Generic Church’s Plan for India

Within months after assuming charge as Prime Minister, Narendra Modi’s government signalled its intent towards

They tried every trick, they unleashed all weapons overt and covert, but could not stop Narendra Modi from becoming Prime Minister.

Modi did not just become Prime Minister. His persona gave the BJP a commanding majority in the 2014 Lok Sabha elections, which for the first time since Rajiv Gandhi rode on the crest of Indira Gandhi’s assassination, ended the era of coalition politics and the menace of coalition blackmail.

Most importantly, Modi dealt Sonia Gandhi and the Generic Church which manoeuvred her into the house of India’s Prime Minister, a near mortal blow. Indira Gandhi first became Prime Minister in 1966;Sonia Gandhi married Rajiv Gandhi in 1968 and entered the Prime Minister’s household.

The ascent of Narendra Modi and his larger-than-life magnetic appeal sat the Generic Church in the corner with a dunce cap on its head.

But first, a clear definition of ‘Generic Church’ is in order.

Generic Church stands for all White churches of all denominations located in White Christian countries of North and South America, Europe and Australia, their pan-national and international instruments of war-by-other-means like the United Nations, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, IMF, World Bank, global Christian funding agencies and mega NGOs like World Vision International, Red Cross, Action Aid, Greenpeace International, Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, DFID, Oxfam and Cordaid among several others doing human rights, women’s rights, Dalit rights, big dams, climate change, anti-nuclear power, anti-fossil fuels,and all such activism, which involves muscle flexing and arm-twisting to wrestle non-Christian national governments to the ground.

The Generic Church is a predator which feeds upon non-white and non-Christian nations and peoples while brown, black and other coloured churches are its fawning agent-lackeys.

Secularism is Christianity in Disguise

The Second Vatican Council through the pontifical document Ad Gentes declared,

The pilgrim Church is missionary by her very nature…the Church, being the salt of the earth and the light of the world (cf. Matt. 5:13-14), is more urgently called upon to save and renew every creature, that all things may be restored in Christ and all men may constitute one family in Him and one people of God.’

Secularism is Christian and only Christian. It is not religion neutral or non-religious or equal respect for all religions as it is made out to be by deracinated Hindus, Indian Muslims, Christians and theLeft-liberal-secular brigade. It is a clear partitioning of the Territory of Christian Empire between the Church and the Christian king and demarcation of their respective areas of jurisdiction and authority.

Whatever queer creature it may be in India, secularism as was first conceived and formalised, was a latter day all-Christian power-sharing instrument. Under secularism, the Church and the State were separated but they were both Christian and both committed to furthering Christianity – the Church through religion and the King or State through politics: United Nations, IMF, Ford Foundation, Greenpeace International et al.

The Generic Church is therefore the sum total and consolidation of all instruments and all weapons old and new crafted by the White Christian State and White Church to establish the Kingdom of God on Earth or ‘restore all things in Christ’, as stated by Decree Ad Gentes.

st.austinSt. Augustine(or Saint Austin: 354-430 AD)more than 1600 years ago, in The City of God, Book XIX, Chapter 17, explored the ideal relationship between the ‘earthly city’ and ‘city of God’; this is the same as kingdoms established by Christian kings and the kingdom of God on Earth. St. Augustine held that it was the sacred duty of the earthly city to create the conditions to establish the city of God on earth.

Nature of the Generic Church

The Generic Church is missionary by nature.This superstructure has been raised not out of compassion and desire for the well-being of the world but to bring the entire world under the Christian heel. And until the Kingdom of God is established on earth, Green Card, Permanent Residence, American and EU visas and citizenship, Walmart and Macy’s will give us all glimpses of White Christian paradise.In this paradise, coloured Christians will be second class inhabitants with fewer privileges after all non-Christians have been burnt in Dante’s inferno.

The Generic Church has a single-point foreign policy agenda: every corner of the globe must be placed directly or indirectly under its control. This agenda is no different from the foreign policy agenda of Islam.For both Abrahamic cults, subjugating the world in the name of Jesus and Mohammed has remained unchanged since inception.

While Islam deploys only Jihad as weapon of foreign policy, the Generic Church has invented other, more successful weapons of war. Mega and Meta NGOs funding and supporting domestic NGOs, politically motivated social cause activists, and news media channels in every country where they have a foreign policy strategic intent, constitute the mercenary armies which goad, instigate and foment violent domestic unrest, at the very minimum to influence government policy and at the maximum leading to regime change.

Foreign-funded NGOs and 24×7 media channels are the latest weapons in the Generic Church’s armoury against Hindu India.The enraged, near-hysterical, personalised and focused attack by Indian English news channels (with sporadic support from the New York Times and Guardian) against Narendra Modi is only because he’s seen to be Hindu India’s most powerful political force since independence.

The Vigil book on foreign funded NGOs and activists, triggered by US denial of visa to Narendra Modi nine years ago, exposed little known connections and networks of NGOs, activists, foreign funding agencies, American think-tanks and their domestic agents operating in the country.

Hindu Inability vis a vis Abrahamic Cults

This essay exposes how anti-Modi obsessions continue to create new entities within the Generic Church and how similar connections and networks have been established.In the process,it also exposes the congenital Hindu inability to deal ruthlessly with the Abrahamic cults.

This inability is recent in the nation’s history and was injected into Hindu blood by Gandhi when Imperial London manoeuvred his return from South Africa and catapulted him as the leader of the INC after removing Tilak, Savarkar and Aurobindo with brute force from the political arena.

The Generic Church and Islam may be at each other’s throats in the rest of the world but in India they are symbiotic anti-Hindu partners with a joint agenda:to keep Hindus in a never-ending state of political disempowerment using the peculiar Indian variant of secularism as instrument and now to bring down Modi with a crash.

gandhiIt however needs to be mentioned that Narendra Modi himself has a selective view of both Gandhi and Islam. Modi thus far, after becoming Prime Minister has made several adulatory references to Gandhi ignoring two critical facts of Gandhi’s life: Gandhi, by transforming the Indian National Congress from a Hindu political vehicle into a secular social reformist instrument, took away from Hindus what the Muslims had – a political party to serve their interests.

The Hindu nation was vivisected because the Indian National Congress did not serve Hindu interests, did not protect Hindus and the Hindu nation. Second, Modi also chooses to ignore Gandhi’s perverse experiments in brahmacharya which destroyed the lives of several women. Modi expressed a similarly flawed and inaccurate picture of Islam in India when he said, ‘The Islamic heritage of both India and Central Asia is defined by the highest ideals of Islam – knowledge, piety, compassion and welfare. This is a heritage founded on the principle of love and devotion.’

Just as Modi chooses to turn a blind eye to Gandhi’s questionable actions and decisions, he also chose to turn a blind eye to the jihad in India against Hindus, Hindu temples and the Hindu nation. Gandhi and Islamic heritage being Modi’s blindspots, all is not lost for the Generic Church in Modi’s India. It is a very real possibility that the Generic Church can and will use Modi’s Achilles Heel to its advantage.

Gujarat Riots Cottage Industry Nexus

This Christian-Muslim unnatural partnership was first noticed immediately after the 2002 Gujarat Riots during the First National Convention of the Indian Muslim Council (IMC-USA) in 2003, in Santa Clara, America.

Invitees to the convention included Smitha Narula of Human Rights Watch, Govind Acharya of Amnesty International, Indian origin ChristiansRev.JaswantSingha, John Prabhudoss, Father Cedric Prakash, and Jameel William Aalim- Johnson (an African-American Christian convert to Islam, a two-in-one entity),who was Chief of Staff of Congressman Gregory Meeks.

Indian Christians,Indian-American Muslims, deracinated PIOs, American Khalistanis and a Christian-Muslim Chief of Staff of an American White Christian politician – this symptomatic partnership is still alive and kicking (page 353 of the linked PDF).

Again, this anti-Hindu Christian-Muslim partnership was seen in the list of signatories who protested against the then Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh for expressing his stern disapproval of the United States refusing to give Narendra Modi a visa he never asked for.

First on the list of signatories in the protest letter was actor Aamir Khan followed by Allwyn D’Silva, Amal Charles and Amar Farooqui (http://www.vigilonline.com/dynamic_includes/downloads/NGOs_Activists_and_Foreign_Funds.pdf, Page 327).

Political empowerment of Hindus and political empowerment of the Abrahamic cults is a zero sum game.Removing Narendra Modi in disgrace from the political front is therefore a pressing emergency because only this will end the political empowerment of Hindus achieved by Modi after one hundred years of Gandhi’s emasculation of Hindu society. There is no BJP without Modi and no Hindu political empowerment however minimal, without the BJP. Hindu nationalists, Islam and the Generic Church know this well.

NGOs as Nation-Breakers

Within months after assuming charge as Prime Minister, Narendra Modi’s government signalled its intent towards foreign funded NGOs when the Intelligence Bureau (IB) submitted a hitherto classified document to the PMO listing foreign funded NGOs stalling all development work in the country.

gpNot surprisingly, Narendra Modi who had made economic development and progress the central theme of his election campaign, moved swiftly and the Home Ministry put Greenpeace India under the scanner.

‘A significant number of Indian NGOs (funded by some donors based in the US, the UK, Germany, The Netherlands and Scandinavian countries) have been noticed to be using people centric issues to create an environment which lends itself to stalling development projects,’ says the IB report marked to the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO).

The report says that while caste discrimination, human rights and big dams were earlier chosen by international organisations to discredit India at global forums, the recent shift in the choice of issues was to encourage ‘growth-retarding campaigns’ focused on extractive industries, genetically-modified organisms and foods, climate change and anti-nuclear issues. According to the report, the funding for such campaigns came from foreign donors under charitable garb for issues ranging from protection of human rights, violence against women, caste discrimination, religious freedom etc or to provide a ‘just deal’ to the project-affected displaced persons or for protection of livelihood of indigenous people.

The NGOs become the central players in setting the agenda, drafting documents, writing in the media, highlighting scholars-turned-activists and lobbying diplomats and government, it says. ‘These foreign donors lead local NGOs to provide field reports which are used to build a record against India and serve as tools for the strategic foreign policy interests of the Western government,’ adds the report.’

Acting upon the report, Modi instructed the Reserve Bank of India to seek prior permission of the Home Ministry before permitting Greenpeace India to receive foreign funds. Bringing Greenpeace India under the Home Ministry radar was the first step in what would soon become Modi Sarkar’s determined move to reign in and tame not just foreign funded NGOs but also their overseas masters which as in the case of Oxfam and DFID included foreign governments.

In April 2015, the Home Ministry suspended Greenpeace India’s registration under FCRA thus disabling Greenpeace India from receiving any foreign funds.

Amnesty International as a Tool of Generic Church

As was expected, Amnesty International India and the United Nations howled in protest. Placing stringent curbs on NGOs receiving foreign funds was to akin to cutting off oxygen supply and the Generic Church knew the implications.

Reacting to Modi Sarkar’s crackdown on Greenpeace India and Ford Foundation operations in the country, Amnesty International India made a submission to the Ministry of Home Affairs on the Draft Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Amendment Rules, 2015.

Typical of Generic Church modus operandi when challenged by governments, as in the case of Tamil Nadu anti-conversion Law which the state passed in October 2002, all anti-Hindu forces cried wolf. This time too, Amnesty International India made out Modi Sarkar’s crackdown against foreign funded NGOs with political objectives also to be about denial of sundry freedoms. The United Nations jumped into the fray too.

The ability to access foreign funding is an integral part of the right to freedom of association. Amnesty International India is deeply concerned that the draft amendments, if passed into law in their current form, would further lead to violations of India’s obligations under international and national law to safeguard the rights to freedom of association and expression.

The amendments, if passed into law and implemented, would further jeopardize the activities of several non-governmental organisations working to advance the civil, cultural, economic, political and social rights guaranteed by the Constitution of India and international law.

The UN Special Rapporteur on the rights to freedom of peaceful assembly and association has also noted that ‘legislation limiting foreign funding to registered associations only…violate international human rights norms and standards pertaining to freedom of association’. He has stated that ‘the obligation for associations to…report on all funds received from foreign sources and how these are allocated or used… [or] or to obtain authorization from the authorities to receive or use funds… all constitute human rights violations.’

According to the United Nations, when democratically elected national governments like the Indian government, passes a law in national interest making it obligatory for NGOs to report to the Ministry of Home Affairs not only all foreign money and the names of foreign sources sending the money but also to submit audited accounts of how the money was spent, it constitutes human rights violations.

It goes to the credit of the Generic Church that it employs persons to make everything that challenges their unhindered right to Christianize the world, to be about fundamental freedoms and human rights.

The next to incur Modi’s wrath was the ubiquitous Ford Foundation. In the interim between cracking down on Greenpeace India and Ford Foundation, Modi Sarkar submitted a list of 42,273 NGOs to Financial Intelligence Unit (FIU) ‘to check suspicious foreign funding amid the crackdown on some top international donors for flouting the law of the land. These 42,273 NGOs were put under watch after intelligence reports claimed that several charity organisations are diverting funds for purposes other than the permitted use of foreign contribution.’

While Tehelka and EPW[i]reacted sharply to the IB report, Amnesty International India issued a strongly worded statement condemning Modi Sarkar’s action against Greenpeace India. And it was Amnesty International India’s reaction which made me sit up to take a fresh look at the connectedness and networks among the various components of the Generic Church. This time my focus is on Amnesty International and Amnesty International India.

‘It is clear that Greenpeace is being targeted because its strong views and campaigns question the government’s development policies,’ said G.Ananthapadmanabhan, Executive Director at Amnesty International India.

‘The extreme measures taken by the government to disable an organisation for promoting the voices of some of the country’s most powerless people will damage and shame India. Intolerance to dissent will only weaken our society.’

Ananthapadmanabhan, who issued this statement against the Indian government and in defence of Greenpeace India in his capacity as Executive Director, Amnesty International India, was formerly Executive Director, Greenpeace India.

Ananth moved from Greenpeace to Amnesty International, from environment to human rights without any change in his role. Human rights, Dalit rights, environment, tribal rights, anti-dam, anti-coalmines, anti-police and anti-army activism are all overlapping theatres of war against Modi Sarkar. You don’t need a change of costume and you don’t need a false beard when you go theatre-hopping within the Generic Church.

Aakar PatelIn June 2015, journalist Aakar Patel joined Amnesty International as yet another made-in-India anti-Modi round of ammunition. Aakar Patel was undoubtedly handpicked for the job as reward for his report on the Gujarat riots, ‘Rights and Wrongs’. Being anti-Modi was not simply fashionable but immensely profitable.

‘We are delighted that Aakar Patel will be joining us. Amnesty International India is one of the movement’s three national offices, set up to increase our impact in countries with growing global influence which continue to face human rights challenges. Aakar’s commitment to human rights in his journalism and writing positions him perfectly to take on this important role,’ said Minar Pimple, Senior Director of Global Operations at Amnesty International’.

I will get to Minar Pimple in just a while. Before detailing how anti-Modi activists hop from one component of the Generic Church to another, readers should bear this in mind: The Generic Church promotes individuals to leadership positions in its organizations from nations where White Church and White America and Europe have an immediate geo-political objective.The most striking examples are the theatres of Vatican, South Korea and United Nations.

A New Unipolar World Order Manned by the Generic Church

Polish national Karol Wojtyla was made Pope only because Roman Catholic Poland was soon going to be used as the weakest link to break the Soviet Union like so many pieces in a jigsaw with Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and the entire Soviet Bloc disintegrating soon after. The Generic Church’s anger against the Soviet Union was as much about communism as it was about the independent Orthodox Church. The real objective was to design a unipolar new world order.

South Korea had 0.5 per cent Christian population in 1900. In 2000, the Christian population stood at 40 per cent. In 2010, South Korea’s Christian population has allegedly dropped to 33 per cent while there is a corresponding increase in Buddhist population not only in South Korea but also in China and Japan.

Ban Ki Moon, the Secretary-General of the United Nations isSouth Korean and like Karol Wojtyla, he was elevated by the Generic Church to the highest position inthe United Nations perhaps for two reasons: the sharp decline in the population percentage of Christians in South Korea and Ban Ki Moon’s elevation may hopefully create the space and the means to correct the loss, and two, he is a passionate supporter of ‘Right to Protect’ or R2P which is new UN pious bunkum for ‘Humanitarian Intervention’ which is American pious bunkum for invading and occupying foreign nations in America’s oil and other interests.

A quick look at persons who have been gainfully employed by Amnesty International in their headquarters, in Amnesty International USA and in Amnesty India drives home the central point of this essay: why are certain kinds of persons elevated by the Generic Church and in which countries?

Amnesty International’s International Board

‘The International Board consists of nine people, each of whom is a member of Amnesty International. They are elected to office by the biennial International Council Meeting (ICM).The International Board members’ four-year terms are staggered, with half the members up for re-election at each ICM. Each member is eligible for re-election for a maximum of two consecutive terms.

The International Board also appoints and directs Amnesty International’s Secretary General who, in turn, is responsible for the day-to-day conduct of the international movement, acting as the movement’s chief spokesperson, its chief political advisor and as the chief executive officer of the International Secretariat.’

Let us take a look at who is sitting where, why and also theatre-hopping with no change in roles:

Carolyn Hardy: From United Nations to UNICEF to Amnesty International

‘Carolyn Hardy was appointed as a co-opted member of the Amnesty International Board in March 2014. She is an Australian national with twenty years experience in marketing, communications and advocacy, resource mobilisation, partnership development and governance. Carolyn has worked for the United Nations for the past ten years as a passionate advocate for women’s and children’s rights. Most recently as Head of Private Sector Relations at UN Women in New York where her role encompassed management and oversight of UN Women’s outreach to and relationships with the Private Sector globally and guidance and support for UN Women’s country offices and National Committees. Previously she served as Deputy Director of UNICEF’s Private Fundraising and Partnerships Division in Geneva; and as Chief Executive of the Australian National Committee for UNICEF in Sydney.’

Mwikali Nzioka Muthiani: From ActionAid Kenya to Amnesty International.

‘Mwikali has vast experience in the NGO sector where she worked before joining the private sector and has been involved in NGO Boards in the past 7 years, including serving as a Board member of Action Aid Kenya, Chair of the HR & OD Committee and co-opted member of the HR Committee of the International Board of Trustees from 2006-2009. She currently serves as a Board Member of AMREF International, and chairs the HR Committee (since 2006); and is also a Board Member of Faulu Kenya, a Deposit taking Micro Finance Institute licensed by the Central Bank of Kenya, and Chair of the Executive Committee (since 2009).’

Paul Divakar Namala: Indian anti-Modi Christian

Paul Divakar was selected by Amnesty International to the International Board not only because he is a Christian but also for his anti-Modi credentials. He signed the protest petition against PM Manmohan Singh for defending Narendra Modi.

His signature may be seen at # 133 on the list. He was member of the Steering Committee in 2007 and in 2011 for both the 11th and 12th Plans. He was also member of the National Monitoring Committee for the Welfare of the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes of the Ministry of Human Resource Development and a member of the Working Group on Dalits in Sonia Gandhi’s extra-constitutional National Advisory Council. Paul was elected to the International Board of Amnesty International at the 2013 ICM.

‘Soon after completing his postgraduate course in development studies, Paul began working in the development sector in the USA, Somalia and in Indonesia. Along with his wife, Annie Namala, he has been working for the empowerment of Dalits and Adivasis since 1982.

Paul Divakar Namala is one of the founding members of the National Campaign on Dalit Human Rights (NCDHR). NCDHR is a forum, founded by Paul and other activists in 1998, which is committed to the elimination of discrimination based on caste, and is a democratic secular platform led by Dalit women and men activists, and supported by movements and organizations, academics, individuals, people’s organizations and institutions throughout India. Paul is currently the General Secretary of Dalit Arthik Adhikar Andolan (DAAA) which is a wing of the National Campaign on Dalit Human Rights.

Paul has also been instrumental in creating various campaigns and organizations; one such organization, Sakshi Human Rights Watch in Hyderabad, was responsible for strengthening the criminal justice administration systems focusing on access to justice for Dalits and Adivasis.’

Secretary-General and International Secretariat of Amnesty International

The International Secretariat of Amnesty International is led by a team of Senior Directors headed by the Secretary General. The Senior Directors work closely with the directors and deputy directors of the IS’ programmes (departments) and together they provide strategic direction, operational management and direct support to the secretariat’s staff and volunteers. They also work closely with the directors of Amnesty International’s local chapters.’

Salil Shetty:

Secretary-General, Amnesty International. From Chief Executive of ActionAid, to Director, United Nations Millennium Campaign to Secretary-General, Amnesty International, Salil Shetty best exemplifies the who and why of persons handpicked by the Generic Church for leadership positions.

Salil Shetty is the son of Hema B Rajasekhar and VT Rajasekhar, Founder of Dalit Voice. Dalit atrocity literature is a flourishing industry and has a huge international market. Salil Shetty and his family have profiteered from this industry. HemaRajasekhar did her bit to further her son’s career prospects when she signed the anti-Modi protest letter to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Her signature may be viewed at number 69 on the list.

‘In 1986 Rajshekar’s passport was confiscated because of anti-Hinduism writings outside of India’. The same year, he was arrested in Bangalore under India’s Terrorism and Anti-Disruptive Activities Act. Rajshekar told Human Rights Watch this arrest was for an editorial he had written in Dalit Voice, that another writer who republished the editorial was also arrested, and that he was eventually released with an apology. Rajshekar has also been arrested under the Sedition Act and under the Indian Penal Code for creating disaffection between communities.’(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._T._Rajshekar

Salil Shetty was thus Amnesty International’s perfect choice to become its Secretary-General. His grandfather PS Thimappa Shetty was Collector of South Kanara District. Salil Shetty himself went to IIM Ahmedabad and then to London School of Economics. There is power and there are privileges attached to well-healed and well-educated poverty, deprivation and atrocity literature activism.

amnestyGeneric Church theatre-hopping Senior Directors working with the Secretary-General, Amnesty International

Colm Ó Cuanacháin

From Head of Campaigns Action Aid International to Senior Director of the Office of the Secretary General at Amnesty International.

George Macfarlane

From Greenpeace International to Oxfam to Amnesty International.

George Macfarlane is Senior Director for Organizational Services at Amnesty International. He oversees various teams including Finance, Facilities, Legal and IT for the International Secretariat and is responsible for movement-wide accountability.He is a qualified chartered accountant with 17 years senior management experience in the international NGO sector. He has lived, studied and/or worked in Denmark, The Netherlands, Ireland, Belgium and the UK over the past 21 years. Most recently, he worked with Oxfam International as Operations Director. Prior to that, he was with Greenpeace International for nine years, latterly as Organisational Director.’

Julie Verhaar

From Netherlands Red Cross to Greenpeace International to UNICEF to Amnesty International.

‘Julie Verhaar is Senior Director of Fundraising & Growth at Amnesty International. She is responsible for leading Amnesty International’s fundraising efforts to achieve ambitious goals for growth in income and membership.

Julie has more than a decade’s experience leading fundraising efforts for major organizations, including the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) – where she was Chief of Fundraising Services and acting Deputy Director for Private Sector Fundraising – as well as Greenpeace International and The Netherlands Red Cross.’

Minar Pimple

Readers are asked to pay great attention to the profile of the Generic Church’s Indian blue-eyed boy.

oxfamFrom Oxfam International to Oxfam India to Habitat International Coalition to Executive Director of Decade of Human Rights (PHDRE), New York, Regional Director, United Nations Millennium Campaign to Amnesty International.

‘Minar Pimple is the Senior Director of Global Operations at Amnesty International. He is responsible for overseeing the operations and impact of the International Secretariat’s regional offices which are being opened around the world from 2013, creating a global presence for the organization.

Minar oversees the operations of these new offices where Amnesty International’s research, campaigning, communications and development activities are managed by teams based from within the region.

Prior to joining Amnesty International, Minar was the Regional Director of the United Nations Millennium Campaign where he led the Campaign’s Asia-Pacific operations and advocacy. He has also held roles as Executive Director of Decade of Human Rights Inc. (PHDRE) in New York, USA, and as Chief Executive Officer of ‘Youth for Unity and Voluntary Action’ (YUVA), a civil society organization that promotes human rights and sustainable development for urban and rural poor in India. Minar has played various global board roles with Habitat International Coalition, Oxfam International where he was the Founder Chair of Oxfam India.’

Tawanda Mutasah

Zimbabwean national. The Generic Church has immediate geopolitical objectives in Sudan and Zimbabwe. In Zimbabwe, President Robert Mugabe has thus far, like Narendra Modi, stood firm against the Generic Church’s unrelenting and focussed war to unseat him.

Mugabe is on the same list of the Generic Church as Suharto, Indira Gandhi and Saddam Hussein – nationalist leaders who stood up to America’s bullying ways.

Tawanda Mutasah like Egypt’s Mohammed Al-Baradei and Iraq’s Ahmed Chhalabi is a creature of the Generic Church’s making: all set to be paratrooped into his country’s politics after Mugabe.

Narendra Modi is the latest member to be placed on the hit list of the Generic Church.

‘TawandaMutasah is Senior Director of Law & Policy at Amnesty International. He is responsible for leading the formulation of the movement’s human rights policies, legal positions and litigation strategies.Tawanda has 20 years of leadership experience in human rights, governance, rule of law and humanitarian work. His previous roles include Executive Director for Open Society Initiative for Southern Africa; Coordinator of Policy, Advocacy, Communications for Southern Africa for Oxfam GB; and the principal founder of a broad-based national Coalition for Constitutional Reform in Zimbabwe.He has served as the governor of the Coalition for Dialogue on Africa; led the organization of a Brazil-Africa project encouraging the sharing of human rights lawyering skills among young Lusophone lawyers; and helped found the Southern Africa Litigation Center.

Tawanda received his legal training from Harvard Law School, New York University Law School, and the University of Zimbabwe. He holds a Master of Management degree from the University of the Witwatersrand. He received the International Bar Association’s ‘International Rule of Law Award’ in 2004.’

Thomas Shultz-Jagow

From Greenpeace Germany to Greenpeace International to World Wildlife Fund (WWF) International to WWF Germany to Oxfam to Amnesty International.

‘Thomas Schultz-Jagow is the Senior Director of Campaigns and Communications at Amnesty International. He leads on an integrated strategy for the movement’s global campaigns and communications including responsibilities for editorial, media and digital communications. Thomas is a key spokesperson on campaigns and the Amnesty International movement.

He previously worked at Oxfam GB, where he held the roles of Director of Campaigns and Director of Communications. Prior to Oxfam, Thomas was Director of Communications at the International Secretariat of WWF (World Wildlife Fund) and held senior campaigns and communications roles at WWF Germany, Greenpeace International and Greenpeace Germany. He holds degrees in Political Science and History.’

Amnesty International-India’s Useful Idiots

Amnesty International hit national and international headlines when one Christine Mehta, a PIO with an American passport was invited by Amnesty International India to ‘come live with me and be my love.’ On the side, she was also to write a report on AFSPA in Jammu and Kashmir and contribute to atrocity literature of human rights violations against Muslims of Kashmir by Indian Armed Forces.

Readers should know that Amnesty International did not have an India office until 2012 when Sonia Gandhi, dancing to the tune of the Generic Church, allowed Amnesty International to open shop in Bengaluru.

The Generic Church has Greenpeace International-Greenpeace India, World Vision International-World Vision India, and now, Amnesty International-Amnesty International India. This is to prepare the ground in the immediate for regime change, and in the long term, to establish the Kingdom of God on Earth.

It would be great service to the Hindu nation if IndiaFacts were to dig out how many such International-India creatures of the Generic Church operate in India.

Christine Mehta claims she has been living in India with a valid visa as researcher for Amnesty International although it is doubtful if she stated what exactly she was going to research when she applied for her visa.

Divya Iyer is now Research Manager for Amnesty International, India.Divya Iyer’s theatre-hopping in the Generic Church included stints in NDTV, AajTak and CNN-IBN. It is not difficult to imagine why media channels are baying for Narendra Modi’s blood using Christine Mehta as excuse. Not one news anchor thought it fit to mention that India deported an American citizen for violating Indian laws without strip searching or cavity searching the woman.

V K SinghThe Generic Church is using India’s news channels to gun for Modi who has proved he is invincible.That is why Gen. V K Singh’s presstitutes have made Lalit Modi cannon fodder to target SushmaSwaraj and VasundharaRaje.

They are now using Vyapam to dislodge Shivraj Singh Chouhan. The Generic Church knows it cannot go for Modi’s jugular. It is hoping to dismember Modi Sarkar organ by organ and bleed Modi Sarkar to death.

Narendra Modi and Modi Sarkar must stand firm. This war against Modi was never about corruption or impropriety or anything else. This is a millennial war against the Hindu nation of which Narendra Modi is the most powerful symbol. Corruption or no corruption, the Generic Church will not succeed. It has to continue to sit in the corner with the dunce cap on its head.

Not that the Generic Church will not keep trying to push its agendain India.

Rockefeller Foundation Enters India

Rockefeller Foundation, even as Modi Sarkar has turned the heat on Greenpeace and Ford Foundation, has managed to enter India under the eyes of Modi Sarkar and with full support of some state governments in the guise of building 100 Resilient Cities around the world. Readers will not be surprised to know that three cities in India have been chosen for this high honour – Bengaluru, Chennai and Surat.

Bengaluru is already the national headquarters of Amnesty International India.Now,Bengaluru will have to contend with two of the most powerful components of the Generic Church on its soil.

Surat was chosen not just because of the plague but also because it is in Narendra Modi’s state.

As for Chennai, Jayalalithaa had allowed World Vision International-India to run amok in the state after the tsunami and today,Tamil Nadu is the largest recipient of foreign funds and Chennai, the largest recipient in Tamil Nadu.

Rockefeller Foundation being allowed by state governments and Modi Sarkar to enter our country with a long term agenda is ominous because of the Generic Church’s potential for serious political activism and disruption.

Tailpiece

Ministry of Home Affairs and India’s National Security Adviser must be warned that Amnesty International India is penetrating schools in Bengaluru to poison the minds of children with ideas for possible future political activism. I coined the name Generic Church in 2007 when I was researching on how East Timor became a Christian State and the role played by America, Europe and the Vatican.

Chad M Bauman, who writes extensively on Christianity in India bemoans that I do not make the critical distinctions among Christian denominations.

One might wish for less denigratory tone but the unworkability of church-as-multinational analogy is that which stands out as most unhelpful, analytically. Simply put, talk of ‘Generic Church’ as some ‘intellectual kshatriyas’ are wont to do (Radha Rajan for one, although not Rajiv Malhotra as such) fails to fathom what it means polity-wise what it means to be say Baptist, or even Roman Catholic, ecclesiologically, institutionally or even organisationally, not to mention proudly self-financed mainline denominations as the Churches of South and North India (inter alia).

This is not an academic exercise. This is war and in times of war we not only know the enemy but we must see the enemy as a monolith. We look at the components part by part only if our intent is to dismember the enemy organ by organ.

NOTES:

[i]http://www.tehelka.com/ngo-invisible-strings/

iihttp://www.epw.in/commentary/intelligence-bureau-and-its-not-very-intelligent-report-ngos.html

radha@jjamm.net'
Radha Rajan is a Chennai-based political analyst. She is also author and animal activist.
  • Arathi Vb

    Very thought provoking and informative article this ! Yes, the semitic faiths continue their colonialistic agenda as always, but only in different garbs. They are only trying to be more naive and smart now. Thanks for the great article. If some people cannot digest this article, it is because they cant dare face terrible truths, or some other vested interests are afraid because the article throws light upon many dark corners of their dirty working styles and cruel tricks.

  • Tom Joseph

    Wildest of imagination by the author and a concoction of WHITE LIES……

    RSS and its ideologists are working hard to establish these lies as truth, only to divide this great country. By giving such fictitious articles, they want the peace loving secular Hindus to take arms against the minority Christians and Muslims. Have they not already declared the same regarding Mother Theresa? What else is required to prove their intentions?

  • Audit Uscirf

    Great article but it went easy on Modi. Modi is following the footsteps of Mahatma Gandhi the original hindu hraday samrat. Both, Modi & MKG, pay excellent lip service to Hindu Human Rights but carry on with anti-Hindu policy. In 1947, Congress became new British and in 2014 BJP became new congress.

    Modi is following&expanding anti-hindu policies of previous regime. He is fulfilling ManMahon Singh’s promise that ‘Muslims have 1st right on India’s resource’. He is misleading public with false choice between justice and govt expenditure(eg.”temple vs. toilet”). This is a false choice because priority comes in play in resource allocation like Modi govt cutting National Merit Scholarship by 46% and increasing Minority scholarship by 41%. BJP also came up with several new anti-hindu proposals.

    Examples:
    1) In an open-ed,BJP minister wrote that Hindu-festival of Sankranti is a “day of massacre”. BJP high command is silently endorsing Maneka Gandhi’s statement. In constrast, Ghar Wapsi was silently strangled.

    2) Modi govt is silent on targeted killing of 46 hindus,mostly animal right&political activists, in W Bengal, Kerala,UP&K’taka.

    3) BJP Rajasthan govt signed an MOU with controversial evangelist firm.

    4) Modi govt chooses appeasement over merit:-
    Modi govt has cut National means cum merit scholarship from Rs.74cr to Rs.35cr but increased minority scholarship program from Rs1400cr to Rs2011cr.

    5) Modi govt increased minority welfare funding from Rs3069cr to Rs4192cr.

    6) Maharashtra BJP govt is mulling Jersusalem subsidy for Christians and 50% income tax on Hindu temples only.

    7) Citing Secularism,Maharashtra BJP govt banned puja in govt offices( but taking money from Hindu temples is okay?). Fadnavis ministers are discussing 50% tax on hindu temples ONLY. Health minister Girish Mahajan wants to use this tax money for health-care. This is the same Girish Mahajan who recently attended Dawood Ibrahim’s niece wedding.

    8)Modi’s railway ministry added surcharge on Hindu pilgrims train ticket to Kumbh.

    9) BJP rules 2 states JK&Punjab were Hindus are minority. Neither state runs any welfare scheme for Hindu minority. Both states have made no attempt to redress past crimes(i.e Pandit Genocide in JK & Massacres in Punjab) and prosecute culprits.

    10) Madhya BJP Pradesh govt wants to confiscate 25000 hindu temples.

    11) Rajasthan BJP govt wants to confiscate temple land.

    12) BJP is strangling Hindu schools via RTE. Rajasthan BJP govt reduced already puny RTI reimbursement to
    Hindu schools by 15%.

  • Suranjana Bhagi

    What an article !
    And what research !
    Hats off !
    This is WAR.

  • Ramakant Tiwari

    Mind blowing article. What a comprehensive expose !! They are a gang of anti-Hindu / anti-Bharata bastards. RSS have produced so many Modis. Future of the country is safe in PM Modi’s hands.

  • VeVePe

    The forces you define as “the Generic Church” are in fact working for a cabal of oligarch families who are not necessarily Christian at all.

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  • Very very informative article. Very detailed and thorough analysis. Thank you for joining the dots for us.

    The pieces of the puzzle were there all along but not connected.
    – Why does the English media seem so pig-headed?
    – Why was almost all big-ticket project getting stalled?
    – Why was India getting to be called rape-capital while US has more rapes per capita and Saudi no women’s rights?

    – Why are all “intellectuals” so rabidly anti-Hindu?

    Seen in the context of generic church it all makes sense.

    Funnily a few year back a converted lady came to our apartment with a pamphlet on “healing” (FYI for those who are not aware, the Church exploits people when they are at their most vulnerable) and asked me to get healed. When I told her that I did not require healing as I had my very own healing machine (my thread) and invited her to accept Hinduism instead, she said some choice bad words and went away miffed and never came back again.

    Another time, some Save the Children volunteer got angry when I told him that I donate money to Bharat Sevashram Sangha, and accused them of being RSS “terrorists”. I asked the gentleman to kindly get lost and he has not been seen again since.

    My point being, if we all play our parts and do our duties towards our dharma (preventive, defensive as well as offensive), we should be fine.

  • KSG Kamath

    What is the real solution?

  • Sainik Pal

    Very good article which every true Hindu/Indian should propagate about! very good research..Also send it to the Organizer.

  • Kailash

    To fully understand, know and truly *See* what our “World” is going through, one must study the hitherto human history of the past 2,000 years, the history of Civilizational Conflicts between various “world-cum-cosmological views”. World has always remained, still is and will remain in a “constant-conflict” between various ‘worldviews”.
    Currently existing 4 major Worldviews are:
    1. Christian a.k.a. Western Worldview,
    2. Islamic Worldview,
    3. Marxists/Communist Worldview, and
    4. Dharma Worldview (includes Dharma Family:Hindu,Sikh,Jain,Baudh).

    One contemporary example of this ‘constant conflict” manifesting in a violent form is the on-going Western/Christian Worldview’s Violent Conflict with Islamic Worldview over the past several decades.Dharma World view has been constantly suppressed and undermined by all three, Islamic, Christian and Marxist* Worldviews for the past 1,000 years, one time or the other. If you truly want to know what is at stake for ‘Dharma Civilization’, please consider reading and assimilating two
    important books:
    1. Being Different by Rajiv Malhotra.
    2. Breaking India by Rajiv Malhotra and Arvindan Neelakandan.

    *since India’s Political Independence in 1947, its the “Leftists ” who have harmed the “Dharmic Worldviews’ the most, even more than Islamic and Christian aggression towards Dharma View. They have single handedly hijacked Indian literature, history, culture, economics and educational system and turned it anti-Dharma.

  • Roopesh Ravindranathan

    Pleas must make this in All Indian Language then only it reach more people

  • Indian

    The so called Naxalites as rapists, as Naxalites-Communists are nothing but murder rape arm of Christian beasts, led by SONIA. WAKE UP HINDUS TO THE CHRISTIAN ITALIAN NAZI DOGS=INC

    http://epaper.hindisaamana.com/Details.aspx?id=13547&boxid=23190643

    • Radha Rajan

      Please never abuse humans using animal names. I have worked for animal well being for the last 21 years and I tell you with full responsibility, there is no worse creature in god’s world than humans. The world and all of creation will be healthy and in a perfect state of nature without humans.

      • Rajalakshmi J

        “…there is no worse creature in god’s world than humans. The world and all
        of creation will be healthy and in a perfect state of nature without
        humans.”.

        TOTALLY agree with you.

  • The idea of a “generic church” out to control the world as you use it is more or less the same idea as the commonly seen critique of “neoliberalism” albeit with a specifically religious characteristic thrown in. There is so much truth in what you wrote, but it is mixed in with some speculations and that is clearly the problem a lot of people have with this analysis. But asides that there is a much deeper problem with the conspiratorial (as true to whatever degree it may be) vision of society and it’s various cogs. Truly there is a deeper rooted conspiracy and coming to terms with that conspiracy will ultimately undermine whatever else may or may not seem like truth or fiction. Consider that Hinduism as a religion, if we can call it that, is predicated upon the ideology that there is a universal conspiracy which is unbreakable and undeterred in any and all circumstances. That which will be will be, not by the hand of an NGO or politician or blogger or corporation or church or revolution or anything else other then that whose reality we all share. Coming to grips with that conspiracy is the purpose of Hinduism. Anything else in it’s name sells it short.

    Krishna teaches the following in the Uddhava Gita:

    manasā vacasā dṛṣṭyā
    gṛhyate ‘nyair apīndriyaiḥ
    aham eva na matto ‘nyad
    iti budhyadhvam añjasā

    You must all truly understand that what you perceive in the mind, in speech, through sight, and also in others, it is all Me – and nothing but Me.

    guṇeṣv āviśate ceto guṇāś
    cetasi ca prajāḥ jīvasya
    deha ubhayaḿ guṇāś
    ceto mad-ātmanaḥ

    The mind becomes absorbed in sensual perceptions as they enter the mind; but both the objects of perception and the mind, as well as the physical body, are manifestations of Me.

    guṇeṣu cāviśac cittam
    abhīkṣṇaḿ guṇa-sevayā
    guṇāś ca citta-prabhavā
    mad-rūpa ubhayaḿ tyajet

    The sensual perceptions which are repeatedly absorbed into the mind become indulged by the intellect as the cause of them – renounce both the mind and sense objects as being other than sources of My appearance.

    yāvan nānārtha-dhīḥ puḿso
    na nivarteta yuktibhiḥ jāgarty
    api svapann ajñaḥ
    svapne jāgaraṇaḿ yathā

    As long as the conception of a diversity in reality other than Me doesn’t cease by reasoning, then while conscious you are also dreaming. Not realizing the truth is just like being in a dream where you think you are awake.

    asattvād ātmano ‘nyeṣāḿ
    bhāvānāḿ tat-kṛtā bhidā
    gatayo hetavaś cāsya
    mṛṣā svapna-dṛśo yathā

    Nothing exists except Me, creating a distinction in places or accomplishments also causes the jiva to envision a useless dreamworld.

    • Radha Rajan

      Your exact point being? Cutting thru all that needless verbiage I see no point arising from my article. Pl dont use this page to give me lectures in samskrit. Dont need it. My writings are political, Hindu nationalist political.

      • My point is that there is a single conspiracy that cannot be stopped, not many that can. What is the purpose of Hinduism? To promote Hinduism? No, the purpose is to come to grips with reality. Your proposition like so many others tells us that this person or that organization is to blame for this, that or the other thing. Hindu teachings tell us that no one is to blame, that reality has an agenda of its own and goes on regardless of peoples plans. All serve the one whether they like or not.

        • Jishnu

          Reality simply is, there is only one conspiracy and that is the church conspiracy. You can try any kind of apologetic nonsense, won’t be able to change it, and won’t be able to hide it.

          • Xiang Chen

            Pam Ho says ….”Krishna teaches the following in the Uddhava Gita: “You must all truly understand that what you perceive in the mind, in speech, through sight, and also in others, it is all Me – and nothing but Me”.
            That’s right ….and the weakness of India comes from there because ordinary people have difficulty understanding that the distorted and inverted shadow of Krishna is a lie which is not Khrisna …. this is the point from Gita that BJP should clarify to bring all Indians to fight together against the dark.

        • Xiang Chen

          Like yours, the distorted shadow of Krishna is not Khrisna ….can you understand this very simple principle ???
          Then learn to identify the shadow of Krishna and explain where she is (as in this article), this behavior does not go against the teachings of the Sages or the essence of Hindu Dharma. since this allows to the true Krishna out of the shadows

  • Radha Rajan

    There was one private query about why I included Red Cross as one of the components of the Generic Church. That Red Cross is perceived to be a humanitarian relief agency speaks about the success of its marketing strategy. Red Cross like other components works to a geopolitical agenda. Readers are invited to see this:

    http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2125&Itemid=1 Red Cross may not even know where $500 Million in Haiti donations went. But we can guess.

  • Krishna Kumar

    A brilliant article….it is heartening to see lady journalists writing about Hindu Nation and stand for it. For most of the general public, it is an idea only Sangh Parivar, especially the organization of men RSS, speaks. We need Lionesses like this in big numbers.

    • Radha Rajan

      Ouch. Modi said the same thing to Sheikh Hasina when he said he admired her for dealing with terrorism despite being a woman. But thank you for the kind words, sincerely.

    • Radha Rajan

      And I am not a journalist.

  • SuchindranathAiyer

    A comprehensive monograph on the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune flung at
    “Hinduism” by the “Generic Church”: But are these more
    serious or generic than those flung by India’s Constitution plagiarized from
    The Government of India Act (1935) to which Nehru and Ambedkar added notions
    such as inequality under law, exceptions to the rule of law and “the Many
    Nations Theory” borrowed from George Orwell’s Animal Farm and the
    “Committed” Laws and Judiciary
    that spring therefrom? India is suicidal in the very mould of a Khilafat Gandhi
    that is now held up as an example for “Hindus” to follow:

  • Samskarebyaha S

    I think for the first time somebody has put the comprehensive picture in a singe page for all to see and know. Any Indian (Hindu) should know at least this much of what has actually been happening.

  • Soumya Srajan

    A very nice and highly informative article radha rajan- giving a very good view of problem we are facing for last several decades. The western forces mentioned in the article including organizations like amnesty etc.manipulate in other countries including ours to keep these countries under rule of feudal forces, so that they can control them easily. In India congress and most other parties are feudal parties each run by one family with congress top family as the main feudal boss of all. They have been using a very deformed and degenerated ugly form secularism practically as an extremist form of religion as a tool to keep their rule intact exactly as army top and feudal rulers in pakistan are using terrorists extremist machinery, they have developed in their country as a tool to keep their rule intact. The main support to this kind of extremest elements, quite a bit, indeed comes from western countries who provide financial support to such regimes.

    Western countries by following such ugly tactics today find themselves in quagmire situation where they seem to be fighting wars from both sides -they finance these feudal and army top rulers and thus indirectly support these terrorists and extremists and at the same time in many of the countries they have to send their troops to fight the terrorists who are being financed by them. A few months back during the height of american operations in afghanistan there were several articles which talked about how most of transport of american war machinery and soldiers from Pakistani ports to afghanistan was subcontracted to gangs and elements related to dawood ibrahim. Americans have declared him to be an international terrorist -this whole such affair sounds so strange. I hope it is investigated thoroughly by Indians as well as western sane elements.

    Modi may have become prime minister -he surely is one of the most able one our country has had – but still a lot of power is under clutches of such feudal elements. Modi’s success will depend a lot on how much he can get our country out of such feudal clutch.

  • Dr. MS

    Here is an article on Sandra Bland, a Black Christian woman, who was found dead in a police cell after a routine traffic stop…that should not have even led to her being handcuffed, arrested or taken into custody. But in the US lot of Black Christians are being killed by so called “White Christians” for trivial reasons, and sometimes “just for being non-White”.

    Read the article. It is heart wrenching

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/opinion/on-the-death-of-sandra-bland-and-our-vulnerable-bodies.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region

  • Dr. MS

    Words like “ruthlessly” falls right into the very trap that Ms. Rajan says, those vulnerable to a certain kind of manipulation or conversion, should avoid or defeat. If you heighten the rhetoric, with little attention to solving serious internal economic problems and social disparities, you can expect ruthless attacks on yourself from the very lobbies looking for a rationale to “ratchet up their Third World soul saving and community conversions”….and you (the metaphoric you) are not going to win.

    As long as there is no intelligent Hindu alternative to Abrahamic community work, community development, charity work, social justice movement and social development…expect to be defeated while screaming and whining.

    Because many conditions in India are like Sub-Saharan Africa, Western countries’ attitudes and actions treat India, especially certain parts of India, no differently than some African nations where “charity, aid, assistance and community development” are tied to “civilizing dark people of a dark nation”…with relief, reform, re-education and re-organizing of their values and neurons.

    As you probably know many conservative leaders in countries like England, the Netherlands, Germany, etc,, once celebrating multiculturalism and social diversity, are now preaching “assimilation and homogeneity” due to “Islamic terrorism, extremism and self imposed segregation” from immigrants and minorities. This is also influencing “foreign policy”. Money is either being taken away from foreign aid and assistance, or it is going mostly to community work with religious focus or leanings, intended to “civilize, reform and reorganize people considered not suitable for democracy and civilized discourse and co-existence”. Of course there is some hypocrisy and double standards to that belief. After all were not ethnic groups within Europe and sects within Christianity warring with each other for centuries…even up until the 1940s?

    Unless Indians can prove, or demonstrate, to their own people, who are poor, marginalized or struggling, that they can come up with their own solutions and innovations to their economic and social problems, and eliminate disparity, no amount of ranting is going to change “the re-emerging, but different from the past, ‘civilize Brown people movement’.”

    What is needed are Brown people, like Gandhi, who showed that it is some, and sometimes many, Western societies that needed civilizing. But then don’t you guys keep throwing stones at your own former leaders, hating them in ways that shows “complete lack of civility” in dealing with differences today?

  • Deva

    Fantastic article. You must see the video of how the Sakshi TV is bemoaning the death of 30 people day in and day out during pushkarams instead of helping by showing to the people where all the facilities are available and arranged by the government. It is a common man’s statement. Sakshi is owned by rajasekjara reddy son who are Christians and converted villages to Christianity in AP by giving money which they received from these NGOS and the Vatican.

    • Radha Rajan

      Seventh Day Adventists – fanatics.

    • Sree Charan R

      I have stopped reading that New Paper Sakshi too.They are slowly losing their readership—like all media houses, they may become dormant soon, and fortunately !

  • Brabantian

    Very profound theme above, that secularism is just one more form of the Western-imperialist conquest-slavery Abrahamic ‘religion’ – How true! Secularism & atheism are more false schemes to keep people alienated away from nature, away from warm human relationships, away from the divine that they could find deep within themselves … Abrahamic religions are the original con game of offering ‘salvation’ for a problem (‘eternal hell’ etc) that evil ones themselves fabricated

    People in the West who exit conquest-slavery ‘Desert Bloc’ Abrahamic religions, often become secularist-atheist, assuming that ‘all religions’ have the same cruel corrupt core as ‘eternal hell’ torture chamber monotheism … not seeing secularism & atheism are more traps to imprison their spirits

  • Sree Charan R
  • Dr M

    Madam,

    “St. Augustine(or Saint Austin: 354-430 AD)more than 1600 years ago,….” Guess you should have used CE instead of AD! (and without doubt ‘BCE’ instead of ‘BC’)

    For all conspiracy theorists, this might be a holy grail, but for true patriots in INDIA, this only means so much more work to do – to be able to build up one’s true love for the motherland in averting all such negative influences and liberate one’s nation into a truly liberated independent country in tune with how this region was 10,000 years ago!

    Kudos!

    May the force be with you!

  • asha asan

    Excellent article!

    “Secularism is Christianity in disguise”.

    This statement merits an article by itself. Just as Christianity (and other Abrahamic religions) subvert a human’s relationship with nature, family, work etc and turn it into a single minded focus on God/Church, Secularism subverts all relationships and focuses a human’s relationship solely on Government. This destroys families, work ethic, environment etc. (a quick look at the family relationships of the subverts mentioned in this article will be revealing – also what other work they’re good at)

    “There is no BJP without Modi”(just as there is no Congress without Gandhi family)

    This needs to be rectified. I hope that a second rung of leadership is being nurtured.

    AA

  • MahaVakyas

    Great article! However, what is the solution? We know that these Abrahamic cults are out to destroy Hindu Dharma and India, but what can we, the average Hindu, do about it?

  • Jishnu

    We should not ignore corollaries. If right to association with foreign entities is basic freedom, then it follows the corresponding accountability – which means if such funds are used for anti-social or anti-national or any other kind of disrputive activity the activists along with their donors abroad MUST be liable for prosecution under Indian laws. If not, the freedom to undeclared associations cannot exist.

  • Indian

    We should not all depend on MODIJI without providing ANY HELP otherwise he will be like a LIONHEARTED BRAVE but single Hindu warrior Abhimanyu against a combined Kaurava (much better than generic church and its bastard arm the commies) Army, or should he be made strong and stronger like Arjuna, for which Hindus have to be aggressive. the neo buddhist and christian dalits and so called Draviders have left Hinduism, BEST OF LUCK to them, as to Communist and Crypto christian loons, but any attack on Hinduism will be met with a fast, vicious and savage response. If they do not want to live with Hindus let them go from Cambodia to Congo lots of Muslim, christian and Buddhist countries are there. Otherwise Hindus will become like Mali Muslims, Palestinians at best and like Tainos in all possibility, if that ITALIAN BARDANCER From Gutters or her piglets have a go. SONIA should be vilified, attacked and savaged in most focussed manner and a Boycott of the media whores should be done RIGHT AWAY

  • ranjeet

    Saw Sucheta Dalals name in the pdf…page no 353…thought she was neutral #shocked

  • Indian

    A very nice article, highly informative, by Madam Radha Ranjan so that we have another Understudy of the Brave Dr Subramanium Swamy, the REAL INTELLECTUAL KSHTRIYA who sends the chill down the shit spines of the Generaic Church gutter dogs Like Sonia and her IPLs= ITALIAN POTLICKERS pigsty of media prostitutes like the TOILET OF ITALY = TIMES OF INDIA, ITALIAN BASTARDS NETWORK=IBN, ITALIAN EXCRETA = INDIAN EXPRESS AND the running whores like SUAR-desais and Shukar Kuttas (sorry Shekhar Gupta). However, the worst Generic Church arsenal not covered is that Running Dog of Sonia and John Dayal the maddog Kejriwal. The Delhi sluts and gigolos (like Nazi Ram of Hindu, last 20 years has given rise to suspiciously white skinned Blue eyed B..rds, drug addicted Goons, in Delhi?? Thanks to Delhi sluts and FDI-DTH due to ITALIAN NAZI CRUSADER = I.NC. Rule). However, we Hindus are Only Internet Hindus, while the call of the HOUR is to take the battle to streets, jungles to Parliament. A dedicated Extreme Armed and Deadly Hindu Right to send a chill of death against the arms of GENERIC CHURCH, First the attack should be directed against Commie-and Media sluts. Terrorism and Support to terrorism should be the name. I appeal to Likes of Radha Rajan jio and Other scholars here to take the Initiative with like of Dr Swamy, I and many other Hindus will be ready to cooperate with resources and Time. Remember a WAR AGAINST COMMUNISM AND ITALIAN NAZIS can be used a fig leaf for a ALL OUT WAR AGAINST GENERIC CHURCH. We should study the way Anand Marg fought violently against the Genocidal Arm of Church, called Communism in Bengal itself branding all Commies as Naxalites (They are a Arm of Church, Christian Terrorism- What escapes our attention is that AS SOON AS A XIAN CM was placed in Andhra overnight the Christian Naxalites who even attacked Andhra CM Naidu, disappeared overnight from Andhra to emerge in BJP Chattisgarh). The plight of Black and Latin Christians (Till now NO NATIVE IN SOUTH AMERICA OR LATIN AMERICA HAS EVER BEEN ALLOWED TO RULE its always the 3-4% White rule in all these countries- The Liberation Theology was savagely crushed by VATI CAN ANARCHIST in Paraguay where it succeeded to place a President who tried to control the CHURCH PLUNDER). THE GENOCIDE OF POOR MAYANS, INCAS IN 80S IN LATIN AMERICA, in Colombia vide Death Squads and the Daily shooting and killing of Blacks in US should be used to make this ideology of White klannist Murderers Naked. THE COMMUNAL VIOLENCE ACT should be used as WEAPON as it legitimizes the Rape of Hindu women by Xtians, White beasts, Bangladeshis and others savagely against sonia, the Church Weapon in India and Commies. Communist states of Bengal and Kerala where people heve been pauperized to the extent that they slave in Gulf while their woman raped or in the states. LOTS of things are there.BUT “TARGETED VIOLENCE” is irreplaceable against the Leftist Loons of Generic Church. Call it Death Squad diplomacy

  • sighbaboo

    Wonderful Article.!

  • mani maran

    A wonderful and highly educative article. These anti nationals obtain invisibility once they proclaim that they are working on behalf of Dalits as they know that people in India however brave they may be, develop cold feet once they hear the word Dalit. As mentioned by the author just for instructing the RBI to seek prior permission of the Home department to release funds received by some NGOs if there is such a hue and cry, just imagine what can happen if the members of these organisations are arrested for anti-national activities? Especially now when India is so weak with enemies all around (Pakistan and China), the initiative to deal with these anti nationals should be taken by patriotic Hindus by assassinating them so that no organisation from outside would dare to establish its shop in India.

    • Indian

      “the initiative to deal with these anti nationals should be taken by patriotic Hindus by assassinating them so that no organisation from outside would dare to establish its shop in India.”
      BRAVO MANI MARAN JI..VOW A BRAVE HINDU VOICE..THIS IS THE CALL TODAY..THANKS A LOT..

    • Srinivas

      The Shias have their militia, the Sunnis have their militia, and the Christian powers are armed to the teeth, so also the Jews. The present Hindu politicians with their appeasement policies will see that India becomes a Muslim majority nation within some fifty years. At that time if Hindus rely on lathis and trishuls for their protections they will meet the same fate that the Yazidis are facing today under the hands of the ISIS. It is high time that Hindus form a militia of their own and arm themselves with
      modern weapons. See https://thinkerspad.wordpress.com/2015/02/10/urgent-need-of-a-hindu-militia/

  • Costly Truth

    scary. Is there a way out for our country from this??

    • Indian

      YES there is a way out “Saffron Terror”, as Spanish did in 40s against Communism, if “Suharto solution” is not coming forth, the Brown Shirts of Hinduism. Chinese and Japanese History of 17th-18th century when a Maddog “Brother of Christ (us)” with a Harem of 60000 women tried to bring his Infernal Insane “Kingdom of God” in China, killing more than WWI casualties. However, it is to the Greatness of Chinese Ruler at that Time that he employed all means AND WIPED THESE MADNUT Xtians “Hell Kingdom of God loons” to the last man, never to recover till now. The latest is the Sri Lankan example of wiping the sonia-vatican conspiracy, while it succeeded in Nepal in garb of Maoists. Hindus needs a HINDRAF, A LTTE right now so that everything is evened out. Those filthy pigs of media and Political dogs against the hanging of Yakub Menon and their families should be garroted/assasinated right now (Sorry I would not insult the Noose as that was used to Hang the GREATS LIKE SARDAR BHAGAT SINGH, a lowly Italian garrot would be loved by these low lives)

  • NK Sarma

    Wonderful and very informative. I like the fact that you don’t hesitate calling out Modi’s secular mistakes. It resonates well with my views about Modi whenever he goes over board into appeasement. I wish someone gives these feedbacks to Modi and educate him on Gandhi and muslim rule.

  • Abhay

    Excellent but Don’t agree that Secular and Christians are same norms.
    They are from same origin so similar ideologies but Secularism is the only rival ideology I see infront of Hinduism.

    • Radha Rajan

      White Church and White State are siblings – same parent, sibling rivalry, may not look alike, may work in different areas – but siblings nevertheless like human siblings. Same blood and as they have demintrated repeatedly, blood is thicker than water.

      • Chaturvedi Udayashankar

        With respect, may I request you to permit me to differ from the article. Most of the points, vide the article, made on Church are correct. Church is not the same as Christ and the Bible. Please check whether Sakshi group of Andhra Pradesh are Roman Catholics or Protestants. If they are Protestants , your analysis is wrong. Vatican does not support Protestants! I know many Christian organisations who are genuinely working for the poor without indulging in Conversions. Please remember Dalits and Tribes are Hindus. Only some of them took to Christianity as their Hindu brothern ill treated them and Christianity offered health, education and livelihood support. Vicekananda said,” it is an insult to the poor if they are taught lessons in what ever Religion and culture”. So, Christians are right in offering things denied to them by the so called upper Castes. Did not Vivekananda fight Kerala Namboodris? RSS and Sangh Parivar are yet to take out Ratha Yathras against the social evils( dowry, caste feelings, untouchability, not treating women with respect / domestic violence etc.) with in Hindu fold. The victims of social evils with in Hindu fold naturally get attracted to other Religions. Guruji Golwalkar talked about setting things right with in Hindu fold before admitting others into RSS. Let us concentrate on reforming ourselves. That is the best way of paving the way for Ghar Vaapasi, but not any questionable way.

        • Jishnu

          YSR (father of Jagan, owner of of Sakshi) used to visit Bethelham Jerusalem on his birthday. They are orthodox catholic. Both Maino and YSR had vatican leanings.

          “Only some of them took to Christianity as their Hindu brothern ill treated them and Christianity offered health, education and livelihood support”

          Nope. Tribals lived peaceful lives until the advent of invaders. Hundreds of groups lost their livelihood and are reduced to oppressed groups *because of* enslavement and feudalizing done during invasions and Indian society was NOT oppressive by its nature. Whoever dalits think of as their saviors, are the ones that actually caused their current condition. Dalit groups have simply not invested in uncovering their own past and keep parroting the poisonous colonial stories.

          As I noted in another comment, quoting what Vivekananda said a hundred years ago demonstrates we have not updated ourselves with the information and details of past that are coming out. For starters read KS Lal’s book growth of Scheduled Tribes and Castes in Medieval India. So instead of repeating the colonial propaganda one should first make a proper study to understand the phenomena, their source, their solution. This “social evil” jargon is not going to take us anywhere.

          “Let us concentrate on reforming ourselves. That is the best way of paving the way for Ghar Vaapasi, but not any questionable way”

          Another cliche. I have so far not seen any “lets reform ourselves” arguing Hindu been able to give an answer to this question, but you can try answering:

          How and why do you think the enemy with a worse human rights track record is able to lure you? Is it because he reformed himself or because he is doing a polemic better than you?

          If you have a convincing answer, then count on me to leave my position and accept your position.

          • Pericles

            Kindly provide evidence for your comments YSR is ‘orthodox catholic’ so that everyone can be enlightened on indiafacts for a different view of YSR. The description below is adapted from an Rediff article.

            Yedugoori Sandinti Venkat Reddy was a Lord Venkateshwara devotee till Father Rolls and Sister Noble descended on his Balpanur village, near Pulivendla, Cuddapah district. The two British Protestants struck a chord in Venkat Reddy’s heart, and he embraced Christianity. The whole village was soon gunning for his blood.

            ‘”My father-in-law had a harrowing time,” says Yedugoori Sandinti Jayamma. ‘”He was about to be ostracised from the village, but sarpanch Achuta Narayana Reddy came to his rescue. And my father-in-law and his family were allowed to stay back in the village. But my father-in-law was too proud to stay back. They moved to Pulivendla in 1933, bought 120 acres of land and settled here… And the whole family embraced Christianity.”

            Dr YSR, as he was affectionately known, was a member of the Protestant Church of South India. He was a committed Christian. His father Raja Reddy was also a Christian. They worshipped at the CSI church in their hometown, Pulivendula. The late chief minister was a third generation Christian.

            Reverend Dr P J Lawrence, the bishop of the Church of South India’s Nandyal diocese, remembers Dr Reddy: Dr YSR was a very devoted Christian, always attending church whenever they were in their hometown. Incidentally, Dr Reddy and I studied at the Veerasaiva College in Bellary (eastern Karnataka bordering Andhra Pradesh). We were contemporaries in college. I had the privilege of attending their (YSR’s family’s) last Christmas function. There were many family members there and also preachers. It is a very big family of more than 500 close relatives.

            Dr YSR read the Bible and prayed every day with Christian discipline. His mother was a very devout lady. She prayed for his success in the first election. Dr YSR always acknowledged his mother’s prayers for his success.

          • Excellent article and both strategic as well as revealing. I have been a practicing Sanatan Dharmi aka Hindu for the last 48 years and have been teaching Vedic knowledge full time for the last 20 years. Born a Christian but rejecting it by age 13, I am 100% committed to Hindu tva and the revival of Her culture in Bharat. I also have a degree in History and Comparative Religion and am currently finishing a English rendering of the Bhagavad-gita in which for the first time I have removed ALL Christian words such as sin, God, Lord, Heaven, Religion, angels etc. One of my observations regarding this article comes from an interesting phenomenon I have observed. Most Hindu immigrants to America and Canada consider themselves Conservatives, without understanding that in North America, Conservative politics and rabid fundamentalist Christianity are the same. Here, to fight fracking, GMO, Nuclear power etc. is to be aligned with values imported from India: vegetarian, non drinking, sustainable, preventive medicine rather than allopathy, against the excesses of pharmaceutical companies, to favor solar over nuclear, all of which are rooted in India, Yoga, reincarnation, the works. To hold those views in North America is also to be against fundamentalist and apocalyptic Christianity. If political India leads the world forward in those and related areas, they will shine the light on anyone who is pushing the Christian or Islamic agenda. We have learned these superior attitudes from the teachers in Bharat. Therefore it is crucial that you, that we lead the world forward at this time promoting a many lifetime world view which no Abrahamic religion does. Non colonizing Christians are being pulled toward these views in North America. So while removing dangerous NGOs with nefarious intentions, it is equally important for India and Narendra Modi to be the clear leader in these important directions. Carpe diem. Now is the time to take this stance and thereby liberate two birds with no stones. I will end with a quote from the Polish Pope John who spoke at a synod of Asian Catholic Bishops held of course in India. The Pope said: and I quote directly, “In the 20th century we planted the cross in Africa, in the 21st century we must plant it in Asia.” In my opinion that plan needs to be uprooted in every way possible which includes especially espousing a new planetary direction and set of ideals aligned with Sanatan Dharma values and culture. Hari om!

          • Pericles

            Well said and kudos to your ‘true’ eternal dharma values which should derive power from the fuel of Swami Vivekanda’s Ishta philosophy !!!!!!!!!!

            When examining our history we see a spirit of defiance stretching over a thousand years in the face of implacable and merciless enemies, who put an end to many other cultures and civilizations. The same forces which had overcome virtually every indigenous civilization in the world had thrown their entire might against India – and failed. Ancient faiths like Buddhism and Zoroasterism were almost obliterated from the Middle East, Central Asia and India but the Hindus rose in defiance to emerge even stronger at the end of the blood soaked millennia.

            Attack after attack was defeated. Horrific massacres did not force the people to abandon their religion and identity. The destruction of holy places did not see dharma die but rise again and overcome their opponents with the power of truth. The banner of freedom was raised generation after generation despite the best attempts of some vested parties to blur the truths and sacrifices made again and again. From the universal preaching of Swami Vivekananda to the guns of the Anushilan Samiti the Hindus were at the forefront of a growing anti colonial challenge to the most powerful empire in the world. Spurred by a revaluation of their history and the knowledge of western theories, a new revival began to take fruit.

            However we still repeat the errors of our previous generations since nobody cares about the ‘true’ Indian History. Hinduism has become more entrenched and preserved in rituals which are less and less understood by the current generation. Sanskrit learning is on its death bed which was previously already on the decline. Caste has become rigid and inflexible making conversions to other religions easy as if they practice equality. The need of the hour is a variation of the simplified form of Hinduism akin to the ‘“Bhakti movement” particularly suitable to the 21st century to preach and act the message of dharma which helped India to revive itself in the teeth of an implacable enemy during the middle ages. We need a new educated wave of spiritual teachers preaching that simple devotion and love of God through service to mankind and envirnoment and love of all people and creatures and not love of the religion or its money is the simplest root to salvation. Only then the myths of the Abrahamic religions as well as the aggressive and fanatic Hindu fundamentalism without any Vedic or Puranic evidence in counter to that will rest in peace. Jai Hind !!!

          • KC

            Pericles,
            Sorry but, either your thinking is highly “colonized aka Christianized ” or you are a ‘good cop’ trying to infiltrate. Want me to prove it?

          • Pericles

            The thoughts of western logic, Western philosophy and European history studied by Narendra Nath Datta a.k.a Swami Vivekananda could not extinguish the fuel of Hindu scriptures, including the Vedas, the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, the Ramayana, the Mahabharata and the Puranas in him. He became a major force in the revival of Hinduism in India, and contributed to the concept of nationalism in colonial India inspite of his Western education.

            It must be elementary my dear friend KC, since you have already listed out the available two options, so go on. If pointing out the same historical blunders we have committed with the Mughal invasion (underestimating the barbarism) and East Indian Company Invasion of the British (gun power and naval might) is colonial Christian education to you, we are proud to be associated with the same Western education which was studied by Swami Vivekananda for morality with control of the mind and seeing truth, purity and unselfishness as traits which strengthened it !!!!

          • KC

            You my dear friend, you are mixing the two. Studying the other is called ‘purva paksha’ that we must do to understand the other. But one must not leave its own inherent Dharmic Identity.
            Its laughable you are sold out on Western logic and philosophy.
            Here is something for you to consider.
            http://www.dailyo.in/lifestyle/nyaya-sutra-philosophy-buddhism-ancient-india-jaina-sanskrit-vedanta/story/1/5162.html

            To fully understand, know and truly *See* what our “World”
            is going through, one must study the hitherto human history of the past 2,000 years, the history of Civilizational Conflicts between various “world-cum-cosmological views”.
            World has always remained, still is and will remain in a “constant-conflict”
            between various ‘worldviews”.
            Currently existing 4 major Worldviews are:
            1. Christian a.k.a. Western Worldview,
            2. Islamic Worldview,
            3. Marxists/Communist Worldview, and
            4. Dharma Worldview (includes Dharma Family:Hindu,Sikh,Jain,Baudh).

            One contemporary example of this ‘constant conflict” manifesting in a violent form is the on-going Western/Christian Worldview’s Violent Conflict with Islamic Worldview over the past several decades.

            Dharma World view has been constantly suppressed and undermined by all three, Islamic, Christian and Marxist Worldviews for the past 1,000 years, one time or the other.
            If you truly want to know what is at stake for ‘Dharma Civilization’, please consider reading and assimilating two important books:
            1. Being Different by Rajiv Malhotra.
            2. Breaking India by Rajiv Malhotra and Arvindan Neelakandan.

          • Pericles

            Sure mate, will read the two books and comment back to you. KC, one thing, i find something illogical in your second last comment, do you really think that Marxist/Left worldviews were present for the past 1000 years one time or the other, correct me if i am wrong and enlighten me on that!!!

            Communist thought has been traced back to the work of 16th-century English writer Thomas More. In his treatise Utopia(1516), More portrayed a society based on common ownership of property, whose rulers administered it through the application of reason. Later in the 19th century, Karl Marx described other social reformers as “utopian socialists” to contrast them with his program of “scientific socialism”. So according to me the 3rd listed Marxists/Communist Worldview will not be applicable to 1000 year conflicts between the other world views!!!

          • KC

            First to answer your question, since India’s Political Independence in 1947, its the “Leftists ” who have harmed the “Dharmic Worldviews’ the most, even more than Islamic and Christian Worldview. They have single handedly hijacked Indian literature, history, culture, economics and educational system. So, when I wrote, one time or other, I mean this time period for Commies.

            Mahatrama Gandhi was not a Indologists and a Professor or Religion or not even purely a Dharma Defender. His role was mostly political activism.

            In the 21st century, in 2015, listen how “Dharma Civilization ” is viewed by Who’s who of Christian/Western Civilization. Take a look at get back, por favor.

            https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2okkdt_bigotry-and-hate-of-christian-leaders-towards-hindu-faith-and-hindu-people_news

          • Pericles

            Nowhere it is mentioned as Mahatma Gandhi was an Indologist, a Professor of comparative Religions or a pure Dharma Defender in the quoted papers. We should not overreach to find differences in India while there was historical mutuality between the different religions existing in India.

            Gandhi previously like many Hindu thinkers held the identist doctrine, which is summed as “All people of India are Hindus.” But later Gandhi embraced “being different” which is explained as “being true to yourself within your own cultural dharma finding your unique identity therein, and having respect for other cultures” to reflect Swami Vivekananda’s revolutionary idea: “The Christian is not to become a Hindu or a Buddhist, nor a Hindu or a Buddhist to become a Christian. But each must assimilate the spirit of the others and yet preserve his individuality and grow according to his own law of growth.” .

            Quoting Gerald James Larson “For Hindu traditions, “dharma” usually means “varaaçrama-dharma” or “sanatana-dharma,” the former referring to the Brahmanical ritual duties of caste and station or stage of life, the latter referring to the “unchanging” or “eternal law” of the Hindu way of life. The term “dharma” never has this meaning in Buddhist traditions (whether Theravåda, Mahåyåna or Vajrayåna). The term “dharma” for the Jainas is yet again interestingly different and irreducible to either Hindu or Buddhist “dharma.” In all of this, what is fascinating about the so-called “Dharma” traditions is their remarkable differences. They cannot be reduced to the “integral unity”.

            Kindly also read Peter Watson’s 2002 book ‘The Modern Mind: An Intellectual History of the 20th Century’. He says “I began to work my way through scholars who specialised in the major non-Western cultures: India, China, Japan, southern and central Africa, the Arab world. I was shocked (and that is not too strong a word) to find that they all (I am not exaggerating, there were no exceptions) came up with the same answer, that in the twentieth century, the non-Western cultures have produced no body of work that can compare with the ideas of the West….I should make it clear that a good proportion of these scholars were themselves members of those very non-Western cultures”.

            “Of course, there are important Chinese writers and painters in the twentieth century, and we can all think of important Japanese film directors, Indian novelists, and African dramatists.…We have examined the thriving school of revisionist Indian historiography. Distinguished scholars from a non-Western background are very nearly household names—one thinks of Edward Said, Amartya Sen, Anita Desai or Chandra Wickramasinghe. But, it was repeatedly put to me that there is no twentieth-century Chinese equivalent of, say, surrealism or psychoanalysis, no Indian contribution to match logical positivism.…Whatever list you care to make of twentieth century innovations, be it plastics, antibiotics, and the atom or stream-of-consciousness novels…orabstract expressionism, it is almost entirely Western.”

            We modern Indians have to change the paralyzed Hindu thought and the great lethargy of Hindu civilization which coincided with the extinction of Buddhism and the victory of Islam in Delhi toward the end of the thirteenth century, the period when the last of the great temples were erected. People like you and me everywhere have ideas now of who we Indians are and what we owe ourselves to be born and to be an integral part of this great country. The liberation of the Indian spirit has to fill a rage and revolt in our minds which will bring forth change in the cultural aspects.

            The solution to this can be partly adapted from Percival Spear’s “solution of synthesis”—the effort to adapt to the newcomers from various religions, in the process of which innovation and assimilation gradually occur, alongside an ongoing agenda to preserve the unique values of the many traditions of Hinduism (and other religious traditions as well). “Solution of synthesis” was able to prevail in the work of such figures as Rammohan Roy, Sayyid Ahmed Khan, Rabindranath Tagore, Swami Vivekananda, M.K. Gandhi, Muhammad Iqbal, V.D. Savarkar, and many others . Such willingness to achieve a synthesis that is neither fearful of the new nor dismissive of the old should be “the ideological secret of modern India” to challenge modern Western culture and colonial ideology.

          • Kailash

            You are simply looking at the one side of the coin, avoiding the other side deliberately ? Are you that naive or trying to act smart as a ‘good cop’?

            The problem is NOT on the Dharma side.

            Serious problems lies in how Islam and Christianity perceives Hinduism and Hindus.
            FYI…”mutual” means both ways, not ‘one way’ unconditional offer.

            A Hindu is a “Kufar” for a Muslim and a “heathen” for a Christian.
            Its centrally written in the Koran and Bible respectively. Mainstream Islam and Christianity still adhere to and act based on the above ‘finality’ mentioned in their scriptures.

            Hindus, Sikhs, Jain and Budhists need to stand-up, speak-out and DEMAND ‘mutuality’ in respect.

            Indian Christian or White Christian from america, both read the same bible. got it?

          • Pericles

            A humane educated Muslim or Christian who follows the true Koranic or Biblical principles from God never considers any other religious person as a Kafir or heathen just like you cannot generalize all Hindus to call low caste men as Shudras.

            For example the “heathen” in the Biblical times were non-Jewish idolaters who did not know the one true God. Today, heathen means “pagan” or “unbeliever,” or it is used to describe sinful or irreligious activity in general. Many times, people use the word heathen today to refer to the culture of a people, without regard to religion; the word has taken on the connotation of “barbaric” or “uncivilized.” Nations with regressive technology or a lack of economic development, for example, might be considered part of “heathendom.” No practicing Indian Christian I have come across has applied this word to his Hindu friends and kindly let us refrain from slandering Islam and Christinaity without evidence.

            We always repeat again that this is not the time to hold grudges about the past or the present. Nobody sees any side of dharma since Dharma is universally present in Christianity, Islam or any peaceful religion around the world. If you tell that ISIS, US government follows violent ways, it means they are not following the Koran or the Bible. Let us read the Gita thoroughly first and When your deliberately avoiding the Solution of synthesis what Swami Vivekananda had already foretold instead of demanding mutuality in respect how can I be so naive or a good cop to instill peace here?

          • Kailash

            Its clear to me now that you are a nothing but a good cop “Christianity defender ” to say the least.

            Listen man, here is what mainstream Worldwide Christian Leaders, who have power, billions of dollars of money, and network including Global TV Channels say about Hindus and Hinduism.

            This is a 9 minutes video. Listen each and every word and get back to me, if you can. Thousands of Christian Missionaries speak the same language or even worse in streets of India, on a daily basis, as we speak.

            https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2okkdt_bigotry-and-hate-of-christian-leaders-towards-hindu-faith-and-hindu-people_news

          • Pericles

            So what about

            1. Mata Amritanandamayi whose estimated net worth: $273,257,000 and whose centers are located in wealthy districts with high property values throughout North America, South America, Europe and the rest of the world.

            2. Swami Ramdev Baba whose Estimated net worth: $202,503,000 and who purchased conch-shaped Scottish island with 13th century castle for £2 million, claiming that “the island base is not about property as much as it is about spreading Indian values.” He also has spent USD 4.5 million on construction of a Patanjali Yogpeeth branch built on 60-acre plot in Rosenberg, Texas.

            3. Sri Sri Ravi Shankar whose estimated net worth: $184,094,000 and whose Art of Living organizations are currently located in 152 countries.

            So these are just the three of mainstream Worldwide Hindu Leaders who have power, billions of dollars of money, and networks including Global TV influencing Hindus and Hinduism. Like you suggest for stopping conversions in India, don’t foreigners also want to stop their Hinduism based activities abroad too. If thousands of Christian Missionaries speak the same language in streets of India, its time we the Billion help Hinduism in the spirit of Swami Vivekananda assimilate the spirit of the others and yet preserve individuality and let them grow according to their own law of growth. This will impact cultural dharma abroad finding unique identities and having respect for other cultures is always the best way for people to convert to Hinduism.

          • Kailash

            Why are you not getting the ‘point’?
            My question is about Christianity and Islam insulting and demonizing Hindus and their traditions.
            1. Listen that video, Christianity and Christian leaders call Hindus as possessed by demons, call Hindu traditions as demonic, and Hindu deities as demons.
            2. Have you heard any Hindu calling Jesus a demon ?
            Why don’t you get this simple point?
            Are you a christian too who is trying to be a good cop?

            Also,

            Hindu texts and Hindu leaders have no global plan to convert and recruit from other ‘religions’.
            Selling Ayurvedic products and teaching yoga asaans and meditation is converting ? Modern Science says these are ‘very helping’ for body, mind, brain, and human creativity. Can you deny that?

            Also, Hindu teachers go where they are ‘wanted’ but Christian missionaries go where they can ‘mislead, deceive and bribe poor people” to convert.
            Do you see the difference ?

            If you are a good human being who have a reasonable level of ability to see Truth, then you should stop defending Christianity and playing these words game with me.
            Would you listen to your inner ‘conscience’ ?

            You need to study and see the difference:
            1. Hindu practices are based on ‘experiential wisdom’ hence they are factual and science back them up.

            2. Christianity and Islam are ‘belief’ based ‘truth claims’ whose authenticity is yet to be proved by science.
            Do you see the difference?

          • Pericles

            When the points listed by you are so weak, how do you expect me to get your ‘point’. Try to answer me on the following points and then I am sure to be impressed by your counter views.

            1. Demons are viewed as Asuras per Hindu mythology. There are both good and noble asuras and bad demons too. Can you deny that? If a Christian does not know the difference between a Hindu God and a demon, its their ignorance. So is it sane when you get so angry against an ignorant Christian who does not know or respect other religious beliefs in the video you have linked. Its time that every religion knew about the beliefs of other religion before you start hating everything.

            2. An educated Hindu or Muslim who knows Christian beliefs will never tell Jesus a demon because he or she already knows the demons in Christianity are called Satan or devils. If a Hindu calls Jesus a demon, then what does he call Shaitan, may be its God according to your logic.

            3. Why do you always expect a Christian to defend his religion and to be an enemy to other religions. If I am a Muslim why can’t I defend Christianity or Hinduism and if I am a Hindu why cant I defend Islam or Christianity. Does it make me a traitor to Hinduism, if its your thinking its wrong according to the noble vision of Swami Vivekananda which is the freedom of the Ishta.

            4. Thanks for accepting the current misguided Hindu teachers and leaders go to where they are ‘wanted’ by the rich and not to the poor who are misleaded, deceived and bribed by the evil missionaries. So you think is it right that Hinduism caters to only the wanting rich and affluent and is content to selling products such as Ayurveda, Yoga and meditation. Why are the Hindu leaders and gurus so afraid when they are busy in business of religion that its poor will convert to caring religions such as Islam or Christianity which according to you only converts by offering benefits? So how much is the charity to the poor prescribed by Hinduism according to the Vedas when you have certain amounts to be offered to the poor recorded in the Koran and the Bible in your income. If the Church is the second biggest land owner behind the Indian Government, what about the temple managers such as Tirupathi Devasthanam and in Kerala. Dont you think with their money, they can provide education, clothing, shelter and food for all poor people of India to stop the conversion activities of the evil missionaries.

            5. Listen to your inner conscience too. Take care to show me some randomized meta analytic studies on Hindu practices based on ‘experiential wisdom’ are factual and then you can proclaim that science backs them up. Every religion be it Islam, Christianity or Hinduism are belief based systems which can be misquoted as backed up by modern science. Some of the views such as yoga and meditation have scientific truth in psychological studies which should be applied to our daily life and some of them like ancient vimana travel are pure myths which should be discarded. Not all views of Hinduism are science based and its the same in other religions too. No other religion has such authoritative medicine texts (Ayurveda, Siddha, Unani and several medicinal systems are recorded from the start of recorded time) and its time we subject it to modern testing methods for safety, efficacy and treatment of the globe to the benefit and pride of India. So what is it stopping us to become a world power in medicine? Christian or Islamic missionaries or Hindu godmen or leaders indulging in business.

          • Kailash

            1. Muslims are brutely killing Muslims as well as non muslims. Its getting so barbaric that you can’t even watch those crimes. ISIS, LET, Taliban and the rest draw their inspiration and life meaning from Quran. This is end of Islam discussion. No more discussion needed for a wise person.

            2. Christianity says earth is only 6 thousand years old. Christianity has many genocides on their record. Even now, Christian missionaries are racking havoc in native cultures. Christianity is inherently hostile towards non-Christian traditions. End of discussion about Bible for a reasonable person.

            What else you got?

            Watch this and cry for humanity if you are a human and care for other fellow beings.
            http://www.bhaskar.com/news-ht/INT-isis-fighters-execute-prisoners-with-buried-bombs-5080479-NOR.html

          • Pericles

            Mate, its not the end of discussion until we conclude so. So why do you always look at one side of the coin and not through the other eye which certainly will make you half blind.

            1. Tolerance of PBU Prophet Muhammad: Throughout Prophet Muhammad’s lifetime, tolerance was one of the most basic ideas underlying his behavior. Respect to Allah’s commands and mercy to His creatures, and tolerance for others out of love for their Creator is one of Islam’s basic principles. is basic reference on this subject was the Quran: “Wert thou severe or harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about thee. “Say to My servants that they should (only) say those things that are best.” “Do not curse those who take another god for they, exceeding their limits, curse Allah.” In all relationships the Prophet gave precedence to being reasonable and moderate, to establishing ties of friendship and love in place of enmity, to gentleness instead of anger, rage, revenge and getting even, and to kindness rather than evil. Indicating that goodness lay in the foundation of the other religion, he showed respect to all prophets and sacred books of Christianity . He called people to religion and approached them with tolerance in light of the verse, “Invite all to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious.” Others being harsh and rude in response to this call did not make him forego this principle.

            Prophet Muhammad acted extremely carefully in regard to the rights of peoples the Islamic state had agreements with. In regard to this the Prophet said, “Whoever harms a non-Muslim subject will have harmed me. Whoever hurts me will have angered Allah.” Again, in a hadith related by Abu Davud, the Prophet said, “On Doomsday I am not going to accept anyone who oppressed a non-Muslim subject with whom we have agreement, or violated their rights, or burdened them with more responsibility than they could carry or made them do something they did not want to do.” So if ISIS are not acting in the ways of the Prophet or Koran, it means according to the belief’s of true and kind Muslims, ISIS are inviting Satan’s rule of hell on earth and heaven.

            2. Any religion including Christianity, cult or denomination that promotes hatred toward others cannot be from God the Father and the son Lord Jesus Christ since during his lifetime, Jesus ate with publicans and sinners because he loved them and wanted to lead them to serve the living and true God and not with the Pharisees, some of the most powerful religious leaders in Palestine. Christ demonstrated his love for all people by showing compassion to those who were suffering. The gospel records are full of examples of his compassion such as Jesus cleaning a leper (Mt. 8:4), healing a paralytic (Mt. 8:13) and curing the high fever Peter’s mother-in-law was experiencing (Mt. 8:14-15). On one occasion, “great multitudes came unto him, having with them those who were lame, blind, dumb, maimed and others, and cast them down at Jesus’ feet: in so much that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb speak, the maimed to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they glorified the God of Israel.” Because the multitude which followed him had no place to buy food, Jesus told his disciples: “I have compassion on the multitude because they continue with me three days, and have nothing to eat: and will not send them away fasting, lest they faint on the way.” It was on this occasion that he miraculously multiplied seven loaves and a few fish to feed the multitude of four thousand men plus women and children (Mt. 15:30-38).

            Jesus also taught: “Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God (literally, “the sons of God”) (Mt. 5:9). Will troublemakers also be called the sons of God? They will be called sons of the devil. Jesus often stressed the duty of all people to love one another. He admonished his disciples: “This is my commandment, That you love one another, as I have loved you.” He also said “Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends, if you do whatsoever I command you” (John 15:12-14). In his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus explained our duty to love our enemies. “You have heard that it has been said, You shall love your neighbor, and hate your enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them who curse you, do good unto them who hate you, and pray for them who despitefully use you and persecute you; that you may be the children of your Father who is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends his rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love them who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the publicans do the same” (Mt. 5:43-46)? The trouble making, genocide filled Christianity which you refer is not the Kingdom of God which was dreamt by Jesus Christ when he was in the earth for the future Christians and those trouble making and hostile missionaries will never attain heaven on earth or in the skies.

            3. So how long will you spill venom and spread hatred about other religions without knowing the universal supreme truth and when are you going to be dear to God ? If you dont know how to do that refer to the Bhagavad Gita for the following verse “One who is not envious but who is a kind friend to all living entities, who does not think himself a proprietor, who is free from false ego and equal both in happiness and distress, who is always satisfied and engaged in devotional service with determination and whose mind and intelligence are in agreement with Me–he is very dear to Me.”

            So are the yugas of Hinduism in agreement with the scientifically calculated millions of years theory for age of earth. The whole of Christian community never believes in young earth theory and only certain people do just like other skeptic religions. The word war against different cultures and religions has always been a tried and true method of political maneuvering and I am reminded of a one liner by comedian Billy Connolly, “Hypocrisy is the Vaseline of political intercourse.” when viewing your answer. I have already given you more than you asked and at least try to care for other fellow human beings in other religions while not worrying about the barbarians (ISIS) in Islam and the Christian militants.

          • Pericles

            Mate, its not the end of discussion until we conclude so. So why do you always look at one side of the coin and not through the other eye which certainly will make you half blind. Tolerance does not require acceptance of all ideas as being true, but merely a willingness to hear alternative beliefs.

            1. Tolerance of PBU Prophet Muhammad: Throughout Prophet Muhammad’s lifetime, tolerance was one of the most basic ideas underlying his behavior. Respect to Allah’s commands and mercy to His creatures, and tolerance for others out of love for their Creator is one of Islam’s basic principles. is basic reference on this subject was the Quran: “Wert thou severe or harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about thee. “Say to My servants that they should (only) say those things that are best.” “Do not curse those who take another god for they, exceeding their limits, curse Allah.” In all relationships the Prophet gave precedence to being reasonable and moderate, to establishing ties of friendship and love in place of enmity, to gentleness instead of anger, rage, revenge and getting even, and to kindness rather than evil. Indicating that goodness lay in the foundation of the other religion, he showed respect to all prophets and sacred books of Christianity . He called people to religion and approached them with tolerance in light of the verse, “Invite all to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious.” Others being harsh and rude in response to this call did not make him forego this principle.

            Prophet Muhammad acted extremely carefully in regard to the rights of peoples the Islamic state had agreements with. In regard to this the Prophet said, “Whoever harms a non-Muslim subject will have harmed me. Whoever hurts me will have angered Allah.” Again, in a hadith related by Abu Davud, the Prophet said, “On Doomsday I am not going to accept anyone who oppressed a non-Muslim subject with whom we have agreement, or violated their rights, or burdened them with more responsibility than they could carry or made them do something they did not want to do.” So if ISIS are not acting in the ways of the Prophet or Koran, it means according to the belief’s of true and kind Muslims, ISIS are inviting Satan’s rule of hell on earth and heaven.

            2. Any religion including Christianity, cult or denomination that promotes hatred toward others cannot be from God the Father and the son Lord Jesus Christ since during his lifetime, Jesus ate with publicans and sinners because he loved them and wanted to lead them to serve the living and true God and not with the Pharisees, some of the most powerful religious leaders in Palestine. Christ demonstrated his love for all people by showing compassion to those who were suffering. The gospel records are full of examples of his compassion such as Jesus cleaning a leper (Mt. 8:4), healing a paralytic (Mt. 8:13) and curing the high fever Peter’s mother-in-law was experiencing (Mt. 8:14-15). On one occasion, “great multitudes came unto him, having with them those who were lame, blind, dumb, maimed and others, and cast them down at Jesus’ feet: in so much that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb speak, the maimed to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they glorified the God of Israel.” Because the multitude which followed him had no place to buy food, Jesus told his disciples: “I have compassion on the multitude because they continue with me three days, and have nothing to eat: and will not send them away fasting, lest they faint on the way.” It was on this occasion that he miraculously multiplied seven loaves and a few fish to feed the multitude of four thousand men plus women and children (Mt. 15:30-38).

            Jesus also taught: “Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God (literally, “the sons of God”) (Mt. 5:9). Will troublemakers also be called the sons of God? They will be called sons of the devil. Jesus often stressed the duty of all people to love one another. He admonished his disciples: “This is my commandment, That you love one another, as I have loved you.” He also said “Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends, if you do whatsoever I command you” (John 15:12-14). In his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus explained our duty to love our enemies. “You have heard that it has been said, You shall love your neighbor, and hate your enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them who curse you, do good unto them who hate you, and pray for them who despitefully use you and persecute you; that you may be the children of your Father who is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends his rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love them who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the publicans do the same” (Mt. 5:43-46)? The trouble making, genocide filled Christianity which you refer is not the Kingdom of God which was dreamt by Jesus Christ when he was in the earth for the future Christians and those trouble making and hostile missionaries will never attain heaven on earth or in the skies. Those who say that Christians or Muslims should not express their beliefs are actually the ones who are being intolerant, since they are unwilling to grant equal freedom of expression to Christian or Islamic beliefs.

            3. So how long will you spill venom and spread hatred about other religions without knowing the universal supreme truth and when are you going to be dear to God ? If you dont know how to do that refer to the Bhagavad Gita for the following verse “One who is not envious but who is a kind friend to all living entities, who does not think himself a proprietor, who is free from false ego and equal both in happiness and distress, who is always satisfied and engaged in devotional service with determination and whose mind and intelligence are in agreement with Me–he is very dear to Me.”

            So are the yugas of Hinduism in agreement with the scientifically calculated millions of years theory for age of earth. The whole of Christian community never believes in young earth theory and only certain people do just like other skeptic religions. The word war against different cultures and religions has always been a tried and true method of political maneuvering and I am reminded of a one liner by comedian Billy Connolly, “Hypocrisy is the Vaseline of political intercourse.” when viewing your answer. I have already given you more than you asked and at least try to care for other fellow human beings in other religions while not worrying about the barbarians (ISIS) in Islam and the Christian militants.

          • Kailash

            Oh, so you are that BIG defender of both Abrahamic Dogmatic religions?
            I have read thru Quran and Bible already so you don”t need to take the pain.
            Also,
            This ‘tolerance’ concept is the biggest non-sense I have ever heard.
            You go home and tell your father, mother, brother or wife that you are ‘tolerating ‘ them and see what kind of look you get.

            Tolerance is demeaning of one by the other, superiority of one over the other.
            “Mutual” respect is the way to go. Christianity and Islam do not and can not offer ‘mutual respect’ to others because there is fundamental flaw in Quran and Bible. Bible ask its adherents to see non-Christians as “heathens” means inferior hence Church demonizes non-Christian traditions.

            Quran commands its adherents to see all non-muslims as ‘kufar’ and finds nothing wrong even if ‘kufar’ gets killed by Muslims.

            My friend, you need to go to top powers who controls the Teachings of Quran and Bible and ask them these texts to be sanitized to stop the on-going mass-murder of humanity on a daily basis. Christian Church is the single largest entity that validates and spreads ‘cultural genocide’ throughout the world.

            Well established academic studies says the same things as I expressed above hence you must not take this as my personal biased opinion.

            Thank you and reflect to correct your own ‘blind spots’.

          • Pericles

            Its great you have read through the Bible and the Koran. Its absolutely true that traditional Indic religion and thought have not been taken seriously in modern intellectual life for a very long time and this is due to “relative dearth of non-Western thinkers” highlighted in Malhotra’s book ‘Being Different’. Its time we the Indian people change the great lethargy of Hindu civilization and drive future innovation by propagating ‘solution of synthesis’ to our fellow Hindu brethren since this cannot be achieved by mutual respect alone . Also friend try to read reviews by Gerald James Larson, Robert A. Yelle, Nicholas F. Gier and Brian Campbell on your quoted mutual respect theory from the International Journal of Hindu Studies.

            Tolerance is always needed when you live in another majority religious country which means you have to respect other cultures whether minor or major. Thats what cultured Indians have been doing for other religions such as Buddhism, Jainism, Islam and Christianity over centuries when its not the same case in the rest of the world. The words Kafir and Heathen are never uttered by a fellow Indian Muslim or Christian against Hindus or other religions that I have come across and its uttered only by misguided Mullahs and Papal priests who never know self respect which means respecting others is the first respect you can given yourself. Its sad that you are confused in your self referential paradox in the sense that your arguments which are used to show that Abrahamic violent traditions cannot simply be reduced or “digested” for one’s own purposes, also apply equally, alas, to your own position on Hinduism (violence and hate against other religions).

            Also try to come to a real dialogue here by being willing and open for self-criticism. When you cannot show those well established academic studies saying the same things which you claim to have expressed above, whats the use of reflection to correct blind spots. All that you can show is your cherry picked videos and commentary that Abrahamic religions are not tolerant when compared to Hinduism or other religions. So what about this kind of news – http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33241100. Should you as a neutral mutually respecting Indian ignore them and only see videos against Christian militants and Muslim terrorist propaganda. Its already well known that educated and modern Hindus, Christians and Muslims show mutual respect due to their influences from the Vedas, Gita, Bible and the Koran and we always welcome your views about the other person’s blind spots.

          • Kailash

            You are an expert at beating around the bush. Come straight to the point. Abrahmaic religions’ ‘unilateral exclusive claim to truth and God” stops them from extending ‘mutual respect’ to other Traditions.
            Hence they demonize Hindu,Sikh, Jain and Budhists traditions.
            You DON’T get to say what ‘Chrisitnity is and what it isn’t”, Vatican and other Christian Church Leaders have that “right ” and “power” and what they say is what i have shown you.
            You need to educate yourself more. Here is link that shows how this whole “hijacking and unilateral claim to one true god by Christianity started. Listen and think over.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0N5217_tmY

          • Pericles

            Oh trying to be still hypocritical by providing links with distorted views about Christianity which means there is no room for self criticism. Anyways it was a wonderful discussion which makes us conclude that we both need to educate ourselves more. That is the only fact we seem to agree upon and lets meet another time once you have learned the education motivated by ‘solution of synthesis’ which is researched as the best than what you are trying to preach to me !!!! So long, peace bro !!!!!!!!!

          • Kailash

            haha…Jonathan Kirsch’s views are distortion? You must be very allergic to truth and facts. Go get some meds.
            Here is some wise words from a World renowned Christian Scholar. Search yourself who that person is.
            ” Abrahamic Monotheism equals monopoly over the Concept of God ” which is what Christianity and Islam’s central idea is” hence these these religions will naturally remain hostile towards rest of the religions in the world.

          • Pericles

            Per Scott Barry Kaufman, Humility is considered very valuable character strength to have by most people, and is MUCH needed in these turbulent times both in our society and around the world. I feel humble on being directed to meds due to allergies by a certified allergist like you but your views just doesn’t appear to be a very good predictor of your own well-being. So get well soon from your illogical concepts about hostility towards other religions from world renowned scholars and keep taking your meds for blindness when viewing research evidence and propagation of lies. Remember, well-being in your own dark well of demanding self respect isn’t everything there is to life. Nevertheless, if you do seek true and self liberating high well-being, your best bets are gratitude and love of learning.

            I am grateful that I am an Indian born in India and that the country gave me the safe environment for learning and respecting all cultures and religions which is the essence of the Gita, the Bible and the Koran, the three greatest religions around the world. Its best to leave it as such and so in peace bro thanks for all your one sided wisdom and words which does not bring into light the neglected Hindu history of India and the final words to be exchanged between us would be living an ‘Indian Hindu’ life without hate or hostility towards your fellow beings is best for the society and the world !!!!

          • Kailash

            You are certainly a trained “Christian Missionary” hence you show delusion which is understandable. I know many of them and talk to them regularly.
            Hindu texts have no ‘hostility” towards any traditions and Dharma Teachers never teach any negative things towards other traditions.

            I have nothing against Bible or Quran. My only wish is that they (Christian Missionaries aka Crusaders ) stop calling Hindus as ‘heathens’ and ‘kufars’ respectively.
            They do, still in the 21st Century. Don’t thy? Now can you deny this as well ? or You don’t find anything wrong in it as you being blinded by Bible ideology? Where is your reason and logic? Where is your self-assessment and self-criticism?
            Conversion needs to be STOPPED IMMEDIATELY. It has to be made a criminal offense !
            As per United Nations convention, conversion activity should come under ‘cultural genocide”.
            Do you agree, mister humble ?

          • Pericles

            Oh Mister detective KC, your finding is pathetic since I am not both a trained Christian missionary by Bible ideology or a Islamic Mullah by Koranic ideology. Its wrong to assume you too as a trained VHP or BD fanatic just by your misguided words since its already known that Hindus themselves portray nonviolence and nonhostility like a buddhist or a Jain over millenia.

            I agree that if any true Jesus following Christian calls the other religions as Heathen or a PBU Muhammed following Muslim calls others as Kafirs, they should be certainly punished by Prevention of Atrocities act in the same way if a Hindu calls Dalit as a Shudra or treat him as an untouchable. The conversion activity of Christian or Muslims if done for wealth or money should come under cultural genocide of United Nations in the same way that Dalits are being harassed socio-economically, politically and culturally by the upper class Hindus through genocide, crimes against humanity and ethnic cleansing in the 21st century denying them their fundamental rights. Now can you deny this as a Hindu that these atrocities against Dalits are not happening any where in India in the 21st century in spite of introduction of a law for that as well and where is your reason, logic self-assessment and self-criticism when you think of this ? If self respect is provided by Hinduism to Dalits in the form of noncasteism, there would not be a need for conversion and do you Mr. Mutual Respect agree that the absence of self and mutual respect for a Hindu is one of the reasons along with the belief in the false promises of money and wealth that drives poor people to other religions from Hinduism ?

          • Kailash

            If you have dispute or fight with your brother or relative, would you convert to get justice ?
            Any problems of discrimination on any basis should be resolved by the Law and between People. White Missionaries have no right to invade our Nations and convert people just because their ‘bible’ says ‘heathen’ are lesser humans. This is my point.
            Look at this message from a White guy.
            Do you need his name and id?

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a31fac1875e1d409f3faa12c7166b4390434d0e62252dc6ff3beace85c5f664c.jpg

          • Pericles

            Point taken ‘White/black/Brown Missionaries have no right to invade our Nations and convert people just because their ‘bible’ says ‘heathen’ are lesser humans but we also think that the White Guy doesn’t know the meaning of forgiveness and reconciliation with your former enemies (ones who inflicted torture, cruelty and slavery) which is the basis for Christianity. Do you think converting to any other religion is only for benefits and not for anything else. This is not about the dispute or fight with a single brother or relative, its about the whole community. Dont you think I will convert if my own siblings, parents and relatives are killed by castesism and by my fellow religious people while it seems as the new religion offers me both protection and self respect ? Tell from your conscience if you think all problems of caste discrimination on any basis are resolved by the Law and between People after Independence 1947 and what about the Ahmedabad anti-reservation agitation in April 1985 when Harijans along with Muslims did not respond to bandh called to protest the reservation policy by the upper caste HIndu leaders which eventually led to the burning down of their houses and destruction of their property? Did this happen due to love and hate between brothers of Hinduism?

          • Kailash

            Whatever happens within the boundary of our Nation must be resolved within our Nation and its people.
            Foreigners and their ideology can never protect you, neither give you respect.
            The whole thing of Christian conversion is a scam of buying ‘mind-share’ so they can loot money from their own innocent members.
            This will open your eyes. Watch carefully.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg

          • Pericles

            So if the problems are not resolved within the boundary of our Nation by our own fellow people for the past 60 years, isnt a generation or life time lost in this problem. So why should anyone wait for his life to change, when he has a chance on the other side which alas for many people is a mirage in Islam and Christianity. When shall we have self respect and mutual respect in Hinduism based on character and not based on birth per the Vedas, should we wait for that too? So what is the solution?

          • Kailash

            If you really want to find out solution for our Nation, please read in full the book, “Breaking India” by Rajiv Malhotra. I can guarantee you , that book will give a lifetime purpose and a great career to pursue to help our Nation resolve its internal problems, and you will be admired, rewarded and awarded by our Nation. Many Dalit scholars are working on ‘social integration’ projects. I am not a upper caste Hindu and I find those who speak for Dalits like Converted Christians Kancha Illaaha disgusting and traitors, I hope you are not his follower.

            This is what Dr. BR Ambedekar said about Conversion and feared that conversion to Islam and Christianity will ‘de-nationalize’ our citizens so when he protested he chose to neo-Budhism which has no hostility towards Hindu, Sikh or Jain Traditions as these all four are from ‘One Dharma Family”.

            Read what Dr. Ambedekar wrote. Google search, you will find these words in many books written by Indian as well as Foreign writers decades ago.
            Here is link from a book. Read page 52.
            https://books.google.com/books?id=6ZsTgY1lNNsC&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=islam+or+christianity+will+denationalize&source=bl&ots=O2ze3J0wrj&sig=KrigtdnK1QEJs8dafPA-lfX_D48&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC8Q6AEwA2oVChMIq8rs0JK4xwIVQZWICh2QDAkg#v=onepage&q=islam%20or%20christianity%20will%20denationalize&f=false

          • Pericles

            Sure will read it KC but dont assume anyone based on a series of comments to be a follower of other’s (Kancha Ilaiah) ideals. Knowledge is vast like the sea and during each dive, you will find a different pearl which is not of inferior value to the next one. I am proud and happy to be Indian since there is no discrimination in this motherland and we have always maintained a harmonious relationship with other religious friends. There cannot be another country like India in this world where people are so much united despite the 2011 census which shows the population of Muslims in India has risen by 24% between 2001 to 2011 and we the civilized citizens like it to remain peaceful and grow to be the best in the world.

          • Kailash

            well, I agree that people of India (from all religions ) are peaceful and harmonious in nature but its the foreign money, ideological preaching and brainwashing and interventions via NGO that make our people divide and fight with each other. That is the goal of “Breaking India Forces” sitting on Foreign Lands.

            Indians belonging to all religions need to be aware of that and need to fight back.

            Read book “Breaking India” by Rajiv Malhotra where he names each one of these “Breaking India” people and their organizations.
            Look what is happening in the middle east countries where Muslims are killing fellow Muslims, even in Pakistan.

            Same thing can happen in India.

          • Pericles

            We too agree that its the money, ideological preaching and brainwashing utilizing ignorance of the innocent Indians that the thieves are utilizing, although i would not agree with the NGO comment (some NGOs do really help out the needy without any religious benefit when there’s government inaction). Its books such as Breaking India which bring to light these hateful actions and its also time Indians belonging to all religions are made to be aware of this truth. They should not still slumber in darkness which started from the 13th century in addition to made ignorant by the Mughal and British bandits and start putting the real ‘Hindu’ ideals into action !!!

          • KC

            Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

            Its so nice that you have consciously decided to remove ALL Christian words such as sin, God, Lord, Heaven, Religion, angels etc.

            Most English translations are filled with Abrahamic words which actually mislead English speakers, turn them back to Abrahamic concepts and stop them from learning the Dharmic concepts originating in Sanskrit non-translatable words.