Barack Obama

An Open Letter to President Obama on Religious Freedom

Dear President Barack Obama,

You spoke of religious freedom and in favor of the right to proselytize during your recent visit to India. Your words reflect the Christian West’s obsession with religious freedom. We Hindus have little doubt that when you talk of religious freedom you have the freedom of Christians to proselytize Hindus and not the freedom of Hindus to practice Hinduism in mind. In many Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia, a Hindu cannot even carry pictures of Hindu deities to worship in the confines of one’s home. You have never pontificated to the Saudis about the virtues of religious freedom. In the Christian Greece, it was illegal for a Hindu to cremate the dead until 2007 yet no American president pontificated to the Greeks. So, we rightly conclude that the religious freedom of Hindus is nowhere on your radar.

However, we are not asking you to stand up for our religious freedom. We are, instead, challenging your obsession with religious freedom. Let us begin by talking about some fundamental teachings of Christianity which you are presumably familiar with.

I did not render service. I have been responsible for genocide. It took me 18 years to realize that.

Christianity requires a groom to drag his bride on the nuptial night to her father’s doorstep and stone her to death on the suspicion that she may not be a virgin. It urges onlookers to participate in this violent orgy (Deuteronomy 22:13-21). Jesus sanctified and vowed to fulfill such terrible, misogynistic teachings (Matthew 5:17). We Hindus view the feminine as sacred and will not allow anyone the freedom to spread misogyny. We will not protect the alleged freedom of a misogynist at the expense of the dignity of a woman. We understand that you are not eagerly defending the freedom of the Taliban to spread Islamic misogyny in the USA. We are pleased to inform you that we Hindus will apply the same yardstick to Christian misogyny as well.

The Second Coming of Jesus is a core and fundamental Christian belief. On this occasion, Jesus would torture millions of Hindus for a period of five months, massacre them, and put them on the hell-bound cargo to be condemned to eternal torture (Revelations 9:4-5). Jesus also promises to make the Hindus kneel before the Christians in abject submission (see Hartung, John: Love Thy Neighbor – The Evolution of In-group Morality, pp. 15-16). We Hindus value human rights and will not grant anyone the freedom to spread genocidal hatred or subjugate others. You should be able to relate to our stance because you too aren’t advocating the freedom of Al Qaeda to spread genocidal hatred against Americans, are you?

 

Jesus Christ on the Cross

Misogyny, a craving to subjugate others, and genocidal hatred are poisonous. Giving them a religious sanctity doesn’t make them desirable. Karl Popper cautioned against the tendency to tolerate the intolerant because such a misplaced tolerance would result in the demise of the tolerant and eventually lead to the demise of tolerance itself. His sage advice applies to intolerant, hateful, and misogynistic religious beliefs such as Christianity and Islam. According such religious beliefs even a modicum of freedom would eventually degrade the feminine and extinguish freedom itself.

We Hindus value freedom; not merely freedom of religion as Western Christians mistakenly value. In our reasonable worldview, only freedom is a fundamental right whereas religious freedom is a privilege that is earned only when the religious teachings do not subvert freedom. A religion that subverts the very foundation of freedom and human dignity by advocating misogyny and genocidal hatemongering cannot be accorded that privilege.

In The Religious Crusades of the CIA, Arvind Kumar shows that ‘religious freedom’ is a euphemism for the CIA-led initiatives to destabilize Hindu society. The Tamil writer Jeyamohan shows how the Ford Foundation acted as the front for this imperial agenda by funding Christian missionaries in India’s northeast. These missionaries facilitated the entry of other western-funded groups which sowed division and hatred among the various ethnic groups that had hitherto coexisted for millennia. These imperial-funded and orchestrated initiatives resulted in gruesome riots, bloodshed, and massacre of many a thousand besides sinking the entire northeast into abject poverty. One of the missionaries that had facilitated the pillage eventually had a moment of realization and confessed to Jeyamohan, “I did not render service. I have been responsible for genocide. It took me 18 years to realize that.”

President Obama, we will not allow another genocide by facilitating the spread of imperial-funded Christianity. Instead, we will initiate every measure to curb it. We will bring forth legislation to prevent the CIA and its front agencies such as the Ford Foundation from destabilizing India. We will also prevent western powers from controlling the churches in India by nationalizing India’s churches and NGOs and by empowering the government to nominate priests. In the true spirit of democracy and freedom, and in the spirit of Indian pluralism, these priests would hail from all communities and religions as well as from among the ranks of atheists.

You may also anticipate legislative measures which would protect indigenous religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, and the various tribal religions. We would reverse the existing system which discriminates against indigenous religions while favoring Christianity and Islam. The state would fund institutions belonging to indigenous religions. We hope this idea would resonate with you; after all, the UK protects the Church of England and funds its educational institutions. America’s Christian churches are the leading beneficiaries of faith-based initiatives. So, this idea is no stranger to westerners.

We hope that not only Hindus and Indians but reasonable Americans too would laud these forthcoming initiatives. After all, a vibrant, democratic, and multicultural India is in the best interests of America as well. On the other hand, an India laid waste to by the predations of Christianity can only harm Indian as well as American interests. A patriotic American should be appalled by the fact that American textbooks indoctrinate defenseless children in Christianity. These textbooks portray Jesus as an embodiment of compassion. One would never tolerate a sanitized portrayal of a terrorist such as Osama bin Laden as compassionate. Yet, Jesus, who is indistinguishable from Osama bin Laden, is hailed as compassionate in textbooks. Such indoctrination is an abuse of the trust children place in adults. It is not only the mind of the American child that is abused. Defenseless children are subject to physical abuse as well because of their parents’ beliefs in biblical teachings. The Bible mandates the circumcision of the male child (Genesis 17). As a result, despite the progress in scientific knowledge, over 58 percent of American male children are subject to genital mutilations. These are examples of serious violation of a child’s freedom.

We hope that America ends such discriminatory practices by emulating the Indian example of curbing Christianity (as well as Islam) through legislation. We look forward to the day when America respects the freedom of a child to grow up unmolested in an environment nourished by reason. We hope you realize that the freedom of a child cannot be sacrificed to propagate Bronze Age superstitions.

Our ghar wapasi program is ready to embrace America’s recovering Christians.

Yours truly,

An imaginary Indian politician

PS: How I wish an Indian politician wrote such a letter! Alas, in all likelihood, an Indian politician or a lay Hindu is likely to appease the Western bully by pleading that India is doing a lot to ensure religious freedom and will do even more. They would then grant more freedom to the rapacious missionaries and foreign NGOs until India becomes another Philippines.

Kalavai Venkat is a Silicon Valley-based writer, an atheist, a practicing orthodox Hindu, and author of the book “What Every Hindu should know about Christianity.”
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  • Gopalakrishnan Chandrasekaran

    A very bold and powerful article! True Hindus who understand the
    philosophic depth and the greatness of India would surely enjoy this
    article. The fight against the religious invaders of India is now on
    and, just as the independence against the colonialists was won against
    great odds, this freedom too will be won. It is only a matter of time.
    Articles of this kind would fuel the passion of the true Hindus.

  • Ayya

    I wonder who reads these open letters? Other than Hindus who disagree with the POTUS statement. Wonderful article though.

  • BryonMorrigan

    I take my hat off to the author of this letter. Superb!

  • Shekhar Shandilya

    A murderer becomes hero in a criminal organisation not in a religious entity.Xavier in Goa murdered thousands of Hindus and he was declared a saint.To rub salt in festering wound of Hindus they are running a number of schools in his memory.

    The very symbol of cross is an embodiment of violence , blood-shed and slaughter.
    From third century onwards they started murdering Jews and followers of other religions calling them with derogatory nomenclatures like pagans heathens barbarians and some more.
    Christianity is not a religion but it is a blood thirsty ensemble of seven hundred thousand full time priests deployed to destroy remnant of religions of the world.
    Hinduism is the only religion having intellectual spiritual and theological foundation based on vast Vedic literature to counter the violent Bible and its followers.

    What the Hindus should do ?
    (1) We have to start teaching history of India since seventh century onwards in schools ,which was suppressed by Nehru in connivance with Communists-secularists

    The misogynist and misanthropist instructions of single Prophet single book religions have to be exposed in minute detail in contrast to our graceful nonviolent religion.

    (2) Create a federation of Non -Abrahamic religions which will include surviving native faiths of North and South America Australia Europe and Asia .

    Shekhar Shandilya.

  • matthew fofi

    Kindly know about my background, I am born western practicing Hinduism for the past 4 years, however I found some flaws in the article.
    Matthew 5:17 is saying that Jesus has come to fulfill the ‘Law’ or ten commandments. The first one being, ‘Though Shall not Kill’. How can this quote be put next to that line about stoning to death when it isn’t even in the same chapter?

    Revelations 9:4-5 is not a valid reference to Hindu’s being tortured by Christians.

    Deuteronomy 22:13-21 I feel is not to be taken literally and implied in the context to the average Hindu is living now. There are other passages in the text that say about stoning to death, but I feel that is for that time period and group of people to stop the people from sinning. Stoning people to death, what Christian even now-a-days does that? Nobody… Has anyone stoned their wife to death even in Christian countries, I doubt that.

    Jesus is not comparable to Osama Bin Laden. Jesus is actually a part Incarnation of God. Many things from those times people misunderstand and misinterpret. But it is not good to rationalise that Jesus Himself is a bad person and blindly take quotes from the Bible to support your argument.

    Ramakrishna an Indian Saint got a vision of Jesus and also praised Him. He says that all religions are true actually.

    H.H. Dr. Athavale even founder of Sanatan/FHA/SSRF has written a text on Spiritual Science in the Holy Bible described by Jesus to His disciples. It is very nice actually and to see this on Sanatan is contradicting.
    He even suggests those of Christian faith to chant ‘Hail Jesus’? Why? Because He is an Incarnation of God.

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    Yours truly,
    A pretend Christian Scholar
    it denigrates Jesus and the Bible though I don’t even practice Christianity and I practice Hinduism.

  • Rudra Narasimham Rebbapragada

    This is a diabolical plan to Divide and Rule India in the pretext of promoting Religious Freedom. It is important to know that the US fully supports Religious Fundamentalists and actively uses Sikh Separatists, and Kashmir Separatists to dismember the Republic of India to preserve its status of global Superpower. In this context, it is very significant to note that “THE DAL KHALSA” a radical Sikh organization is happy with US President Barack Obama’s call to India to uphold Religious Freedom.

  • I enjoyed this article and am glad it was written. I’m not sure though you make the case for the sensational statement that Jesus is ‘indistinguishable from Osama Bin Laden.’ It stands out as a bit of a nutty conclusion.

    • Kalavai Venkat

      Please click on the hyperlink in the word “indistinguishable” in the sentence “Yet, Jesus, who is indistinguishable from Osama bin Laden, is hailed as compassionate in textbooks.” It will take you to my other article where I make the case that Jesus is quite a genocidal maniac. If the delusional rants in the Bible as to what Jesus has in store for non-believers were to come true then Jesus would be orders of magnitude worse than bin Laden but I chose to treat the ‘Son of God’ with kid gloves in this article. 🙂

      • I read your article … which still does not make your case. Was Jesus a genocidal maniac during his life time? Has he returned as a genocidal maniac? Not that I know of. Prophecies about his return written AFTER his death may be greatly mistaken. Interpretations of this prophecy may be greatly misunderstood.

        • Kalavai Venkat

          We don’t have evidence that Jesus existed. In my book What Every Hindu Should Know About Christianity I make a decisive case that Jesus in all likelihood didn’t exist as a historical person. So, we are evaluating the Jesus of the NT. In that book, as my article shows, it is promised that Jesus would unleash a terrible genocide against non-believers including the Hindus. There is no doubt that the threat is delusional. In my book, I make an extensive case that Christianity was born in a psychotic milieu. However, this proves that this deluded system intends to commit genocide. So, the Jesus of the NT is guilty.

          • Chris

            I find your articles greatly appaling. You give a picture of christians that even the most orthodox are not living, just to make Hindus hate Christians. Jesus brought Love in the world, but not many have understood him. The stories you refer about are not his words and written by men that want to have power over others. You seem not to be able to look further than these old stories that are based on old schools, egyptian, jewish, etc. I find it annoying that you keep creating distance between Christians and others. I dont know why this website allows you to spread your poison.

          • Kalavai Venkat

            It is not my articles that you should find offensive because I cite the original source – the Bible, to demonstrate that Christianity is hate-filled. You should be offended that the Christians sanctify such a terrible book and worship a person like Jesus, who vowed to unleash violence against non-believers and advocated shunning and hubris of defenseless women. It is completely untrue that Christians don’t abide by such teachings. I challenge you to show me a single edition of the Bible from any of the top 100 mainstream Christian denominations that have excluded these horrible teachings from the Bible or have amended those. None. Show me a single denomination which rejected the demagoguery that Jesus spread. None. Show me a single Christian religious leader who agrees that at least going forward these horrible teachings should be rejected. None. Christians resist changing such hateful teachings because they consider them divinely ordained. However, since modern societies are based on progressive, anti-Christian values, Christians cannot stone a bride to death even if they wish. So, many are compelled to live lives of hypocrisy: they repudiate the advocacies of Jesus when it comes to practice but worship him at the same time. That is hypocrisy, which is not a virtue.

          • Did you ever read the Mahabharata? Are you hating Krishna because he is saying that there should be a fight?
            The bible is written in a time when these things were laws. Jesus had to balance between people, that would have killed him for what he said. Which eventually they did. You should look for his words of love, instead of badmouth him. Instead of alienating Christians from Jesus, you make them look better at the Bible verses and see how to interpret them in the spirit of the time that Jesus lived. Christians dont stone there wife, because they love them, not because of society.
            That is a gross statement. You can use as many words of hate, that wont change a thing. If you would advocate the love of Krishna, the strength of Hanuman and give insight to the Hindu religion, you might have more effect. Messages of hate are not well taken. The NT is written 300 years after Jesus lived. For me Jesus was the bringer of love in a dreadful time. At the same time I love all the Hindu writings like the Gita and the Vedas. I am glad I dont have to write in your way, so my heart keeps saved from darkness.

          • Kalavai Venkat

            Misogyny, racism, and terrorism, which Jesus advocated were immoral 2,000 years ago. They are immoral now. Stoning a defenseless woman to death in a violent orgy can never be considered moral under any circumstances. Christians don’t stone their wives because it is illegal and they would go to prison for that. If it is because they love their wives they would’ve repudiated the biblical verses that advocate stoning their wives to death. They wouldn’t be tithing the churches that endorse and distribute the Bible which sanctifies such hateful teachings against their own wives as divine mandate. They won’t be worshiping Jesus, who endorsed violent misogyny. Therefore, Christians are at best hypocrites and not someone who love their wives (unless they are ignorant of what Jesus really taught; in which case, my writings would help dispel their ignorance and help them reject Jesus).

            If Jesus endorsed such brutal laws fearing for life then he is a coward and a man of mediocre mettle. Why then worship him? You could very well worship the character of the army major in the movie Last of the Mohicans who sacrifices his own life to save the female protagonist. If you prefer an Indian equivalent, you could worship the young man who risked his life and fought for his female friend when she was sexually assaulted: http://indiawires.com/17375/news/national/reclaiming-the-sacred-feminine-in-the-aftermath-of-delhi-gang-rape/ . So, your excuses won’t fly. There was just no reason for Jesus to call non-Jews dogs and swine. Nobody forced him to say such things. He uttered those hateful on his own volition: http://indiafacts.co.in/a-caution-to-hindus-who-think-jesus-is-dharmic-or-a-saint/ .

            You also cannot get away by claiming that the New Testament was written over many centuries thereby implying that the hateful verses were later day interpolations. Indeed, the New Testament was written over many centuries. I have discussed that topic in depth in my book What Every Hindu Should Know About Christianity. There are, boradly speaking, two layers of teachings in the New Testament. In the first layer of teachings Jesus comes across as a rabid racist who hates all but Jews, a misogynist, and a violent terrorist who threatens to annihilate non-Jews. In the second layer of teachings, Jesus makes a U-turn and spews anti-Semitic hatred: (Beck, Norman A.: “Removing Anti-Jewish Polemic from our Christian Lectionaries, a Proposal,” http://jcrelations.net/en/?id=737 ).

            The first layer of teachings couldn’t have been later interpolations because it would have been impossible to spread hatred against the Gentiles, whom Christians were targeting for conversion, in the Roman Empire. Have you ever succeeded converting someone after calling them dogs and swine? So, the hateful verses have to be the earliest set of teachings. So, if you insist that Jesus indeed existed then you have no option but to accept that he uttered those hateful verses. The second layer of verses where he spews hatred at the Jews is evidently a later accretion because by then the Jews had been vanquished, there was a seething rage in the Roman Empire against the Jewish insurrection, and it was easy to convert the pagans (Gentiles) by spewing hate against the reviled Jew.

            On the other hand, if you accept that Jesus is a mythical character then stop glorifying him. You don’t nominate the non-existent pretty woman that only appears in your dream as the beneficiary of your life insurance, do you? You may ask why I criticize a mythical character. The answer is simple: I criticize the Jesus of the New Testament. An overwhelming majority of the Christians mistakenly believe that Jesus existed and consider the Bible as divine revelation. They treat it as immutable. Therefore, I am criticizing the Jesus of the New Testament. If you believe that Jesus isa myth, you should rather ask the Christians to stop worshiping a mythical character than get upset with me for stating the truth about Jesus.

            There are Hindus who bring out the positive teachings of Hinduism. We call it ghar wapasi. No, I don’t hate Kṛṣṇa because he doesn’t advocate terrorism or the stoning of a woman to death. He doesn’t call the people of other races dogs and swine. However, if he ever did that, I would reject him too. Now that the matter is settled, please join me in repudiating and rejecting Jesus.

          • Suchitra

            ‘Now that the matter is settled, please join me in repudiating and rejecting Jesus.’

            :)))

          • Kalavai Venkat

            You accuse me of writing articles only “to make Hindus hate Christians.” That is a blatantly false accusation. As I have articulated in my book and many articles, Christians are the foremost victims of Christianity. How can anyone hate the victims? One should empathize and sympathize with them. As I have repeatedly stated, my objective is to make both Hindus and Christians realize that Christianity is a false, evil, and harmful ideology; that Jesus of the NT is a cruel misogynist and violent hate-monger. Therefore, my objective is to make Hindus and Christians develop a reasonable disgust for Jesus. My objective is to save the Christians from the clutches of Jesus.

  • Jat

    This is a wonderful website and we should use these facts to confront the Hindu haters as well to educate the Hindus (and Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains) who are ignorant of the evil ways of Christian missionaries. (All Hindus know what Muslims are up to. They are just scared of Muzzies).

  • RVenkatanarayanan

    I think Barak Obama wanted to please fundamentalist Christians in the US anticipating the next Presidential Elections in which the Republicans will invoke fundamentalist support. Also Obama seems to have reserved this ill-considered advice to India as a parting shot, to balance the opinion in the wide world that he was going overboard in India and with the Indian PM. It is not only necessary to pass stringent laws in India against conversion by deceit, false promises and benefit in cash or kind ( use of the term ‘force’ is not good because it is very difficult to prove–witness the very few prosecutions). More and more field research like what Rajiv Malhotra and Neelakanrtan have done to produce “Breaking India” must be done and published in all national languages of India to expose the machinations of Missionaries, foreign and Indian. Hindus do not need any lecture from any one on accommodation, tolerance, acceptance, religious harmony and secularism.
    RVN

  • ccc

    higilighting obsolete christian practices only weakens our argument, instead how propogation is the same as Proselytisation and fradulant conversion of ignorant masses or increasing your numbers at the expense of others, this should be asked to obama. By raising the issues of christian missonaries obama has shown that he is just like other christians. they know no better than converting everybody to christianity.

  • Shrikant G Talageri

    Wonderful article. As you point out, Obama could start out by encouraging Al Qaeda (or the Taliban and the ISIS) to practice their religion freely in the USA, or even by advising Egypt to give religious freedom to the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Religious freedom within the USA, till one year after Indira Gandhi revoked the Emergency in India, is described in the following article in Wikipedia:

    “From the 1600s European Catholic and Protestant denominations sent missionaries to convert the tribes to Christianity. These efforts intensified during the mid 19th century through mid-20’th as US Government and Christian churches’ joint efforts forcibly registered Native Americans as Christians, which caused contemporaneous official government records (and sources that reference these government records) to show “Christianity” as the majority religion of Native Americans for the past 100 years. These forcible conversions often occurred through US government and Christian church cooperative efforts that forcibly removed Native American children from their families, and forcibly moved those Native children into a Christian-US government operated system of American Indian boarding schools (aka The Residential Schools) where
    Native children were indoctrinated in European Christian beliefs, mainstream American culture and the English language. This forcible conversion and suppression of Indigenous languages and cultures continued through the 1970s.[1][2][3] As part of the US government’s suppression of traditional Indigenous religions, most ceremonial ways were banned for over 80 years by a series of US Federal laws that banned traditional sweat lodge and sun dance ceremonies, among others.[4] This government persecution and prosecution continued until 1978 with the passage of the American Indian Religious Freedom Act (AIRFA).[5]” (Wikipedia entry on “Native American Religion”)

    Are we to believe that those American lawmakers who were enforcing the above “religious freedom” on the Native Americans suddenly had a complete change of heart in 1978 and started encouraging a revival of Native American religions?

    But you are being extremely optimistic, to the extent of being naive, if you seriously believe that the present Indian government will disregard the “advice” of their God from the USA, and instead undertake all the measures that you suggest.

  • reform uscirf

    It’s time for Indian establishment & media to show some courage and expose hypocrisy, & brazen lies, of bogus religious freedom commission. 23 articles exposing anti-Hindu double standard of USCIRF & psuedo Rel Freedom http://uscirf.blogspot.com/2014/07/articles.html

  • sighbaboo

    Fantastic Article! Since exclusivity is at their core, any space given to proselytizing faith-claims within our domain in the guise of religious freedom is akin to writing one’s own death wish. Very re-energizing article. Thanks for writing.

  • Radha Rajan

    So why exactly did Modi invite :Barack” as chief guest? Modi could have spoken abt racism in the US when he met “Barack” for chai at the white house. And as Modi and “Barack” tango, it will be interesting to see how Modi will Tango with one leg in “Barack”s” orbit and the other in BRICS. Not once did “Barack” address Modi as NaMo or Narendra or Naren. Of course “Barack” raised religious freedom. The white house no matter democrat or republican is controlled by the Pentagon and the US State dept. Anyone who thinks ‘Barack” can romance Modi without the US State Dept chaperoning them both is hallucinating.

  • VeVePe

    I think it would be better to focus on the crimes and he political agenda of the missionaries and their sponsors, rather than stuff like Deuteronomy which nobody cares about.

    The article on the religious crusades of the CIA, linked to above, is the kind of approach which will be best.

    However the Nicene creed should be discussed, that is what leads to a lot of intolerance and bigotry.