A caution to Hindus who think Jesus is dharmic or a saint
Normally, several well-known or otherwise Hindu gurus make some common claims about Jesus which typically go along these lines::
1. The most significant aspect of Jesus’ teaching was “living without prejudice, without seeing who is yours and who is not yours.”
2. His teachings have brought “much sacrifice, piety and love to the world, but the crux of his teaching is, “The Kingdom of God is within you.””
Now such Hindu gurus also disclaim that they are referring to a historical Jesus but to the alleged potential for the highest form of self-realization one has within. Therefore, let us set aside the question of historicity of Jesus and instead focus on the Jesus of the Bible since that book is presumably the source from where these Hindu gurus glean information about Jesus. I will show that such claims are factually incorrect and betray ignorance of Christian teachings.
Jesus, a highly prejudiced racist and misogynist
Jesus was a thorough racist who was prejudiced against anyone that was not a Jew. The Bible (Matthew 15:21-28 and Mark 7:24-30) narrates a chilling episode. Jesus was a faith-healer. A Gentile (non-Jew) woman once begged him to cast away the demon that had possessed her daughter. Needless to say, demons do not exist and faith-healing is an act of fraud. These verses reveal that Jesus the faith-healer was no less a charlatan than today’s evangelical faith-healers such as Benny Hinn or Pope Francis that prey on the fear and ignorance of the gullible.
These verses also reveal the racist and prejudicial side of Jesus. He cold-heartedly told the woman that only the Jews were his children and that the Gentiles were dogs. He wouldn’t heal a dog. The desperate woman accepted her unexpectedly bestowed upon canine status and knelt down in front of Jesus in abject submission. She pleaded that he show the dog mercy. Only then Jesus relented. It would be extremely hard to find another religious figure that displayed such racism and prejudice as Jesus did toward a woman and her child in distress.
As John Hartung decisively demonstrates in Love Thy Neighbor: The evolution of in-group morality, pp. 15-16, Jesus vowed to make the heathens kneel down before the Jewish-born Christians in abject submission. Jesus vowed (Matthew 5:17) to fulfill draconian and misogynistic biblical injunctions such as the one which requires a groom to drag his bride on the nuptial night and stone her to death on the suspicion that she may not be a virgin. Onlookers are urged to participate in this violent orgy.
[pullquote]Jesus told that only the Jews were his children and that the Gentiles were dogs. [/pullquote]
These examples should make it clear to any reader that Jesus was a highly prejudiced racist and misogynist. Some Hindu gurus strangely, interpret these as teachings that call for “living without prejudice, without seeing who is yours and who is not yours.”
Jesus, the Apocalyptic Prophet
Leo Tolstoy disliked core Christian teachings. However, instead of rejecting Christianity, he disingenuously exculpated it by selectively portraying the Sermon on the Mount as the epitome of the Christian message. As Bart Ehrman has shown (Jesus Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible, pp. 77-78), not only is the Sermon on the Mount a very late interpolation into the Bible but its message is not one of inward perfection as in the Yoga. Its message is apocalyptic; Jesus expected the end of the world to happen very soon. The verse actually means that the coming Kingdom of God is there and present among the Jewish Christians that were his contemporary followers. In this racist teaching, Gentiles are excluded from that kingdom. However, Tolstoy preferred to rather indulge in a sleight of hand than honestly interpret the verse.
The result was a dishonest book, The Kingdom of God is Within You, in which Tolstoy gave the apocalyptic Jesus a complete botox-like makeover and transformed him into a contemplative teacher who sought perfection within as a Hindu yogi does. Many unthinking Hindus, starting with Mahatma Gandhi, have popularized this propagandist story without realizing that it serves to disarm and proselytize unsuspecting Hindus. In the article, Jesus Christ and the Impending Genocide, I have shown that the apocalypse entails the genocide of billions of non-Christians.. Is it too hard for Hindu gurus to comprehend that an anticipation of a violent, genocidal apocalypse as the end goal of religion is the very opposite of the peaceful inward perfection that characterizes yoga?
Lest one should think that Christian violence is merely fantastic and limited to prophesies, it is worth remembering that Christianity has been responsible for numerous genocides throughout history. In recent decades, the virtually complete annihilation of the Tutsi in Rwanda was the direct result of the hatred sowed and nurtured by the Church. In the words of Timothy Longman (Christianity and Genocide in Rwanda, p. 3), “People came to mass each day to pray. Then they went out to kill.”
Omer Bartov and Phyllis Mack show (In God’s Name: Genocide and Religion in the Twentieth Century), Christianity has been culpable of many a genocide in the 20th century alone, most prominently the Holocaust of six million Jews. Nazis derived their anti-Semitism directly from the Bible. They subsidized the works of the demagogue Martin Luther and were inspired by the anti-Semitism that was inseparable from the Catholic and Protestant teachings. In the same anthology, Doris Bergen (Between God and Hitler: German Military Chaplains and the Crime of the Third Reich, pp. 123-134) shows that Christian chaplains rationalized the Holocaust.
[pullquote]Leo Tolstoy disliked core Christian teachings. However, instead of rejecting Christianity, he disingenuously exculpated it by selectively portraying the Sermon on the Mount as the epitome of the Christian message.[/pullquote]
It is hard to fathom how Hindu gurus could interpret this history of religiously-inspired carnage and genocide as the ushering in of “love to the world.” It is best for these gurus to take such violent injunctions in Christian scripture at face value and not interpret them using Hindu lenses.
The ignorance of the colonized Hindu mind
Even a cursory knowledge of the Bible and Christian history would enable Hindu gurus to correct such deeply flawed opinions of Jesus. However, I would argue that the ignorance displayed in some cases is willful and representative of a behavioral pattern prevalent among the Hindus. Not only Hindu gurus but numerous Hindu religious leaders, activists, and intellectuals are guilty of fabricating this fantastic imagery of Jesus and propagating it.
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In many popular books, some Hindu intellectuals assume the dual role of the Holy Ghost and the Holy Virgin, and miraculously give birth to an imaginary Jesus, endow him with dharmic attributes, and put him on a pedestal and some even announce that the Emperor Constantine seized “the dharmic message of Jesus and turned it into a political weapon.” Of course, this is a fantastic claim because there is nothing dharmic about racist teachings that foretell genocide. Bart Ehrman has resolutely shown (Truth and Fiction in the Da Vinci Code) that Constantine neither knew much about Christian teachings nor modified anything. Such claims merely represent a Hindu tendency to exculpate Jesus by scapegoating someone else for the horrible Christian teachings. It needs to be repeated that the final aim and the core teachings of Christianity is to devour non-Christian faiths using every means, fair and foul including genocide.
[pullquote]Christianity has been responsible for numerous genocides throughout history.[/pullquote]
Why then do influential Hindus continually attempt to portray Jesus as dharmic and cast him in the image of a Hindu yogi in defiance of well-established facts? The reasons are two-fold:
- Ignorance of serious scholarship that sheds light on the nature of Christianity and its violent history.
- Some of these Hindu opinion-makers are representative of their followers: ill-informed, intellectually-lazy, and too eager to take the path of least resistance to acquire fanfare.
As a result of two centuries of Christian colonial rule, most urbanized Hindus have been sumptuously fed a sanitized image of Jesus and Christianity. Their colonized minds have yet to acquire a reasonable worldview and enlightenment. They often resort to censorship to silence an informed opinion that presents the inconvenient truth. This creates a self-serving mechanism that propagates absurd fantasies.Such minds rejoice in the deluded belief that Jesus was a yogi.
I have not named Hindu gurus because I generally desist from criticizing Hindu religious leaders and organizations. I am appreciative of the good work these Hindu gurus are doing otherwise. The criticism I have leveled in this article are limited to their opinion of Jesus. I honestly believe that such criticism is necessary because many Hindu gurus express variants of this ignorant opinion of Jesus. I hope this article would help such gurus self-correct. The same reason is applicable to Hindu intellectuals, as well.
Hindu tradition has countless examples of sages who have attained inner perfection. If a Hindu guru or intellectual wants to discuss inner quest, he could easily invoke one such example from Hindu lore and/or history. Jesus was not an embodiment of wisdom or inner quest by any stretch of imagination. Hindu gurus and leaders should either form their opinion of Jesus based on reason and rigorous scholarship or entirely ignore invoking his example as he is irrelevant to dharma except as a threat.
Those who criticize Jesus Christ must be better than him by every moral and spiritual standard. It appears that there are so many people in the world who are better role models than Jesus. May be a new Bible must be written so that all those who claim to be better models than Jesus will be better known and followed even by Christians.
Dont listen to other people(like pastor,etc) talk about chritianity guys…….Read the bible yourself and see the truth……
I enjoyed reading the above article and found it entirely true…..Reaserch yourself
Enjoyed the article but the statement “Nazis derived their anti-Semitism directly from the Bible ” needs a citation. I would like to see upon what that statement was founded. Not a criticism just a point of clarification
Please write a book called, what hindus need to know about other religions to guard themselves.
I mean this very very seriously.
Jesus seems to be a yogi rather, according his habits which Western people have difficulties to understand fully, although we don’t know how much the Bible is manipulated also. As well the Indian yogis loved Jesus and wrote books about him. The Western psychics, channelers, remote viewers also commonly claim Jesus spent years in India. All these people yogis and psychics have good intuition, intellectually it might be much more difficult to know. Here I found from both yogis and psychics; http://beforeitsnews.com/spirit/2016/05/jesus-and-israel-never-die-2502435.html
Most of the Hindu Gurus believe in the unity of all religions. My guess is that most Hindus do not care about the history of Jesus or bother to look too much about him because there is nothing surprising or doubtful about someone being a holy saint.
This book compares Bible with Upanishad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Sciencehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Science
Sri Ramana said,
Christ is the ego. The cross is the body. When the ego is crucified, and it perishes, what survives is the Absolute Being, and this glorious survival is called Resurrection.
http://www.arunachala-ramana.org/forum/index.php?topic=5060.0
And many other Saints have spoken on Christianity in similar terms.
http://www.kamakotimandali.com/sringeri/vilasa_4.html
Here’s an interesting conversation where Sri Mahasannidhanam literally rips apart a priest with logic but still has the magnanimity to say
“Your religion is the greatest for you and so is mine for me. Everyone should sincerely practice his own religion. It is incorrect to claim one’s own religion as the only way for liberation and accuse other religions as doorways to hell.”
Finally, here’s what Kanchi MahaPeriava had to say on Christianity and proselytisation,
There is no question (about the undesirability of) about religions, who draw and convert people by force or money. By performing many social services, personal helps and instant initiation into their fold, the unsophisticated people necessarily fall for them. It is said that famine was the cause of spread of Christianity. It is a commonly held view that Islam spread against the wish of people under the duress of force. Tattvas had no part to play in the conversion process in these instances. Take a note of this. The proselytizers tried to convert the oppressed classes. They told the would-be proselytes about their low status within the Hindu caste hierarchy, their rise in status with conversion to Christianity, and free education and healthcare, all under the authority of government of that day. Some oppressed classes decided to tolerate the deplorable conditions of their natal religion, considered all the benefits reprehensible and did not buckle under the pressure of proselytization. Let us keep this virtuous conduct as the reason for resistance by the side for now. The appearance of great men in our religion periodically, encouraged people including the oppressed classes to stay resolute in their natal religion.
We should not despise or hate the proselytizers. Is it not their trust in the (supposedly) Supreme Truth in their religion that prompted them to convert people by force, inducement or charm? Let us give credence to their supposedly good intentions to convert people with force and charm offensive as necessary (evils) for a greater good.
Barring the use of force or the power of money, all religions grew from the strength of the characters of Gurus, instructors, propagandists. It is not enough for the leader of a religion to give a pose of pristine outward appearance. There should be a plenitude of good behavior and austerity with absence of hatred. He should be brimming with quietude and compassion. These special qualities in a Guru eliminate the deficiencies and defects of the seekers.
To create such noble men is our priority for the thriving growth of our religion. There is no need for counter propaganda. We need leaders who live a life of religious virtue. Because of them (noble Virtuous Souls), ours is a living religion over millennia. It could live into the future by these (virtuous and godly men and women). If someone decides to convert by force, there is no sense in using counter force.
If one uses millions upon millions of rupees building schools and hospitals as an inducement to convert people, we do not have that kind of resources to match his largess. If we were to assume we have that kind of resources, the contrived change is neither genuine nor sustainable. It is so because others with more brawn and wealth would destroy what we built and declare victory over us. Therefore, forgoing trust in the external power, we should put trust in Atma Sakti (the power of self) and elevate ourselves. Then, Hindu religion will thrive without the spurious benefit from propaganda, war, and fascination. Now, the learned in the foreign countries keep Advaitam in their focus and hold it in high regard, probably because of the greatness of its doctrines. They have conducted unbiased examination and research and come to embrace Advaita Vedanta, which just does not fit the uninformed public. A superior soul of a man is necessary to make them grasp Advaita Vedanta.
I give these religious instructions with the hope that a person of tranquility, compassion, wisdom, self- sacrifice… will make his appearance among us.
Whether Hindus care or not, the reality to change. Hindu speaking for other religions is hilarious at best.
Some one has said” Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool”
I have question what about the Gnostic scriptures ? As per the Gnostic scriptures Jesus does seem to be a Yogi
Not really Shriram. Those texts portray Jesus as selling his twin Thomas into slavery for a mere three silver coins! That qualifies Jesus as a basement bargain sibling slave trader and not as a yogi.
I used to be under the delusion that all religions lead to the same goal, now I realise that both the Islamic and Christian theologies are fundamentally unable to provide any respect, I will need to research the Gnostic Gospels in either case your case would’ve been stronger had you quoted Jesus’s words of “Either you’re with me or against me”.
Human race and the REPTILIAN connection.
During
my childhood I had the opportunity to watch some Nagin movies and I
used to find the thought of shape shifting reptilian race(Itchadhari Nagin) amusing and would dismiss the thought as fictional entertainment.
I was flummoxed when I learnt the truth about our modern human race.Here is my understanding:
Zecariah
Sitchin had decoded the ancient Sumerian text in which he found that
the existing Homosapien species was created by the Annunaki( a reptilian
race) who genetically engineered the Homo erectus species by merging
both DNA’s. The Annunaki had come to earth 450000 years ago from a
planet in the Orion constellation.They came mining for gold and realised
they needed to create a slave race to carry out their activities.
Some of the reptilian influences on our lives can be clearly noted below:
Why is the human intestine in the shape of a serpent?
Why is the human DNA in the shape of a serpent?
Why does the medical symbol have 2 serpents on either side of the staff?
Why is the kundalini (seat of power or Shakti) present in every human being in the form of serpent coil?
The
serpent according to bibilcal scriptures was responsible for tempting
Eve to eat a fruit from the tree of knowledge after which they were
thrown out of Eden.The serpent race was cursed to live underground by
the bibilcal God?
Why
two of the most powerful Vedic gods have serpents around them. One on
his neck and other is seen lying down on a serpent bed.
Why does the horoscope have an accursed provision called Kalsarp dosha? Why no Machchar Dosha or Cockroach dosha?
In
the Mahabharata why did Krishna tell Arjun to go underground and
destroy the serpent race before constructing Indraprastha? Later the
serpent king Takshak tries to avenge this by attacking Arjun in the
Mahabharata war. Krishna saves Arjun.
Recently
the authorities found underground chambers below the padmaswamy temple
in South India. One such chamber is expected to store divine weapons
Nagpanchmi is a festival celebrated in India.
The
ancient vedic texts confirm the existence of Naglok(see Hollow earth
image on Google).Many modern day scientists and research scholars
confirm the existence of a subterranean reptilian civilization to this
day.
http://www.truthism.com
Hilarious! Venkat at his outrageous best! So I suppose Swami Vivekananda was just another “ignorant” Hindu when he said the following lines:
“The Hindus would welcome the Christ of the Christians gladly, because his life was holy and beautiful; but they cannot and will not receive the narrow utterances of the ignorant, hypocritical or self – deceiving men.”
“I pity the Hindu who does not see the beauty in Jesus Christ’s character. I pity the Christian who does not reverence the Hindu Christ”
When someone of Swamiji’s stature has said that, then who are you?
Don’t take my word for it, just refer to: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Complete_Works_of_Swami_Vivekananda/Volume_8/Notes_Of_Class_Talks_And_Lectures/Christianity_In_India
Typical missionary fraud that you employ, unable to counter the author. Don’t try authoritarian tricks by quoting big names, Joseph. Present factual counters if you have. For each Vivekananda you quote I can show a million historic facts as counter examples: your track record of barbarism at Goa, Americas, Germany and whatever frauds your ilk are doing all over the world especially east Asia.
Who wants to counter anyone? I mean, firstly, the only reason I was reading this was for pure entertainment purposes only. I mean come on, after a long, hard day’s work, you need stuff like this to soothe your nerves! And secondly, even if I DID feel the need to counter his “assertions” (which I don’t btw) it would be totally pointless, since the author has already made up his mind (from these and previous works of his) that Jesus was one big Jewish mofo with a gang of faithful boyfriends whom he called his “apostles”, and Christianity is the religion of paedophiles and rapists (not to mention pederasts). Where’s the point or sense in arguing with such a person with such a closed and parochial mind? If the author wishes to use the internet as a Christian-hate spewing laxative, then who am I to stop him? After all, better out than in, right? 🙂
And you, Jishnu, are no slouch in the entertainment department either! 🙂 “Barbarism in Goa”, “America” etc etc. The same Sanghi cards over and over again. Why do Sanghis almost never get it that not just Hindus, but also Christians, Jews, Muslims and even many Europeans died in the Inquistition? Or do they conveniently forget this? And why does a Christian name automatically bring to mind the “M” word? 🙂 Just so you know, EVERY Christian isn’t born with the missionary gene, and no, such a gene doesn’t exist! 😉 The reason I quoted Swami Vivekananda was because, by his own admission, he was an avowed admirer of Christ, his hatred and revulsion to conversions notwithstanding.
So go ahead and quote your “million” examples! (assuming that you DO have nothing better to do)! 🙂
Just a drop of a line. Being lovely, calm, quiete, composed does not make a rascal saint! Knowledge is what makes saint a saint!
Seriously, any Christian worth his/her salt will laugh out loud at this author’s outrageous claims. This is someone who has used a DISCOVERY CHANNEL documentary (among other “reliable” material) to prove that Christ never lived! And you want us to take him seriously? LOLZ!
In my book, I discuss the alleged historicity of Jesus on pp. 52-63, 70-91, and 91-110. Not a single reference cited in those pages is from the Discovery Channel. Not that citing Discovery would be wrong if what they state is valid but in this case Joseph is simply lying. Unfortunately, I encounther this kind of unethical behavior among Christians when they have no counter to my arguments. Since there is no injunction against lying in Christianity, they feel no qualms about lying.
Why on earth would I want to counter you??? Countering someone means you have a problem with what they are saying. As a responsible American, you have every right to abuse and slander Jesus all you like. I do it sometimes. But it’s funny when Hindus do it, outrageous actually! Just don’t let them Republicans hear what your saying! 😉
Just like there missionary fraud, so there are Anti-Christ (like @kalavaivenkat:disqus) who think they have scholared the Holy Bible.
Such people (including you ) are scholarly douche 🙂
I wonder what is the purpose of Kalavai Venkat being in Silicon Valley (USA) to convert Christians 😛
Maybe he should contemplate coming to India back.
Swami Vivekananda also remarked that whenever a Hindu is converted to Christianity or Islam, it not not merely a Hindu less but an enemy more. Would you agree with that assessment? I would because there Vivekananda was being accurate.
I hold Vivekananda in high regard. But I do not hero-worship him. He was a man of immense stature and served India commendably. But he was very much human and vascillated in his assessment of Jesus, sometimes being correct and at other times incorrect. The quote you’ve cited is one such occsion when he was entirely incorrect. Leaving the historicity of Jesus aside, if one were to judge him by the narrative of the NT, one has to reach the reasonable conclusion I have reached in the article.
Yes I would absolutely agree, given the day and age they lived in.
Thank you for agreeing. I have argued in my book that ths assessment is applicable at all times.
ok, so its not by his own character but by the certificate of Swami Vivekanand we should respect the Josua. And yes, all Christian are also following his teaching by treating kidney stones by praying, converting by money, sponsoring terrorists in NE India to kill non-Christians.
“Respect the Josua” Hahahah you are a treat, aren’t you? And where did you get those other precious gems from? Organizer? Sudarshan News?
Jesus ‘s life might have been beautiful but not Christianity which was created after Jesus
No way Jesus is a Fake creation of the lustful gospels ably aided by their supporters.there is not even a Single proof that the faker Existed……..No records , No mention from his contemporaries , No evidence……Ab initio he is a FAKE
Yes,
Jesus of Nazareth is largely a creation of the Romans. New Research says he did not exist.
Dr Shubhangi
Good for me, I found you too. You don’t know me. But something I wrote to Sumathi just now is for you too.
(I’ve read several of your comments over time. From memory I think you were the commenter who owned to being a bit older. Even though the west is targetting younger generations of women with this issue, awareness of married women concerning the following — and any future activism in raising awareness among other Indic females — will greatly help.)
I planned to contact several fellow women whom I’ve seen active for The dharma on here and on Swarajyamag, to request that you read some IMO important links that I’d pasted in a series of numbered comments over at swarajyamag: one, two, three especially, and four, five, six.
You don’t need to read my comments on that page, since the links in the above 6 comments (which concern east Asian society) should make the problem transparent to you, without needing to additionally read my views on why the same is also a threat to our country. (Though Hindu women women won’t fall for it, since we’re not idiots or traitors, but secular “progressive” Indian women especially “minority” types will, and even this can have a nasty effect on overall Indian society.)
You don’t need to agree with anything I’ve ever said or may say hereafter. I’m just asking you to
1. read the links at the 6 comments (be forewarned some of them are huge discussions between east Asian Americans); and
2. if you think this may be a problem too, I request you to take a stand whenever the issue rears its ugly head, and to inform your female friends to also contemplate it and take a stand.
Moreover, this is the one area where only Hindu women can protect Hindu men and all Hindu society. Hindu men cannot say anything on this subject, as they will be shouted down by the Deepika “My Choice” Padukone types, not to mention the (crypto) monotheists — the usual suspects in the ELM.
But if Hindu women, especially young women, took a proactive stand against the social engineering problem that is being set up against Indian society, and which is thus starting to rear its head, then the cryptos in the ELM can’t try to frame the alleged “Hindu patriarchy” as they usually do.
Hindu women are the only ones who can say anything and not be shouted down by the crypto agents like India’s ELM.
This is early stages, so things are not as bad as among east Asian emigres. And with any luck, proactive Hindu women can raise sufficient awareness among their own kind so that the same can be prevented from affecting any of our own. Then it will just be the monotheists’ problem.
Hindu women need to protect Hindu men. The attack against our men is in reality an attack on Hindu society and our heathenism, hence us no less. Our men are being attacked by the west and their agents in India because Hindu men have been circled out as being the visible resistance. So they want our men neutralised by character assassinating them and dividing them from us. But Hindu men are not at all the only ones resisting, of course, which is where the west and its Indian minions have made their grave mistake, because they forgot to count us (the other 50% of Hindudom) as their primary enemy too. But our men’s hands are tied in this and all subjects concerning women, and they are moreover being badmouthed and silenced by being framed under the concocted “oppressive Hindu patriarchy” and disproportionate reporting on rape to make India “rape central” and blame Hinduism (via Hindu men) for it. Being silenced in this manner, Hindu men cannot protest, since they are tarred in one brush stroke and their characters assassinated, and then they cannot defend our heathenism. And if they fall, we all fall.
This is the instance where Hindu men can’t protect themselves at all. Hindu women need to protect Hindu men. Hindu men are crucial in our fight against the monotheism and the western patriarchy’s oppression of & monotheism’s conspiracy against heathen people including heathen women and heathen children.
The attack against our men will grow in time. More native voices will be hired for it, including the usual suspects and their clones. Not just women but also Indian male “feminists” who imagine that by passing the blame off on Hindu men–and thus Hinduism as “patriarchy”–they will be seen as the good guys.
Hindu women need to be prepared for this. Therefore, please read the links pasted at the 6 comments to know how bad east Asians have suffered from what the west/monotheism is conspiring to repeat against our population. (Some of the links will make it quite obvious to you that the pattern of attack is exactly the same and that therefore there is no “coincidence” involved but that it is entirely premeditated.)
Sumathi,
I planned to contact you, and a few other fellow women whom I’ve seen active for The dharma on here and on Swarajyamag, to request that you read some IMO important links that I’d pasted in a series of numbered comments over at swarajyamag: one, two, three especially, and four, five, six.
You don’t need to read my comments on that page, since the links in the above 6 comments (which concern east Asian society) should make the problem transparent to you, without needing to additionally read my views on why the same is also a threat to our country. (Though Hindu women women won’t fall for it, since we’re not idiots or traitors, but secular “progressive” Indian women especially “minority” types will, and even this can have a nasty effect on overall Indian society.)
You don’t need to agree with anything I’ve ever said or may say hereafter. I’m just asking you to
1. read the links at the 6 comments (be forewarned some of them are huge discussions between east Asian Americans); and
2. if you think this may be a problem too, I request you to take a stand whenever the issue rears its ugly head, and to inform your female friends to also contemplate it and take a stand.
Moreover, this is the one area where only Hindu women can protect Hindu men and all Hindu society. Hindu men cannot say anything on this subject, as they will be shouted down by the Deepika “My Choice” Padukone types, not to mention the (crypto) monotheists — the usual suspects in the ELM.
But if Hindu women, especially young women, took a proactive stand against the social engineering problem that is being set up against Indian society, and which is thus starting to rear its head, then the cryptos in the ELM can’t try to frame the alleged “Hindu patriarchy” as they usually do.
Hindu women are the only ones who can say anything and not be shouted down by the crypto agents like India’s ELM.
This is early stages, so things are not as bad as among east Asian emigres. And with any luck, proactive Hindu women can raise sufficient awareness among their own kind so that the same can be prevented from affecting any of our own. Then it will just be the monotheists’ problem.
Hindu women need to protect Hindu men. The attack against our men is in reality an attack on Hindu society and our heathenism, hence us no less. Our men are being attacked by the west and their agents in India because Hindu men have been circled out as being the visible resistance. So they want our men neutralised by character assassinating them and dividing them from us. But Hindu men are not at all the only ones resisting, of course, which is where the west and its Indian minions have made their grave mistake, because they forgot to count us (the other 50% of Hindudom) as their primary enemy too. But our men’s hands are tied in this and all subjects concerning women, and they are moreover being badmouthed and silenced by being framed under the concocted “oppressive Hindu patriarchy” and disproportionate reporting on rape to make India “rape central” and blame Hinduism (via Hindu men) for it. Being silenced in this manner, Hindu men cannot protest, since they are tarred in one brush stroke and their characters assassinated, and then they cannot defend our heathenism. And if they fall, we all fall.
This is the instance where Hindu men can’t protect themselves at all. Hindu women need to protect Hindu men. Hindu men are crucial in our fight against the monotheism and the western patriarchy’s oppression of & monotheism’s conspiracy against heathen people including heathen women and heathen children.
The attack against our men will grow in time. More native voices will be hired for it, including the usual suspects and their clones. Not just women but also Indian male “feminists” who imagine that by passing the blame off on Hindu men–and thus Hinduism as “patriarchy”–they will be seen as the good guys.
Hindu women need to be prepared for this. Therefore, please read the links pasted at the 6 comments to know how bad east Asians have suffered from what the west/monotheism is conspiring to repeat against our population. (Some of the links will make it quite obvious to you that the pattern of attack is exactly the same and that therefore there is no “coincidence” involved but that it is entirely premeditated.)
Well , Cornering ,Targeting & Attacking the WEAK LINKS are the most CUNNING PLOYS of the Xtian morons……….Indian women off course have a misplaced Notion of Feminist rights & Women empowerment ,I my self did my M.Phil on Womens studies & Empowerment ……….Where there is complete artificialness , ie the Women studying or the Lecturers/Professors are completely trying(pretending) to the ape the West while completely disowning Our Traditional values ( the most comical(good) part is they do this only on the campus , when they go home they live the Indian way 🙂 , but the point to be taken is they are Confusing rather poisoning Most of the Younger Minds & Generations with these Western ideologies)……..Coming to the point , I think the only way to get out of this Menace of the Xtian parasites is to really ban them , No matter what be the consequence , One cannot allow this Hatredness to keep on Spreading ,What we are doing now is that ,We are allowing ourselves to get infected fully knowing well the consequences of the VIRUS(Aptly we can compare them to the HIV , which makes us to fight against our Own Cells ) ,……….. Most of the Women getting converted to the Xtian Cult paves the way for the next level of Destruction that has been happening in the East Asian nations now ……….With the Neutralisation( Extermination (of the False ideologies)) of the Communists/Missionaries/Secular politicians/Fake Intellectuals & the so called Self declared Women rights activists(most of them are on the payroll of the White masters) things will get back to Normal………off course we got to Unite to fight this Menace ,
Exactly. Just so.
But why did you waste your intelligence on “Women’s studies” of all things? Was it to study the ways of the enemy?
Otherwise our people should be encouraged to go into the sciences or become trained in the traditional arts (or both preferably). The nonsense subjects like Women’s Studies can be left to the monotheists and other “seculars” who clearly can’t manage anything more sensible. That’s what 3rd world converts are for any way: the west doesn’t want them to compete and keeps them stupid for a reason.
(Media studies is useful if it generates Hindu journalists who work for the cause by breaking the crypto ELM’s carefully maintained silence on the monotheist genocide of Hindus and other Indics in the subcontinent.)
Sumathi, somewhere on that page that I linked to, there are some comments by one Prem Dhan requesting me to write on that topic. (I explained there why I didn’t want to.)
But as you are a female Hindu activist immune to the monotheist gender manipulations too, and because you moreover possess Poorva Paksha in Women’s Studies, you might be more ideally suited to be the one to write on the subject. (However, I must warn you: to address India’s wannabe “progressive” class, one needs to initially pretend to be as non-sensical and insipid as the seculars are, just so they can begin to understand the topics being discussed.) If you do want to write on the subject some day, you can use the material I’ve collated there and anything I may have said and customise it at will.
In any case, activist female Hindus need to raise awareness on this subject among our (Hindu) wo/men first. And then we need to use that growing circle of awareness and immunity among our own, to thereafter influence India’s “progressive” secularising class of once-Hindu women, who may–albeit grudgingly–change if they can’t avoid seeing the social engineering that’s being plotted against them. We need to nip this problem in the bud before it gets launched, and thereby restrict the damage it can do: so that it at most affects the non-essential parts (the ultra-seculars/progressives and other Hindu baiters).
With you 100% on this.
@sumathimegavarnam:disqus
Lol, you seem to have lost it. Do you Christian neighbours who trouble you? Which is why you are throwing your idiotic anger on Christian. My appeal please do not judge on the basis of few people in community. Every religion has a dark pages of history.
We have so many examples of genocidal history done by Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, etc
Genocide by Hinduism how insane you could be
Yup, that’s the truth.
Ha ha ancient so called christian society when your faker lived; how women were treated ? Should i open my mouth ??? O’ xian love ?? Love krishna, jesus is fake sorry !!!
Why reply to me? When did I say anything else about jesus and christianity other than that jesus never existed and that christianity is an evil lie?
Sorry to bring a topic which is not relevant to the one you were discussing I have read many of your comments and I am amazed at the level of your knowledge and depth of reading.Thank you very much for enlightening us with your wisdom which unfortunately seems to be missing on a lot of these forums.I am huge supporter of Hindu Women who take this cause seriously and get involved in the movement and in your case even more so coz you end up providing links which helps the readers.Again since there is no PM in disqus I had to resort to this method I am gonna copy paste a link of my comment to Rajalakshmi J which I think other Hindu women should also know how the lady changes stance and especially holds Pedophile Muhammad in very high regards.On the contrary Shubangi Raykar has been someone whose well read(a retired teacher) and firm on her views wrt to Christianity,Islam or Secularism and Sumathi I believe is a younger lady trying to learn,I assume you are a Tamil,I would appreciate if you would warn people and even give inputs on the dangerous line that Smt,Rajalakshmi J is toeing especially when she takes the name of Kaanchi MaHaPeriyavar in the same breath as Muhammad.We already have a huge number of gullible confused Hindus suffering from Sameness Syndrome and Rajalakshmi J’s analogy of Hindu Sadhu Sanyasis with Muhammad the Rapine lover is something that raises all the red flag.I am asking you for help because somewhere in one of your comments I came across references to Kaanchi MaHaPeriyavar and I am not so well verse with his teachings so I hope you dont mind my rudeness.Thanks
Regards
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/swarajyamag/the_continuing_decline_of_hindus_in_kerala/#comment-2644928205
1. The inconsistency in her comments highlighted by you is very striking and suspicious.
Do you think her disqus account may have been compromised (hijacked), either by someone unknown to her such as a monotheist, or the person that her “persona B” comment says she’s estranged from: her husband. Consider, her persona B wrote the following in response to you (taken from the link you provided):
If her husband has indeed hijacked her account and is inverting her position via his comments under her ID (perhaps to spite her or to undo her interests), there may still be truth to the above detail of their private life: that they are not friendly with each other/that they are estranged, even if he’s pretending to be her.
Note that at least 11 days ago, her account still showed evidence of Persona A, because she upvoted Jishnu’s pro-heathen comment that is dated 11 days ago from the present.
Other than that her account has become compromised, I can’t see anything else to explain the utter inconsistency of her comments. I can’t imagine that even schizophrenia could produce two such polar opposite views on the monotheist religions.
In any case, the link you provided to your disqus conversation with her (or her ID) is sufficiently convincing to warn off anyone. You don’t need me, you just need to post the very same link you provided here, in response to any of her comments that are against Hindu interests. Along with the link, similarly warn other readers that either her disqus account was hacked, or some other serious matter is going, but either way the comments emanating from her disuqs account are significantly inconsistent as to point to at least two different people.
2. On Kanchi Paramacharya. Generally, traditional Hindu swamis do not care for the monotheist religions and don’t often speak of even Buddhism or Jainism. When they do speak of the monotheisms, some may — from the common lack of knowledge concerning the monotheisms as well as the pervasive monotheist PR — speak inoffensively or even in a universalist manner (as many lay Hindus unfamiliar with the monotheisms still do). But you’ll often find that many traditional swamis are not actually universalist and many are not ignorant either and even try to remove ignorance.
In any case, here is Kanchi Paramacharya’s view on monotheisms:
http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part2/chap3.htm
He makes his points (see below) in a non-offensive way, but you will notice that he is essentially saying that, while we may perhaps assume that the adherents of the monotheisms may “mean well” in their otherwise objectionable conversion impulses, the truth claims of their religions are nevertheless false:
So he’s saying that we need not doubt that the monotheists themselves are convinced they are right, and that is why they resort to their objectionable conversion tactics methods. But he further says that the monotheisms themselves are illogical and downright wrong.
The nature of this argument is essentially the same as that which Elst and Ali Sina and other critics of islam make: that muslims/christians are misguided followers of lies (the monotheisms); that islam/christianity are to blame for the methods employed, not the adherents, who are just brainwashed victims of the monotheist disease.
3. You said:
> I am huge supporter of Hindu Women
All Hindu men are, confirmed also by my experience.
Note that I don’t particularly identify with my gender or with the opposite gender. (Heathens don’t affiliate by gender anyway.) I only identify with Hindu heathens, and will further show solidarity with other heathens.
@sumathimegavarnam:disqus : I suppose you did M. Phil. I wonder how come Philosophy teaches you that Jesus is Fake. Philosophy should also teach you then all other gods do not exist. Even the 33 crore Hindu Gods 🙂
You people live in a world of deceit which was taught to you……who told you so there we so many gods in first place???Koti does not mean Crore…..
KOTI means Supreme or the Brahman…….As per Hinduism there is one and only Brahman he who is the Supreme
See you yourself gave the answer. You corrected me about 33 crore God mindset. I spoke what I was propagated to me by my HINDU friends which in turn were taught by their parents who were taught by some temple gurus.
Thank you for clearing the concept.
In the similar way, I would also like to tell you that Christianity is much more beautiful and worth living a lifetime (if you accept Christ’s teaching sincerely) BUT it seems you were either brainwashed or was only shown the dark pages of history of Christianity. (like I said earlier, every religion has dark history)
Which is why I urged you not to be judgemental to any religion just on basis of some false teachers.
I pray to Jesus that you may some day would learn to understand.
I am thankful to GOD for helping me to make you to Understand , hope you would also learn the True facts & come back to your home which is Hindu religion or Sanatana dharma……..With respect to your Brain washing , the whole word knows who does that………
Every religion does brainwashing 🙂
My Gharwapsi is already done. I belong where I should be. As a matter of fact, where all of us should (to CHRIST). But worry not, I will pray for you to make your Gharwapsi to CHRIST.
Faith is different from BLIND Faith , you are trapped as of now, first come out of it……Jesus is fake , none of his contemporaries have recorded about a person called jesus ….he is a complete fictional figure revolving around the fake book called bible…..you must knowing the book was written after some forty years of the so called jesuses death……its all rubbish stories
All I could say is that I will surely remember you in my prayers, so that you may have better understanding about JESUS CHRIST.
JesusNeverExisted Com
And as Sita-Ram Goel so correctly observed in the very title of his work on the subject: Jesus Christ (is) An Artifice of Aggression. That’s all he ever was. Nothing beautiful about him, but what was stolen from others’ heathenisms and grafted onto christianity.
I said might have. that had a touch of sarcasm . Again I am totally against the fraud of appropriation , things like Christ is like Krishna. etc. As a student and teacher of post colonial literature I have studied the multiple aspects of it and have become vociferous about the Evangelical epidemic. Unless Hindus unite and assert their ancient and noble religion there is no hope for Bharat.
Why don’t people point out the occult aspect of Christianity as they asked to eat Christ’s flesh and drink his blood to become one with him as preached by him in later years diluted to a piece of bread and red wine.
Use this. And customise as required.
Since the purpose of my previous comment wasn’t clear to you, the lines
“Use this. And customise as required”
was in response to your statement on “Why don’t people point out (about christianity)…” and is linked here for you to use to quickly respond to the many christian trolls sent to spam Hindu and other Indian nationalist sites. It will give them something more productive to occupy their time with. Sites like JesusNeverExisted Com are also for you to use against the trolls.
Currently reading “The Autobiography of a Yogi”, I am not able to come to terms with how Sri Yukteshwar Giri explains the Adam, Eve and the serpent to Paramhans Yoganand. That was in early 20th century. Can’t know if these were actually recorded by the great Yogi or are later insertions. The book has many references to gospels when explaining teachings from scriptures.
Brilliant article. This ‘Jesus was a Yogi’ narrative is making it easy for Westerners to digest the Hindu tradition into Christianity. ‘Oh, Jesus didn’t actually mean this. He was a Yogi so he must have meant this’ Nonsense!
my query is out of jesus travel and burial there are many among one japan ,which is correct ?