Contours of Secular Fear Mongering

If liberal and secularist intellectuals really want to talk about rationalism, intellectualism and freedom of expression, they need to adopt a universal approach.

When was the last time you read or heard in the mainstream media that in many parts of India Hindus are attacked by Muslims with impunity? Do you know that entire villages in West Bengal and Kerala are burned down by Muslim mobs on a routine basis? 

If you think I’m trying to ignite passions by so directly naming different communities without mincing words, do have a look at this article recently published in the New York Times, written by Sonia Falerio, daughter of a former Congress Minister. Neither the newspaper nor the author of this article refrain from naming the aggressive community and the victim community. Here is a glimpse:

These killings should be seen as the canary in the coal mine: Secular voices are being censored and others will follow.

While there have always been episodic attacks on free speech in India, this time feels different. The harassment is front-page news, but the government refuses to acknowledge it. Indeed, Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s silence is being interpreted by many people as tacit approval, given that the attacks have gained momentum since he took office in 2014 and are linked to Hindutva groups whose far-right ideology he shares.

Earlier this month, a leader of the Sri Ram Sene, a Hindu extremist group with a history of violence including raiding pubs and beating women they find inside, ratcheted up the tensions. He warned that writers who insulted Hindu gods were in danger of having their tongues sliced off. For those who don’t support the ultimate goal of these extremists — a Hindu nation — Mr. Modi’s silence is ominous.

But what’s the problem you may ask? In an ideal world there shouldn’t be any problem in a journalist pointing fingers at a particular community for the transgressions against another community. In fact, this should be the job of journalists and writers – to reveal the true face of the society and reveal it in such a manner that it shakes people’s conscience. Nothing wrong in that.

Unfortunately, we don’t live in an ideal world. Just reverse the situation. Let there be a Muslim aggressor (the media will never name the community but use the stock phrase ‘from a particular community’) and a Hindu victim.

Let there be a Christian aggressor and the Hindu victim. Or let there be a transgression in a Muslim-majority country like Bangladesh and the victim be a liberal or a secular. The tone suddenly changes.

avijitThe language becomes soft and hazy. Excuses are made.  Hindu aggression is amplified and Muslim aggression is soft-pedalled by clever play of words. For example, whereas the attacks on rationalists and liberals is an ominous development, in Bangladesh (a Muslim-majority country)…

The murders in India share striking similarities with the killings of four Bangladeshi bloggers this year. But while there was a global outcry over what happened in Bangladesh, India is hiding behind its patina of legitimacy granted by being the world’s largest democracy.

There is a “global outcry” when such attacks happen in Bangladesh, but in India there is a tacit approval. The writer uses the expression “hiding behind its patina of legitimacy granted by being the world’s largest democracy” – it is still to be discovered that who in his or her right mind endorses secularists and rationalists being killed by Hindu extremists and how Indian democracy is to be blamed for the attacks.

The media conveniently sidestepped the news that last May in this very Bangladesh, a 3000-strong mob attacked a village simply because two Hindu boys had allegedly posted something derogatory about Prophet Muhammad.

When Narendra Modi and party were in the fray a class of secularists were screaming from the rooftops that India being a pluralistic, secular country, he will never be able to come to power and in case he came to power, some of them would leave the country.

One of the journalists quoted in the same New York Times article, even declared that he would run naked on the streets of Mumbai if Narendra Modi were to become the PM of India; such is the inveterate hatred they nurture for Narendra Modi.

Well, he became the PM, but none of these secularists left the country or graced the streets of Mumbai with their Full Monty act. It needs courage to carry out what you claim and none of these liberals and secularists actually have the courage to stand by their own words.

The bogey of the Gujarat 2002 riots (in which around 300 Hindus and 700 Muslims died) was used prior to 2014 which, to the great disappointment of these secularists and “pluralists” didn’t yield the desired results.

After the 2014 election results, the Loch-Ness monster of the Gujarat riots keeps raising its head infrequently. But just in case, the phony narrative of the “rising attacks on secularists, rationalists and liberals” are continuously raked up to tell the entire world in what a precarious situation the intellectuals live in the new regime. Whether it’s the Muslims or the liberals and rationalists in the otherwise “extremist” Hindu nation, things are really messy and if this government goes on like this, a big disaster awaits.

So what about the unprovoked and regular attacks on Hindus?  According to this Swarajya article,

It’s not just in Syria or Nigeria that non-Muslim girls are being raped and converted by ISIS and Boko Haram. Nor is it just in Bangladesh or Pakistan that Hindus are living as second class citizens. In village after village, as the population of Muslims is increasing steeply, Hindus are being forced to flee; their lands are being taken over, their homes are being burnt, their festival processions are being attacked, and their women are being raped mercilessly. The stage is set for a second partition of Bengal and in fact, there is already a demand for “Greater Bangladesh”.

You will never find such incidents being talked about in publications like the New York Times or Washington Post. The very same writers and intellectuals who are constantly writing about the attacks on the minorities and the rationalists will never write a word about Hindu victims in India wherever Muslims are in majority.

There was a widespread killing and raping of Hindus in Kashmir in the late 80s and early 90s. Within a span of a few weeks at least 300 Kashmiri Pandits – men women and children – were mercilessly slaughtered. Hindu temples were destroyed. Kashmiri Pandits were forced to become refugees in their own home. They had to flee from the land where their ancestors had been living for at least 5000 years. This is the worst kind of ethnic cleansing in contemporary times but since it happened to the wrong community, it doesn’t generate much interest neither among the intellectuals nor among international human rights organisations.

Will you find any of these secularists writing something about this biggest mass exodus of modern times? No. Google is at your disposal. Go ahead. Try to find at least one article by any mainstream secular, liberal journalist, author or intellectual lamenting the treatment meted out to Kashmiri Pandits.

In Assam, Muslims from the neighbouring Bangladesh are being illegally settled to alter the demography for political gains. Hindu villages are constantly attacked. Hindu women are kidnapped and forcibly married to Muslim men as a matter of routine. The government isn’t bothered. Liberals and secularists look the other way because talking about these incidents doesn’t suit their agenda of constantly keeping the majority Hindu population on the backfoot.

truckJust recently, a Hindu truck driver was lynched and killed by a Muslim mob just because he was passing through a Muslim-dominated area and he blared the horn of his truck. Did you find this incident being discussed in the newspapers? Did any of these secularists decry the increasing intolerance among Muslims and the secular fabric of the country being tarnished? Of course not.

The birthplace of Adi Shankaracharya has been totally converted into a Muslim-majority area in such a manner that Hindus are not even allowed to visit the temple over there and cows are massacred routinely in front of the Sasatha temple. Does secularism come under threat? No.

A Muslim father in UP just killed his 4-year-old daughter because she refused to cover her head. Are you going to come across an article in The New York Times or Washington Post decrying this dastardly act by a father driven by religious derangement? Never.

A Hindu boy was dragged out of his house in Delhi by a drunken Muslim group of boys because he had protested against them creating a ruckus in front of his house. Will you read in your usual newspapers that the drunken boys were Muslims and the victim was a Hindu? No.

You will find these incidents in every community, against every community, by every community. The problem is, in India, only attacks by fringe Hindu groups are amplified. The attacks by Muslims and Christians are brushed aside just as freak incidents not to feel alarmed about.

Besides, according to these journalists, attacks by Muslims and Christians always have a reason and they are mostly a reaction to some present or a century-old Hindu  misdemeanor. The attacks by Hindus on the other hand are totally unprovoked and driven by a virulent majoritarian tendency.

As for attacks on rationalists and secularists, these shouldn’t happen if they are happening. The government must take strict action. No matter what these secularists and rationalists do, we are a proud democracy and in a democracy, everybody has a right to think the way he or she thinks, even if his or her thinking is offensive. The culprits must be brought to book.

Now about this perpetual cry about Muslims constantly being targeted in India for being Muslims. They should go through the numbers before making wild claims.

According to a report by Death Penalty Research Project of the National Law University, Delhi, since 1947, 72 Muslims have been hanged in India compared to 1342 Hindus and others. In West Pakistan, there were 14 per cent  Hindus in 1941 and now they remain just little less than two per cent and according to the Pakistani census data, between 1941 and 1951 there was a drop of a whopping 13 per cent.

Whereas in India, the percentage of Muslim population has increased. Despite committing criminal acts, Muslim film actors have a crazy fan following among a mostly Hindu audience. Muslim areas and ghettos exist in every major city, town and remote village across the country. Non-Muslim people are scared to even enter these areas. The mainstream journalists, writers and intellectuals never express worry about these trends.

If liberal and secularist intellectuals really want to talk about rationalism, intellectualism and freedom of expression, they need to adopt a universal approach. Seek rationalism everywhere. Seek freedom of expression everywhere. Condemn every act of violence whether it is committed by Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs or Christians.

Don’t be selective because then it reeks of hypocrisy and intellectual insincerity. This applies every bit to Sonia Falerio as well.

Amrit Hallan provides professional content writing services. He generally mind his own business, but when he strongly feels about particular issues, he likes to take on the mantle of a journalist and commentator.
  • Hirendra Chatterjee

    Our jhola chhap intellectuals have failed us miserably. In order the wear their so-called secular badge on their lapels, they are willing to condone even the IS and the Al Quaida on the one hand, and indulge in continuous Hindu bashing on the other. In some states the population of Muslims has increased alarmingly. If they are such a persecuted lot, why is their population increasing exponentially? Thanks to the hypocrisy and dangerous brinkmanship of our sold media and bankrupt intellectual class, our country will find it very difficult to avoid another partition. Muslims are already calling the shots in WB, Assam and Kerala, if we leave of Kashmir.

  • Sree Charan R

    Just wondering:
    When people(who also frequently quote: “Vedas-for-beef”, and without genuine research ) speak about Lord Rama eating beef, they “consider it as history”;and use it to justify,or rather distort, their impotent arguments–for if it is myth, then it is of no practical use debating about myths, for they do NOT represent reality and only speak about ‘creative’ impulses.
    But when you speak Lord Rama came from Lanka through a Pushpaka Vimana(an Aircraft), the argument seems to be favoring to say “are you a communal-bigoted-irrational-pseudo scientific-regressive-stone age barbarian-right wing fringe element who consider ‘myth as history’? “Well,how can colonized Indian mentality speak on their own original thoughts?
    Regarding this beefy-beefy things:
    —I am yet to come across a Muslim friend of mine, who eats beef.
    Only in India, beef becomes a national—or rather, an Anti national-secular et al.—issue.
    —In all these ideological debates, NO poster here or anywhere,seem to be seriously,at-least thinking about ”the loss of life-stock concerning our invaluable cows, buffaloes” (for whatever the reasons may be); according to an educated estimation,since the days of independence,India has lost 60% of the whole population of our Vedic cows, and lost FOREVER;otherwise nature shall show her ugly wrath.Who cares(unless and until your Mango-Lassi party gets disturbed!)?
    The *true* pattern of Secularism—as the author delineated– is getting unfolded on a virtually daily basis; false flag attacks are going to become the norm, lest some affirmative action being taken by Modi.

  • Veena Pandian

    A professional content writer who generally minds his own business, unless of course he wake up with a dream to destroy the world.

  • Balakrishnan Hariharan

    I am convinced that the secular media is really the FRINGE in India. SECULAR LIARS

    • Krispy K

      They should not be referred to as “secular” because they are anything but. That is a label they have inappropriately assigned to themselves.

  • NARAYAN RAO

    Absolute garbage.

    All that the author can say is :

    There is no article in the mainstream media about Muslim massacres of Hindus

    So what is the conclusion we are supposed to draw from this ?

    That the mainstream media is biased and in actual fact there are massacres of Hindus by Muslims happening every day !

    If the author is so concerned about these massacres , why is there not a single reference ? Surely , the mainstream media cannot muzzle the growing right wing media ? What prevents the right wing media from highlighting such incidents ?

    • Krispy K

      Left-wing right-wing poison fascist blah blah blah. Change the fucking record you simpleton.

  • Krispy K

    It seems the usual suspects are now attempting to pollute Indiafacts with their inane posts. The modus-operandi (which has been seen extensively in the past, notably on Firstpost and even YouTube) of relying on co-ordinated fake upvotes in a vain attempt to project credibility would suggest a bunch of Kejru-coolies, or commies in general. I think it is part of a larger (futile) attempt to subvert all these new watchdog sites that are making inroads in exposing these bullshitters and their nefarious agenda. They are clearly worrying.

  • Ash Chopra

    The point is Amrit Hallan is nothing but a racist who use partial facts to tell a story simply to stir hatred toward a community for political reasons. There haven’t been a case of villages being burned down in Kerala or West Bengal by Muslims. On the other hand, there has been several cases of instigating communal violence by our Hindu brother-en. Please do not believe these hate mongers. India must march toward a strong future, for that we must uproot the venomous creatures like Amrit Hallan.

    • Veena Pandian

      “The birthplace of Adi Shankaracharya has been totally converted into a Muslim-majority area in such a manner that Hindus are not even allowed to visit the temple over there and cows are massacred routinely in front of the Sasatha temple. Does secularism come under threat? No.” What a crock? Adi Shankaracharya was born in Kaladi, Kerala and the Hindus constitute over 70% there. Shastha temple in Kerala is an example of how Hindus and Muslims live in Harmony. Muslims and Hindus visit the temple, likewise the Hindus visit a nearby Mosque. Get your facts straight! I lived in Kerala all my life and the way you propagate hatred shows your real colour.

      • Nabha Garjana

        i have a malyali “hindu” friend and he say that before going to the krishna Temple i have beef parotha in the morning as breakfast and was mocking other hindu guy for not trying beef . Indeed Hindus and mulims stay in Harmony , as such a hindu is indeed is hindu by name and muslim by deed.

        • Veena Pandian

          Nabha.. Your
          knowledge (or lack thereof) of Hinduism is what I see in most of these
          posts. All you guys have in common is
          hatred towards Muslims. Perhaps you
          should learn our sacred scripts. Beef
          has mentioned in Vedas, as a matter of fact Indra, the King of Devas used to
          eat beef. In ancient India beef was used
          even for Pooja. As I said, learn
          Hinduism and stop spreading the venom!

          • Nabha Garjana

            give me the verses from the veda!. and before you do read through this http://agniveer.com/no-beef-in-vedas/ (as i don’t have time for internet copy and paste) half cooked venom mongering confused ppl like yourself are not that hard to find these days who just latch on something to prove that they are right. ” in fact indra the king of devas used to eat meat ” you must be watching lot or cartoon movies directed to commies. you are the one who is lying blunt faced not me. so stop patronizing yourself. I wonder why weren’t the Hindus who were butchered by Muslims throughout India for not eating beef more like yourself , there wouldn’t have been so much blood shed in the past, maybe they didn’t know that Muslims were more Hindu in food habits than they themselves were.

          • Rajesh Malhothra

            Here you go:

            Rig Veda book 10 Hymn 27 verse 2 “Then will I, when I lead my friends to battle against the radiant persons of godless, prepare for thee at home a vigorous bullock, and pour for thee the fifteen fold strong juices”

            Mahabharata Anushashan Parva chapter 88 narrates the discussion between Dharmaraj Yudhishthira and Pitamah Bhishma about what food one should offer to Piths (ancestors) during the Shraddha (ceremony of dead) , where Bhishma tells him that meat offering is best.

            Manu Smruti, the law book of Hindus:
            In chapter 5 verse 30 “The eater who eats the flesh of those to be eaten does nothing bad! even if he does it day after day; for God himself created some to be eaten and some to be eater”

            The Vedas even go to the extent of describing how the animal should be positioned for sacrifice:
            “6. …Turn the animal’s feet northwards. Make its eyes go to the Sun, dismiss its breath to the wond, its life to the space, its hearing to the directions, its body to the earth…….”. It becomes very creepy after this, and has not been written here.

          • Nabha Garjana

            Here is the verse 10.27.2 from RigVeda . Morons have translated Vrishaba to bull but they dont understad that vedic Sanskrit and classical Sanskrit are two different languages. to be able to translate vedas one has to know the nirukta & nighantu. which obviously max Muller did not ( whom u are quoting). for the like of the people gau is cow where as in the veda it can mean sun rays there are thousand of such examples.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2b1c8a2f315db39d8ba9e94c7decfbe6b41694f5718b9e29aeb06309ccbdb832.jpg

            and as far as Mahabharata is concerned, maybe you did not get it the first time . it is Itihass, not a scripture. even if it has been said , which i cant verify , it is against the Veda and outright a dharma.

            Manu Smiriti is an interpolated text but the interpolated verses can still be found out by a vedic scholar, if you are interested i can refer you the scholar research for the same, as its a 2000 page research .
            i have come across all these baseless allegations some 10 years back and have spend the same amount of time getting the clarifications, so stop wasting your time spreading the internet copy paste.
            see the direct conflict for an example , with the verse u have quoted.
            Anumantaa vishasitaa nihantaa krayavikrayee
            Samskartaa chopahartaa cha khadakashcheti ghaatakaah
            Manusmrithi 5.51

            Those who permit slaying of animals; those who bring animals for slaughter; those who slaughter; those who sell meat; those who purchase meat; those who prepare dish out of it; those who serve that
            meat and those who eat are all murderers.

            now you can say that this verse can be interpolated not the one you have quoted, but that cannot be because the above verse is in sync with the Veda not the other way round. The britishers and Muslims coudnt interpolate the Veda because Veda is not a written text only but is alive in an oral tradition with various path vidhis like gana patha e.t.c so interpolations could be easily found out.

        • Rajesh Malhothra

          I have a question.
          Mahabharata and Ramayana have mentioned that our Gods been for hunting
          many times. What did they do with their carcass? Do you think they
          merely killed those innocent animals for fun? Bhagvan Rama spent
          14 years in the forest, they hunted animals.
          What do you think they used for sustenance?

          • Nabha Garjana

            i have heard this argument a lot many time. and so naive of so called confused Hindus who need to get established in what they believe in from third party sources.
            First of all as there are no Gods in Mahabharata in Ramayana ( unless you believe in the puranic bhakti lineage where bhakta is free to imagine his god and his attributes,that should give you a jolt 🙂 for starters ) Mahabharat and Ramayan both fall in Itihass(history) section of the indic scriptures. the only scriptures of authenticity in is the veda (apurusheya) and “Anything” in contradiction of Veda is to be out rightly rejected in essence.
            Guess you are talking about when Shri Ram went out to catch the swarn mrigh for seeta to take back to Ayodhya before they left when their vanvas was getting over. Now i am not sure why you assume that when the arrow was shot , it was only to kill, when seeta told that she wanted him take it to Ayodhya? do you always shoot a person in the head or sometime in the leg to incapacitate ?
            the issue with hindus is that they are too incapable of critical thought these days, they can only add subtract and divide, otherwise left liberals would not be ruling the roost of the all the elite education and creative institutions.
            just to give you some out of the box thinking, what do monkeys eat for sustenance, ring a bell ?
            secondly Dashrath had 3 wives does that mean Hindus should start marring more than 1 women ? is he called the MaryaPurushottam or Ram ? Hinduism is far beyond a dogma .
            finally ,point is not that people did not eat meat in the times of Mahabharat or Ramayan or before that, but the point is what is the right way to live in balance with nature as ascribed by the vedas. people wan to eat beef but that should not ascribe it to “gods” and get a divine permit to shake the roots of Santana Dharma.

          • Rajesh Malhothra

            “First of all as there are no Gods in Mahabharata in Ramayana”. You really got me there. Are we talking about the same scriptures that millions of Hindus and our ancestors keep close to their hearts? You first need to reexamine yourself. Devotion don’t have toe succumbing to lies and innuendos. We don’t have anything to be ashamed of in our past. Yes, right now I am ashamed of you and so called Hindus whose only ambition in life is to pass hatred.

          • Nabha Garjana

            i have valmiki Ramayana in my home and my kids know (not remember it as some “Story” ) it by heart not a as scripture but as a way of life to be better & Strong humans and to admit , it has not failed me. Hindus have made a joke of themselves by not learning from the Key figures in our culture and terming them as gods and thus invalidating the SUPER human effort that they had put in their lifetimes. “they were gods so they could do it, what am i but just a human” this mindset has caused the biggest damage to a regular Hindu. Revere love Respect Ram and Krishan ,by being like them and keeping them alive in the coming generations. In my view they were greater than any god, as no one has seen God, because they taught rest of us how to LIVE and ACT in relevant times and situations.
            it was only in Later scriptures like bhagvatPuran the attributes of Vishun were associated with Ram and Krishan and then the 11 avatars. there is no need to reexamine myself as i understand Hinduism as it is. , what was there before Ram and krishana ? no Hindus could do bhakti ? I am not ashamed of anything and no Hindu should be whether they believe in Ram and Krishna or any other deva or even nirakar , its their right ! its your insecurity that makes you say so and i am unfazed when you say you are ashamed of likes of me i would not even go to the extent of returning the curtesy as you are just a ill informed so called “hindu” unwilling to learn & know , and dosent do anything about it

      • Nabha Garjana

        and for “Secular” may be beef eating too,Hindus like yourself. http://www.chakranews.com/3-culprits-caught-after-sacred-cow-slaughtered-in-hindu-temple/2046

  • suru

    very nice article.Thanks for high lighting so many points.

  • JayZ

    FACTS

    As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

    United States — Muslim 1.0%
    Australia — Muslim 1.5%
    Canada — Muslim 1.9%
    China — Muslim 1%-2%
    Italy — Muslim 1.5%
    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

    Denmark — Muslim 2%
    Germany — Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom — Muslim 2. 7%
    Spain — Muslim 4%
    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

    They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

    France — Muslim 8%
    Philippines — Muslim 5%
    Sweden — Muslim 5%
    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris — car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam — Mohammed cartoons).

    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    India — Muslim 13.4%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 10-15%

    After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

    At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

    Bosnia — Muslim 40%
    Chad — Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

    From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

    Albania — Muslim 70%
    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan — Muslim 70%

    After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
    Egypt — Muslim 90%
    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
    Iran — Muslim 98%
    Iraq — Muslim 97%
    Jordan — Muslim 92%
    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan — Muslim 97%
    Palestine — Muslim 99%
    Syria — Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of “Dar-es-Salaam” — the Isla mic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
    Somalia — Muslim 100%
    Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

    Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

    “Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, “The Haj”

    It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate

    • Krispy K

      A combination of fear, apathy and this strange culture of one-sided political correctness seems to be forcing heads into the sand about this. It’s why it’s almost certain that places like Europe will eventually be completely Islamised. Given their historical crimes of colonialism, it may be their karmic destiny to be so.

      India’s hope is that our Dharmic soul is far too strong to be eclipsed, even if its people are not willing to fight for it. It’s why we have survived the onslaught for longer than anyone else – truth can never be destroyed. But that should be no excuse for inaction.

      • hello.hello.again

        “intellectually deficient fuckwits.” Now I know you’re American.

        “That should be no excuse for inaction.” Are you going to continue to write (intelligent, perceptive, deftly-worded) commentary/inspiration, or do you intend to do anything other than write? There are people interested in the answer to (the second part) of the question.

    • Satya Jhon

      Keep it up bro,Only good muzzie is dead muzzie

    • NARAYAN RAO

      This is typical illogical reasoning ; the real reason for intolerance in Muslim countries has more to do with select Muslim clerics and the government in power rather than the population percentages.

      For long , Indonesia was a beacon for the religious harmony between several religious groups ; it is only in the last decade that religious intolerance has grown , but even now , the government in power is doing all it can to relieve tensions and re-establish peace and harmony , something that the BJP is not too keen on doing.

      • JayZ

        so its not the tribe its the tribal leaders. Where have we heard this before? Hitler,Stalin,Wilson Churchill all leaders in charge of mass extermination but the clogs in the machinery and the populus had nothing to do with the slaughter.Just like Bush,Cheny.Rumsfeld are responsible for Iraq but not the soldiers hoohaaed by the populus are not responsible for a million dead all for natural resources.Their way of life is killing the planet so no its not them its us.Light a bonfire and lets hold hands and sing folk songs.Wake up the barbarians are amongst us.

        • NARAYAN RAO

          Wake up , because the brain-washed are amongst us.

          • Krispy K

            We know that, you provided proof (as if it were needed) by posting here.

          • JayZ

            No no sepoy the brain dead.Comatose for decades now a swift jolt to the muscle and they running helter skelter.Pathetic.

      • Shubhangi Raykar

        Why blame BJP for the law and order issues in states?In UP samjwadi party, in karnatak Congress partyIn Maharashtra BJP is in power and some people are arrested for Pansare’s death.When dr dabholkar was murdered the Congress was in power in Maharashtra.

        • NARAYAN RAO

          This is very good logic.

          If my wayward son beats up my neighbour , my question to my neighbour would be :

          Why could you not defend yourself ?

          No agency on earth can prevent a murder if the perpetrators are determined ; any administration can at the most apprehend the culprits and ensure they are given their due punishment.

          The BJP is being blamed solely for the culture of intolerance that it is breeding ; it is true that riots and murders and bans all occurred during Congress rule , but it is generally accepted that the Congress while responsible in some way or the other , was never actively fostering a climate of intolerance. If you disbelieve this , you are welcome to do so.

          From the day the BJP assumed power , people like Yogi Adityanath , Sakshi Maharaj and various others have been routinely engaged in stirring up communal trouble with their controversial statements , and we have never had the BJP top brass ever unequivocally condemning such hate speech. Even now , after the Dadri incident , what is Modi’s statement ? That Hindus and Muslims should not fight amongst themselves ! Was the Dadri incident one where Hindus and Muslims fought with each other ? It was a clear case of a Hindu mob lynching an innocent Muslim ; does the PM not have the integrity and the commitment to the nation which he constantly boasts of , to condemn the act , rather than issue the standard platitudes which any of this colleagues could have issued ?

          • Shubhangi Raykar

            My contention is that the Hindus, the Sikhs and others were lynched in similar manner. How could got ignored ? i am totally against aggression by anybody. But why have hindus started feeling the need for “assertion” if not aggression. WHAT HAPPENED WAS CLEARLY TO BE CONDEMNED. But the other incidents also are to be condemned equally vociferously which I never saw happening. I am not a member of BJP. I know what Adityanath etc are doing is not palatable but what Owaisi is doing is equally condemnable.Why not uproar from the rationalists about it? What John Dayal and the American Evangelical mission is trying through in culturation is equally condemnable. We have to raise our voice against that as well THE GREAT RELIGION IS UNDER THREAT AND WE WILL FEEL WORRIED. iNCIDENTALLY, I WAS LOHIAVADI AND A MEMBER OF JANATA PARTY . wORKED FOR THOSE HISTORICAL ELECTIONS OF 1977. bUT WHAT CAME OF IT? i AM INTO RELIGIOUS STUDIES AND DO FEEL THAT SANATAN DHARM IS TO BE PROTECTED. pLURALISM IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF HINDUS ALONE.

          • NARAYAN RAO

            What you say is perfectly valid ; since you talk of having worked politically in 1977 , you can say which of the following is true :

            1. The rise of the BJP is a reaction to the historical oppression of Hindus by the minority appeasement followed by the Congress

            2. The rise of Asaddudin Owaisi is a reaction to the rising aggression of the BJP and its Hindutva brigade and its dominance in the political space of this country

            All violence should be condemned , period.

            Does violence which happened 2000 , 200 or even 20 years back justify any reaction today ?

            For every violent action of the BJP and the fringe elements surrounding it , the justification is always what has happened in the past ; if one has not condemned the Sikh riots , one has no right to condemn the Gujarat riots ; if one did not condemn any lynching of a Hindu , one has no right to condemn the Dadri lynching ; it just goes on and on. Where then will it end ?

            If John Dayal is engaged in nefarious activities , what prevents the Government from taking appropriate action against him ? The counterpoint to Muslim fundamentalism should not be Hindu fundamentalism. Whether we condemn the Muslim fatwa or not , why can we not condemn the Shiv Sena intolerance ? And if the ‘secular’ media does not condemn the Muslim fatwas , what prevents the right-wing media from condemning it ?

          • NARAYAN RAO

            Just one more point to ponder :

            1. Do you know one or more Muslims , acquaintances or friends ?

            2. If we leave the politicians , the hate mongers and rabble-rousers of all dispensations and faiths out of it , speaking solely as Hindus and Muslims , what exactly does a Hindu have against Muslims ? What exactly does a Muslim have against Hindus ?

          • Shubhangi Raykar

            Hindus did not have much against the Muslims and they have been largely the accomodating people. muslims as per the preachings of Islam are supposed to have everything against the Hindus because they are preached to hate the kafirs.IN PRACTICE THEY DO NOT DO IT AS A MINORITY.

          • NARAYAN RAO

            So if Hindus have nothing much against the Muslims , and Muslims too do not have much against Hindus ( whether this is because they really do not have anything against Hindus or it is only because they are in a minority and do not dare to show their hostility towards Hindus does not really matter ) , then who are the agencies who are fomenting this divisiveness ?

            Why are we not naming these agencies each and every time there is an incident between the two communities ?

            Why does everyone want to look at it in terms of the common man i.e. why does it become a Hindu vs. Muslim issue ?

          • Shubhangi Raykar

            Because Hindu bashing is easy and saying anything against Muslims is ‘communal’.

          • Shubhangi Raykar

            We have lost the ability to speak the “truth” We have become only politically correct cowards.

          • NARAYAN RAO

            NO ; there are many sane voices still. Even the lay public like us , who have no axe to grind , have to make our voices heard , to drown out the cacophony of the hate mongers.

            I am proud to say I am a citizen of this world ; I have been born a Hindu , and I will die a Hindu. I will deny the Hindutva brigade speaks for me : I do not believe Muslims will overrun the Hindus one day , and I personally will never take part in a violent act against anyone else , of what ever religion or caste they may be.

            I hope all proud citizens of this wonderful country take this pledge.

  • Ranjith

    “You will find these incidents in every community, against every community, by every community. The problem is, in India, only attacks by fringe Hindu groups are amplified. The attacks by Muslims and Christians are brushed aside just as freak incidents not to feel alarmed about.”

    The above paragraph in the article tells the whole story. With the current strategy being used to defame Hindus, you can defame almost anyone. You can prove Tall are persecuting short, women are persecuting men, men are persecuting children and so on and so forth. Incidents of all sorts happen in a society and if you pick and choose which one to highlight, you can create an opinion against/for one particular community

  • Krispy K

    What is the point of these articles, really? I’m not sure there’s anything here that isn’t already common knowledge. Is the point:

    (1) To educate normal Hindus? Those who have access to this information and are capable/willing to listen are 99% already aware of the hypocrisy and lies of the media and leftists. Those who don’t have access to the internet cannot be informed and those who are not capable or willing to listen won’t be informed. As for the remaining 1% who are still in the dark but can be reached – fine, inform them. What difference will they make?

    (2) To educate Westerners? I’m sure there are a reasonably large proportion that can be reached and are willing to listen. To what end? And why do we STILL care what Westerners think? Our objective should be to firmly knock them off their perch, not pander to their superiority complex. The clear mirroring between the selectivity of Western and Indian media reporting about Indian events further suggests that there is nothing to be gained here.

    (3) To “correct” these liars and hypocrites? To appeal to their sense of truth and persuade them to see sense? Don’t make me laugh. These people can be generally split up into two categories – those who are driven by their agenda, which firmly depends on continuing these lies, and those who are just plain stupid. The former will NEVER change tack – their bigotry is far too deeply ingrained, and their careers and livelihoods utterly dependent on this framework of shameless mendacity. You might as well talk to a brick wall. The latter neither have the mental strength nor intellectual fortitude to walk a different path from that defined by the former, and are incapable of correction. Is there a third category containing (a small minority of) fools who have just been misled but are able to correct themselves? If there is, they should have done so by now. And even if they haven’t done so yet, and they are successfully weaned away, what difference will this small minority make?

    (4) To vent personal frustration? Sure OK, vent away. You might feel better. Then what?

    Understand this. The usual suspects will carry on regardless of what Hindus say or don’t say, do or don’t do. They will continue to hurl the same old inappropriate labels; “fascist”, “extremist”, “intolerant” blah blah blah, without any respect for the meaning of those words and their applicability therein. I daresay they will eagerly keep their ears open for more such epithets churned out by intellectually deficient fuckwits hailing from the likes of JNU and other Marxist shitholes, which they will gleefully add to their collection, ready to be deployed in the next bullshit farticle or news report in the English media.

    And why do we continue to refer to these people as “secular”, “intellectual”, “liberal” etc? These are labels they have arrogantly assigned to themselves. Inappropriately, of course, such is their failure (deliberate or otherwise) of comprehension regarding the meaning, context and history of such words. If we must use them to refer to these frauds, they should at the very least be qualified by quotes or appropriate prefixes such as “fake”. What we shouldn’t do is use them as-is, which merely reinforces their acts of fake self-aggrandisement, in the process inverting their very meanings.

    Indisputably I think, debate can only take place between parties who are: (1) honest; (2) genuinely in pursuit of truth; (3) intellectually capable of doing so. The people who have been waging, and continue to wage, war against Hindus (and make no mistake, a war is what it is) *do not* qualify in any of these areas. This is just a simple reality. Unless someone can add an item to the above list which cannot be dismissed, talking will achieve nothing. And when talking achieves nothing with a relentless, merciless foe, and one is not willing to simply lay down and die, the ultimate consequence is inevitable.

    • Bihari

      You are right that these are well known issues. The idea is simply to have our own voice.

      • Krispy K

        Well our voice is being heard. The problem is that apart from us, nobody is listening. Which is why it may be time for our boots to be felt.

    • NARAYAN RAO

      You are so full of venom , it is frightening.

      • Krispy K

        Yeah whatever fuckwad. Oh the audacity of Hindus to DARE to stand up for themselves. Why don’t they just bloody die?

        By all means counter the points therein. But we both know you cannot do that without lying through your teeth. No change there then.

        But your reference to “venom” does highlight how the truth is poisonous to nasty little cockroaches like you. Won’t be long before you drown in it.

        • NARAYAN RAO

          What was a suspicion earlier has been confirmed. Thank you.

          • Krispy K

            Nobody gives a flying fuck about your delusions, fuckwad. You need to let go of this notion you have that your opinions are somehow relevant. They are less relevant than the dried dogshit on my boot. The job now is to firmly neutralise your leech-like attachment to the public discourse in this country once and for all.

            Now, fuck off back under your rock.

          • NARAYAN RAO

            It is good to know that you spend most of your time walking , in your words , in dog shit.

            How did it dry ?

            Pathetic.

          • Krispy K

            I routinely step in the food of braindead self-styled “left-wing” fuckwits with more toes than braincells.

            P.S. If you want to see pathetic, look around in your next lecture at JNU/alternative madrassa.

  • Ananth Sethuraman

    A timely reminder that atrocities are inflicted upon Hindus as well, and inflicted on a continual basis.

    There is an urgent need to grow the careers of Muslim intellectuals who will speak in their own voices. Then we could actually talk about building a mult-religious society, population control, integration of Kashmir into India.

    Non-Muslim intellectuals ( Faleiro in the current instance ) who speak on behalf of Muslims implicitly take the attitude that Muslims are under no pressure to build a multi-religious society, under no pressure to work on population control, under no pressure to integrate Kashmir into India.