Published On: Fri, May 29th, 2015

Dharma, not Wing politics should guide India

The story goes that the terms Right wing (RW) & Left wing (LW) were first used in the French Parliament soon after the bloody revolution. The right-wingers were cultured, mostly rich and more importantly, didn’t stink whereas the Left-wingers were the exact opposite. Hence both these groups sat separately on either sides of the center and addressed each other in the direction they sat to each other. So this seemingly innocuous addressing ritual has today become very potent with political meanings, policies and discourses.

wingsThe concept of these two opposing views is entirely Western. To simplify matters, each side considers the other to be evil and as the cause of misfortune in society. Both have well-set propaganda mechanisms in place to promote their own ‘superior’ outlook on various issues and also to slander the opponent’s view. This binary divide has been so ingrained into the psyche of the people and the culture, as a result of constant hammering, that an individual can only either belong to the one side or the other. There are some exceptions of course, with some in the center too, but they are few and far between. It is a very polarized society in which the rift is only getting wider with each day passing.

These two diametric views do not represent a homogenous mix of people with beliefs. Instead they contain several groups, divisions, and ideologies within them. Liberals, Communists, Socialists, Democrats in the US and the Labour Party in the U.K. Hippies, feminists, environmentalists and several more groups belong to the Left. There is a considerable population of Christians in some countries who count themselves in this category. They identify themselves as Christian Socialistic liberals, mostly. The Right contains the majority of Christians, the superrich (at least most of them), corporations, Republicans in the U.S, the NRA, the Conservative party of U.K, all conservatives (fiscal & Social) in general and so on.

The Left is of the opinion that the right-wingers are crazy, fascists whereas the Right thinks that the Left is all Communists, and Pussies. The left prides itself as the liberator of the common man from the clutches of the oppressing Right and the Right thinks that there is no oppression: it’s just that some are rich and the others haven’t worked hard enough. And then there are the religious conservatives who think that they are under obligation to the Almighty to preach and proselytize in any way they can, throughout the world. There are also people to the extremes in both sides called, the so-called Extreme Left and Extreme Right. They tend to be more physically violent.

The West has been very successful in categorizing the whole world within these two categories. Be it a Democratic society, which includes several of its own nations, or dictatorships around the World, it has propagated a discourse labeling each society, its ruler(s), its civilization with either of these positions. It is accurate to say that the Western society primarily looks at any other culture alien to it through this lens. And since this narrative is forced upon the rest of the World, through either its hard power or its soft power or a combination of both, this lens and the resulting perceptions (aberrations) have incredibly altered the psychology, morale and self-perception (or identity) of the locales on whom it is imposed.

Now, let us turn to our own backyard, India. India’s civilization, which is one of the oldest and still surviving, has a very different outlook on life. Its philosophies and priorities are different from the West and so are its methods to approach life. Our civilization is Dharmic, based on the Dharma. Yes, it includes even the people of Abrahamic faiths. I personally know Muslims and Christians who, contrary to their own religious teachings, believe in Dharmic concepts like Karma, rebirth etc. It’s a peculiarity of only this civilization. The word Dharma is non-translatable. One can only vaguely approach its meaning using terms in non-Indic langauges which invariably fail to capture its core essence and its all-encompassing application.

adivasiIt’s a certain Indian experience that makes Dharma unique. Though our civilization encompasses several sects, schools and cultures inside it, they all conform to a common outlook and identity dictated by the values prescribed by Dharma. Be it the Vedic religions, Buddhism, or the Adivasi cultures in the villages, there is a common thread that runs throughout this civilization, that lets us treat others with mutual respect and look at ourselves with contentment. Fortunately or unfortunately it is Dharma that we use as the lens to look at the World.

Does our civilization offer an opposition to Dharma making it bipolar like the West? It does, but not in the same sense though. There is Adharma, which simply means ‘that which is not Dharma’. So for example, if Dharma says something as basic as, ‘respect your parents’, Adharma is simply not doing   so. And there are certain things specifically classified as Adharma by definition. There have been times in our civilization when Adharma has flourished with the help of certain rulers and ideologies, but there never was a time when Dharma didn’t oppose it and fight against it.

Furthermore, the dichotomy between Dharma and Adharma is not borne of out of social status or how people smelled, like that of the West, but by the very nature of Man and his/her aspirations. Neither can it be compared to that of the Christian view of God (or Good) Vs Evil because Dharma has nothing to do with religion and certainly not with an imaginary personification of people’s fear and dark desires.

It is this Dharmic worldview that is at odds with the ‘Left Vs. Right’ worldview of the West. When the West first encountered Indian culture, they couldn’t understand it. And when they began trying to understand it, they were frightened by it, as our systems made more sense than theirs. What they thought would be a country full of barbarians who would need to be taught culture, turned out to be a civilization that was far more superior to theirs. This was one of the chief reasons they were unable destroy it, because they soon realized that it was a treasure house of knowledge that they hadn’t been exposed to and that they could easily appropriate it.

Moreover, the Dharmic system was so inherently part of our culture that it would have been really difficult for them to destroy it physically. So they did the next best thing. They started to discredit it through political interventions, evangelization, education, media etc., which has continued on ever since till today. Whatever they thought would fit in their scheme of things they stole and the rest they discarded with disdain. The effect of this undertaking is today reaping benefits for them as we, Indians, ourselves have now bought into their discourse and just like them, identify with their narrative rather than having one on our own.

Before proceeding any further on why I think we should get out of the Left vs. Right debate altogether, I would like to mention where I stand in relation to both these views. I’m a firm, practicing Hindu. I’m a nationalist. I’m proud of my culture, heritage and traditions. I believe that we ourselves are fully capable to solve the problems we have in our society, without the intervention of any third party, be it physically or ideologically. I believe in the cultural integrity of India. I respect the Sages, Seers, Gurus and the great kings of our country. All these would automatically get me classified as a Right-winger, regressive and a bigot.

bishnoiBut then I’m also very much an environmental conscious person, almost a tree hugger. I respect Mother Earth and care for its living beings. I’m a vegetarian. I’m highly critical of GMO foods, because, first of all, I believe that there have not been enough tests done to fully certify them as being harmless. Secondly, because of my respect for Nature I really don’t want humans messing with it just to earn some dollars, and thirdly, I really don’t want to handover the control of what I eat, to a corporation. However, all these would immediately put me under the leftist category.

Again, I also believe that it is not the business of the government to interfere in business. I respect free market in a lot of things, as I believe it to be a fair, level playing field if not tampered with. I believe in the privatization of many services, which are currently run by the government.  All this would again put me with the ‘Right wing nuts’.

I’m sure like me, there are millions of others who have similar beliefs that simultaneously spread over both the sides. So it makes no sense to classify them as left or right as more often than not one is made to choose between these two.

But if we look from the Dharmic viewpoint on where I stand on issues, I believe my position, like many other Indians, would be fully compatible with Dharma. I’m not supporting anything that is Adharmic. To me what I believe essentially falls into this: ’Yogakshema Vahamyaham’, one of the best expressions of Dharma.

Why a Dharmic point of view is the best for India

The Left Vs. Right fight is essentially a political one. Every issue that is encompassed in either of the categories is given a political colour. Be it economics, environmentalism, religion, you name it and it becomes an election issue. So inevitably, instead of a mature understanding of issues and finding acceptable solutions by people as a family or as a collective society, people in power administer them from the top. Hence, the incessant acerbity between both the sides and a fierce struggle to capture power in any way possible. The wounds from these struggles persist for ages—sometimes there are no healing attempts from both sides. For example, in the U.S, the South still considers itself cheated by the North during the civil war, which was fought about one hundred and fifty years ago and till date has a great amount of disdain (to say the least) to its Northern brothers and Sisters.

birdsOn the other hand, Indian society already has a framework, with a mechanism to look at issues and find solutions for them through Dharma. It might need some updates for the present time, but that’s only natural. Moreover the Dharmic system allows for these updates. Issues aren’t politicized automatically. Instead of ‘rights’, there is still a huge population that believes in ‘duty.’ Hence we don’t have the ‘Right’ to exploit or the ‘Right’ to a personal space etc, but duty to our fellow beings, animals, birds, plants and even rocks. Environmentalism is not a movement, vegetarianism is not a lifestyle but an integral part of Dharma with a clear meaning and purpose that anyone born into it or accepts it, is able to imbibe that essence, understands it and follows it accordingly. We don’t expect the government to pay us when we are unemployed or grow old. Our family system takes care of it. Hence there is lesser burden and dependency on a central power.

A God or a King or a Social reformer didn’t implement this system. It wasn’t brought into existence by a single event or a book. It exists because of the collective experience, understanding, and wisdom of people who have been living here for thousands of years through imbibing its culture and the civilization. It has grown organically like the roots of a tree.

One of the peculiarities of almost all Western worldviews and philosophies is that they tend to be impractical. The Greek imposed a certain sacredness to numbers and the result of that idealization can be felt even today with Maths being a difficult subject for most children to learn.  Especially since only the Western mode (at least in Mathematics which is based on age old Greek methods) of teaching is prescribed and encouraged in schools in India. In Indian Mathematical systems such unnecessary imposition never occurred. The early Indian mathematicians were fine with treating Maths and numbers as just tools for every day’s livelihood. Similarly in the Western religion, you go to ‘Heaven’ in the future, after you are dead, where an Impersonal God with a white beard sits in the throne, judging the dead people. Whereas our Dharmic philosophy insists that Moksha is now and anybody can attain it. You don’t need to die to attain the state of perfection or Bliss.

In line with these esoteric standards, are the West’s various Economic models. What Karl Marx expounded as Communism was tried in several countries, only to be discovered as a practically impossibility that couldn’t be followed by any free society. Milton Freidman’s free market model was deemed impractical even by the free marketers themselves and consequently was implemented only in parts and never fully.

randRightly or wrongly, that implementation by Reagan during the 80s is now considered to be the starting point of the present economic crisis in the U.S and Europe. And speaking about the global economic crisis, one cannot forget the innumerous models and Nobel prizes that were given to these economists who neither could predict the crisis nor could find any practical solution to get out of it. Another ferocious capitalist, the darling of the Western fiscal conservatives and libertarians, Ayn Rand, justified the killing of Native Americans and the occupation of their land with her Capitalist theories. And these are the exemplary thinkers and their philosophies that we (both left & right) are supposed to idealize and follow!It has been the tendency of the West to first set an abstract ideal or framework into which they try to fit their everyday life. This framework may or may not be a success but is still put there blindly, as the ‘destination’ or the ‘million dollar trophy’.

But Indian civilization and its values are more organic. They tend to be more practical. Even our languages, like Sanskrit, are so practical with no irrational assumptions that plague its Western counterparts. Hence for us it does not matter what the ideal is as long as it is practical, achievable and more importantly harmonious with matter and spirit. It doesn’t matter if either the free market principles or the socialistic principles work. They both have some valid uses at certain times and at certain places and don’t work in other situations. To borrow certain things from one side doesn’t mean negating the other. Anything that works for the good of the society and falls within the purview of the Ethos that we call Dharma is welcome and needs to be supported.

Consequences of playing the Left Vs. Right Game

As explained earlier, the whole ‘Left Vs Right’ is very much a Western concept and it has been forced upon us through our education, media and politics, the effect being that most of us have started believing it as something natural to our own ecosystem. The Indian ‘Right’, especially, has been rightly concerned about the discourse on India by the West. Almost all of our present Governance, Economics (at least superficially), Administration, Entertainment, and Law has been borrowed from and/or influenced by the West. So much so that our country’s constitution has been generously moulded by other Western countries and we, strangely enough, seem to be very proud of it!

For too long, our History has been falsely written and taught. Millions of Indians have lived for generations together, with an inferiority complex that we are somehow inferior to the Western, white man. This includes even the intelligent PhDs, business tycoons and political leaders. We are ready to accept almost anything that comes out of a Westerner’s mouth. Hence it is urgently imperative to break away from this externally influenced narrative of us, at this juncture.

During the past few years, this voice of the so-called Indian Right has become stronger and more vocal with more and more well educated, informed, technologically savvy young Indians chipping in. They are not afraid to debate, ask questions and proudly claim allegiance to what they consider as true, valid and their own. This has indeed angered the Indian Left as well as the Western Liberal/Left who for the past 60 years had been given a free reign in setting the agenda for the country and are for the first time encountering a serious opposition since Independence.  And they’re retaliating furiously, trying to discredit the ‘Right’ as much as they can with lies and false propaganda. Issues like making India the rape capital, Gharwapsi, minorities fear, human rights violations are all the counteractive measures taken by the Left.

wapsiBut the problem is that the so-called Indian Right has also identified itself, as ‘Right’ which is again a part of the same Western Worldview. So any desire to break away from the circle and any attempt to do so is not going to yield the desired result. If there is an attempt to take a stand on for example, a social issue, it is at once seen as a political struggle between the two sides and if the position tends to be against the Left/liberal agenda the Left’s entire intellectual mechanism, along with their political and media arms, starts working on it throughout the World.

And so the Indian Right always ends up defending its stand, always getting pushed back. Even if there is any success on any issues that it has taken up, it is always temporary and never a convincing or long-lasting one. And whatever victory it does achieve, it is as much a victory for the Left for successfully deluding the Right to bask in its achievement. There seems to be a never-ending queue of Leftists waiting to attack and slander the Right, not missing any opportunity. If it isn’t the activists and the NGOs, then it is the media or the writers, artists and intellectuals. If not them, then the politicians take up the mantle. And finally when all these have been exhausted, the courts step in and make sure that Leftists and Liberals win the day.

And this is to be expected, especially in a society which has been brainwashed for generations to be obedient babus and Sepoys. The West has always set this playing field. The Western Right might be fighting the Left in their own land. But we have to realize that it is not just the Indian Left that we are fighting, but the whole of the Western Right and Left, put together.

Both sides have huge stakes in India and they wouldn’t mind joining hands to achieve their sinister objectives. How many times have we in the recent past, seen instances where the left/liberal (in and out of India) and the so-called ‘Right’ of the West have joined hands and maligned our culture? Is it not true that the dubious NGOs here get funding from both the sides? The Indian communist will shamelessly shed tears for the Church attacks, supposedly done by Hindus, which will then become a headline in the liberal New York Times!

So by identifying with them, what is the Indian right actually fighting against? How can we even spot the real enemy when we are misidentifying as ‘Right’ with such a blurry and confused vision?

Another important issue of this identity crisis is the inability to find indigenous solutions to problems that we face here in India. By tagging ourselves along with their system we tend to look into their models and their experience to find answers for our issues. Hence by all probability any solution that we do pick, inevitably fails, as those solutions haven’t worked even for their own societies. Considering the present social-political-economic situation prevailing in the West, we would be wise to disregard their models. Conversely, by identifying with them we tend to forget to look into our own systems to find answers for our problems. The answers could be here. It most probably is. But by not even considering to look here we lose an opportunity to solve the problem right here, and with comparative ease.

sanghEven inside the so-called Indian Right there are some incredible divisions. A lot of the ‘fiscally conservative’ Indians ironically consider RSS (which is obviously seen as the evil fountainhead of Indian Right-wing by the leftists) as Left because of their stand on certain issues relating to farmers and industry. This chunk of the Indian Right Wing mostly looks up to Western economists, their models and particularly their corporate/capitalist set up and considers that as the primary reason for their prosperity. They are ardent fans of their economic policies.

But what they forget is that India had a share of at least 25 per cent or more of the world GDP from 1AD till the 1750s. India and China together shared more than 50 per cent of the World GDP for all those centuries. India was a thriving nation with numerous industries and services. Other countries looked to India just as we look to the West nowadays. We were once a very prosperous nation indeed and we didn’t particularly practice the Capitalistic (or the socialistic) policies that are in vogue now. In fact some data suggests that in those days, everyone involved in the production of a product, say an Iron tool had a share in its sale profit unlike most of the corporate policies practiced now.

If the farmers are fighting for some issue, say their land, the Left automatically takes it up as its own fight. And the Indian Right foolishly lets the left get away with it. This being the case, on what basis does it become a leftist issue? If a farmer is insecure about something, he has the right to be so. And his insecurity must be addressed in the best way possible. It’s a human issue. And because the Right has already accepted a narrative that claims that such issues are typically the Left’s issues (just by playing the left vs. right game), they do not push to take up those causes as their own. Conversely if there are any laws or bills that are passed by the government that seem to lean towards the corporates or the rich, they are at once termed as ‘anti-people’,’ anti-poor’, ‘pro-rich’ and so on. It is at once pushed to the Right which now has to deal with the burden of defending and explaining itself, trying to look less evil.  There is no discussion on whether those laws might actually help a lot of poor people to get jobs and education.

Only by following or identifying with the native Dharma do we have any chance of breaking out of this Western narrative. Only then will we be playing to our strengths and be successful in taking on our opponents on our own terms. It will also put them on the defensive, make them get out of their comfort zone and sweat a bit for a change. By changing the discourse to ‘Dharma vs. Adharma’ we gain an upper hand to play the game as it should be played in our own backyard according to our own rules.

The Leftists would do well to remember that Dharma, millenniums ago, had declared ‘Vasudeva Kutumbhakam’, that the whole world is one big family. No communism, no amount of Marxist or Maoist propaganda can make any sense beyond that aphorism. It was Dharma that first gave us the insight that society needs to be complementary and  supplementary instead of just being equal. What one individual lacks another should stand up and make up for the shortcoming by complementing him/her. It is the duty of every member of the society to do so. And this is how our civilization has survived for such a long time.  Hence it was indeed sad to hear when a wise learned man like His Holiness the Dalai Lama said, “As far as socioeconomic theory, I am Marxist”, in a recent meeting. It shows how much the Western thought has taken over our minds and thinking.

Finally, the biggest outcome of this paradigm shift from the Left/Right fight would be the harmony that would ensue in society. Instead of the constant bickering between two sides politicizing everything, there would really be opportunities where people involved can sit, discuss and solve their problems without resorting to name calling and labeling. Instead of a society with two mutually exclusive sides struggling to outsmart each other, there could be a possibility of a society where people can work together, with mutual respect, agreeing on some issues and respectfully agreeing to disagree on others, working not to prove a point or an abstract ideology, but to address the problems of the society and nurturing the future with positivity.

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  1. Santi Dash says:

    I wish the author would have referred to Rajiv Malhotra’s work. Somehow it feels like he lifted the idea from RM and tried to fit it as his. This kind of pettiness is the reason behind the current society. The author is part of the problem not the solution.

  2. Xiang Chen says:

    Oh dear Jithu in a few lines you brilliantly exposed the problems we deplore every day. I am a Buddhist born in France and I have fought all my life against Christians, Marxists, Muslims and Leftists for remain faithful to Dharma uncompromisingly….The Jews are very similar to us, no problems with them

    No mistake, it is a real war I lead in France against Adharma for the right to stay who I am

    I am proud to have survived and now I can help you solve the problems of the Indian Society because it takes very little improvement for India to become a universal model for the world

    1) By defining Dharma = Ahimsa ie “The absolute prohibition to harm in any way to the entire Creation”…..in this way Adharma becomes much more visible so zero tolérance

    • Ahimsa allows humans to live according to their needs and their tastes by taking from Mother Nature with moderation. So we can not prohibit trains, cars, planes, roads, cities, factories or the consumption of meat (vegetarianism is not an absolute obligation) or vegetables or picking flowers … because all humans have their share in the Right to live.

    • The only “Duty” to humans is the strict application of Ahimsa, that giveth to all humans a “Right” led by the Love of Creation and Wisdom

    • The “human rights” are already included in Ahimsa and they are more moral than those of western

    • But it is clear that we must fight strongly against Caste system, Lies, Thieves, Corruption, Assassinations, Rapes, Pedophilia, Incest, Sexual slavery, Polluters of air & water etc … because they go to against Ahimsa.

    2) In summary, if we do not fight against Adharma and Himsa It follows that Dharma and Ahimsa have no chance to triumph one day….

    • Jishnu says:

      1. by defining dharma=ahimsa one simply reduces the dynamic, vast, complex, natural principle of dharma into a stereotype, narrow, monolithic unnatural principle. dharma does not need reduction, it needs realization for its execution in human society 🙂

      It is one great thing to believe in ahimsa whose corollary is standing by what one believes and not violating others’ space and life – which is why ahimsa is called a parama dharma (the paramount dharma). But as a dharma of mankind that hardly suffices – which is why the vihara-s in east perished and failed to survive when faced with barbaric abrahamists. As Sri Aurobindo says, when satva faces aggression it results in a great outburst of rajas, and does not result in passivity – if it is true satva and rooted in dharma. So the protection of dharma from ahimsa, which is a dharma itself, when is part of dharma, dharma cannot be a simplistic statement of ahimsa 🙂

      • Xiang Chen says:

        Dharma = Ahimsa can not be monolithic nor simplistic, narrow or unnatural principe since it is eternal, infinite in its application to every moment of our life to solve all the personnal problems or those of the humanity.

        Also it opens the doors of nirvana by eliminating the ego and human imperfections.

        • Jishnu says:

          Why is it not simplistic/reduction when ahimsa is one of the several dharma-s?

          • Xiang Chen says:

            Why is the number 1 is so simple but the only Truth versus to an infinite number ?….therefore quantity is never synonymous of Truth.

            In the same way you have several dharma-s and numerous gods who never had ideas to solve your problems whereas God Creator of Universe speaks to you and helps you through Ahimsa. Why this contempt for the number One ?

          • Jishnu says:

            Counter question doesn’t help answers, you see 🙂 It just becomes an argument.

          • Xiang Chen says:

            There are several arguments in my response but to summarize: For example 15 is 15 times the number 1 ie the different facets of number 1

            So if you have for example 15 Dharma-s that means you have 15 facets of the Dharma paramount (Ahimsa) probably with many errors and gaps because you have not yet understood all functions of Ahimsa.

          • Jishnu says:

            That example simply doesn’t hold: a subset IS a subset no matter how wide it is and how much you try to widen it for presentation sake. Parama dharma is NOT singular. There are several dharma-s, each held paramount by people with different functions. Ahimsa is JUST ONE of those functions how much ever one tries to make it look like all-encompassing it is simply not. When a millennium of record of its insufficiency is already presented as counter evidence, this kind of “all functions of ahimsa” argumentation is just good for self-deception. Not that you have no right to it 🙂

          • Xiang Chen says:

            LOOOL “When a millennium of record of its insufficiency is already presented as counter evidence”
            1) The behavior of Buddha and some of his teachings come from Ahimsa (about 2,600 years)
            2) The Torah (book of Judaism) is Ahimsa for beginners (about 3,500 years)
            Please give me evidences of the ineffectiveness of Ahimsa in both cases compared to Hinduism like castes, rapes, assassinations, corruption, etc…)

          • Jishnu says:

            So now you come out in true colors, where your concealed hate is. Good. All that you attribute to Hinduism is what Hinduism suffers from as a result of abrahamism, not what it created.

          • Xiang Chen says:

            “My hate, my lies” loool these behaviour comes from animal impulses that I eradicated in my previous reincarnation because I am Buddhist.

            I only said that Ahimsa was given by God to Abraham to offer it to sons of his concubines before sending them to the East.

            Thus through Ahimsa and teachings given by God to Abraham there is much in common between us and Judaism. Note that Reincarnation (gilgoul) is taught in Judaism for millennia. (Book of Job about 3500 years ago not mentioned by Wiki). From this moment in hinduism appears the name of Brahma the one God and its extensions as Brahmanism, Brahmin etc to expose the link with Abraham

            1) So be honest in recognizing that Jews (1st Abrahamic religion) have never laid a hand on us or tried to convert us.

            2) Christianity and Islam were created by animals in human form (read the Qur’an and the Gospels) to steal the leadership, land and religion of the Jews, that is why they robbed the Torah to do exactly opposite of what it says.

            These sects say they are “abrahamic religion” it’s a big lie, the only truth is that Ishmaël was the son of Abraham, no more.

            3) We are not the only victims of the stupidity and barbarism of Christians and Muslims coming from their animality (the Jews suffering for over 2000 years), but please be honest do not making them responsible for the animality (castes system, rape etc…) that resides in Hinduism despite Ahimsa

          • Jishnu says:

            “loool these behaviour comes from animal impulses that I eradicated in my previous reincarnation because I am Buddhist.”

            Now that calls for a ROFL. However convoluted you might attempt, there are a bunch of lies in what you are saying.

            1. There is no mention of jews I did – you are bringing them in and this is called an argument of deception.

            2. That xtianity and islam are abrahamic is beyond doubt.

            3. It requires your honesty to see how the “animality” in India is created by abrahamic predators for thousand years and how they alone are responsible for all the problems we had. ALL. Slavery, feudalizing of social groups, impoverishment, practices like dowry, constrainment of social space for soft aspects of civilization. ALL the problems. There is no honesty lacking on my side.

            On the contrary it is you who needs to honestly see as to why buddhist regions like afghan, bihar, bengal fell so miserably in the hands of the barbarians, why ahimsa=dharma is a foolish reduction, why dharma must be understood and implemented in all its forms.

          • Xiang Chen says:

            1) you mention the Jews when you are saying “Abrahamic predators” you must add each time (except the Jews.) Thus your chrislam will be very angry and you will stop lying

            2) Nothing Abrahamic in both cases: Jesus never existed historically. Also it could not be a Jew since it forgot to teach Reincarnation….Allah was a pre-Islamic idol (the moon) in Kaaba. Abraham had destroyed all the idols of his father, then God of Israel spoke to him directly then the Torah forbids idolatry So imagine the anger of Abraham.

            3) I remind you that I live in France (country financially and morally bankrupt due to amorality of chrislam) and I know all about worn methods of your barbarians. But India still remains predominantly Hinduist therefore there are more people able to shoot down Allah and Jesus (this is my méthod in France)

            4) Dharma=Ahimsa I do not know how to help a Dalit. Her husband was government employee PHED Purnia. Its boss has denied access office and he stopped the transfer of his salary since 2008 until today. She has a big dossier on corruption in PHED. She contacted Bihar CM many times then the report of anti corruption brigade was never published since 2011.

            His family is threatened with death every day, and all actions in court failed (because bribing or because Dalit ?)

            So corruption is not good for India and a government employee who was not sacked must be paid immediately……….how to help ?

          • Jishnu says:

            1. I don’t have to. The word “abrahamic predators” automatically excludes non-predatory abrahamics.

            2. Historicity of Jesus is irrelevant to whether chrislam is abrahamic.

            3. No India does not remain “predominantly Hindu” since the state is itself anti-Hindu. Hindu notion is “yathA rAja tathA prajA”: so whatever Hindu we have is in spite of a pro-abrahamic predator state, after tearing up into five nations and having a remainder which is again run by a proxy colonial anti-Hindu state. None of its current institutions – state, education, feudalized caste are Hindu.

            4. Read #3.

          • Xiang Chen says:

            1) You must specify “except Jews” because Truth is Truth on all sides and she must not leave any room for doubt. a) You are the inventor of the word “Abrahamic predators” that is correct for you b) but not for the Jews that you are insulting because Judaism is the only authentic Abrahamic religion and jews have never been predators.

            2) To be an Abrahamic religion the contract since about 3700 years ago, is as follows a) circumcision on the 8th day after birth b) must to honor and obey the God of Abraham only….Chrislam failed. Please do not be the ally of chrislam by disseminating their lies.

            3) I was talking about Hindu Dharm ie you are about 1 billion to shoot down chrislam and its allies.

            So if state is itself anti-Hindu and a pro-abrahamic predator state ; meditate about “as the king, so the people”.. “yathA rAja tathA prajA” “if you sow the thorny babool tree, how can you expect mangoes ?

            I meditated for you and the cause of these adverse effects comes from the word “TOLERANCE” (hindu use all the time) invented by Christians in order to impose the teaching of Jesus as “love each other” Lool no one can love its burglar her rapist or whoever tries to kill you. Then Jesus said “you must forgive”

            hahaha France and Europe are dying because of the immorality of their own religion. (Karmic boomerang)

            4) It’s the souls of Brahmin that reincarnate in the body of the Dalits (Karmic boomerang)

          • Xiang Chen says:

            I will prove that the karmic punishment is like a boomerang ( mirror effect) that only comes from the transgression of Dharma = Ahimsa.
            Note: Lie, Theft, Murder (even virtual) are the most frequent transgressions. Thus:

            1. system of caste = LIE

            2. Failure to pay a government employee for 8 years = THEFT

            3. The Dalit family (7 people) are dying for lack of income = MURDER

            PHYSICAL RETALIATION FOR INDIA

            1. The cancer of corruption continue to expand because the anti corruption fight is a huge lie in some cases

            2. Money of India is stolen by corrupt Indians PHED employees, millions for the pumps were hijacked

            3. India becomes impoverished and die slowly like the Dalits families

            SPIRITUAL RETALIATION FOR INDIA

            1. Chrislam reinforces itself through conversions of disappointed Indians ie more and more ennemies of dharmic religions

            2. Ideologie of chrislam influence the increase in amorality (theft of the Temple treasure by authority, prohibition in Kerala)

            3. For example indian CM Nitish Kumar becomes the ally of chrislam and participates in the virtual death of Dharmic religions (In Bihar only Hindu pilgrims killed, only Buddhist shrine and buddhist minorities attacked, CM exercising state control over Buddhist shrine… while chrislam extends its power)

            The good news is that the karmic punishments against chrislam began. A tsunami of retaliation is on the way for them

          • Xiang Chen says:

            For info : Ahimsa and brahmanisme come from Abraham about 3700 years ago

            Torah says “As for the sons Abraham had had with concubines, he made them presents; and while he was still alive, he sent them away from his son Isaac eastward, to the land of Kedem” (Genese 25-6)

          • Jishnu says:

            Thats not info thats called lies.

          • Xiang Chen says:

            I spoke about Ahimsa given by Abraham about 3700 years ago with the intention to kill your ego and your lies due to your ignorance.

            Above you say

            “A God or a King or a Social reformer didn’t implement this system. It wasn’t brought into existence by a single event or a book. It exists because of the collective experience, understanding, and wisdom of people who have been living here for thousands of years through imbibing its culture and the civilization”

            Lool my dear, there is no human even after attaining enlightenment would have been capable of inventing Ahimsa. Remain humble because initially we are all animals in human form and we get a glimpse of ideologies coming from the ego…. in the Gospels the Koran Mein Kampf Marxisme etc … all of which have led to mass murdering.

          • Xiang Chen says:

            You say : “What is more central to dharma than ahimsa, is satya and you compromized it”.

            NO my dear DHARMA = AHIMSA IS ALWAYS SATYA because “in order not to harm others”, the first exigency from Ahimsa is to never lie (or giving false informations or defame) because falsehood always brings conflicts, bloody wars, chaos among couples, families, the states.

            Thus you bring proof that several Dharma-s do not help to eradicate this habitual animal behaviour in all imperfect humans.

            Keep your numerous Dharma-s but give your full attention to Ahimsa at every minute because is in this way that everyone can attain Moksha easier

  3. Shyam says:

    Nicely articulated.

    The Left/Right paradigm is outdated even in the US politics but it continues just for want of a better narrative. Both are typically pro War, pro corporate, pro Israel but just with different faces. So there is actually no classical Left or classical Right at all. The Republicans, leaving out perhaps Ron Paul, have moved so far right that they are rightly called crazies with their open Pro rich policies, anti immigration and the evangelical support base. You don’t hear about small govt enough even from them – which is why they are not the ‘Classical right’ such as Paul who is a strict constitutionalist who asks for a small govt, less foreign intervention and fiscal conservatism and an audit of the Fed to gain control over the monetary policy. Folks on the road even from the democratic side can see sense in what he says but due to the label of being called ‘Right’ cannot openly admit that he is correct. Dennis Kucinich is another example – great votary of fiscal conservatism but from the Democrats.

    indians in the US typically vote Democrat though they may be staunch Hindus – of even the ritualistic kind. Western Right is not just ‘religious’ of a generic sort (as contrasted by the ‘liberal’, pro LGBT pro abortion, pro eco Democrats) – its fundamental evangelical christianity and anti science (evolution) – which any educated person cannot openly support for fear of being derided and lost in time warp. No wonder Bobby Jindal has to make statements denouncing his past and heritage to appeal to this bigoted electorate. I really wish we’d stop calling him an Indian origin success. It disgusts me when I hear that. Tulsi Gabbard, Koenraad Elst, Francois Gautier, and Maria Wirth are perhaps better Indians.

    An interesting development in the last decade or so is the huge inroads into the Left made by islamist groups in the US such as CAIR – the outcome is that now Democrats now are seen to be in pockets of the Islamic groups and Republicans in the Church groups and there is no space for any other alternative – which is why Indians choose the lesser evil of Democrats – at least they seem ‘liberal’ and ‘open’ and are not anti-science.

    I had written something on the Indian media had given itself the self-serving moniker ‘left-liberal media’: https://disqus.com/home/discussion/firstpost/if_congress_is_a_private_company_bjp_is_a_shell_company/#comment-698462567. Give it read sometime.

    Irony just shot itself in the face since the Indian Left is funded by both Western Left (FF, Carnegie endowment, most NYC based foundations) and Western Right (Churches such as Southern Baptist and Lutheran) and everyone knows they are not liberal (perhaps the only journalists in the entire world with the dubious distinction who wanted Twitter to be regulated and helped govt prepare a list of handles to be banned – which finally proves the Indian media is neither left or right just another arm of the Congress party’s entitlement-based, corrupt ecosystem. Which also explains why BJP gets it so wrong about the MSM. They thought the MSM will fawn all over them when they get to power just as they did with the Congress when they were in power. To their shock, they realized its not happening. The MSM even today continues its anti BJP, anti-Hindu, anti-Modi narrative and the BJP spokespeople are clueless how to tackle it. I hear they are trying to woo them with a weekly party in Jaitleys house. Wrong strategically on so many levels – well, that’s for another post.

  4. Jishnu says:

    Like left-right, secular-religious, rights-duties and several other christian dichotomies are inapplicable in dharmic worldview.

    • Santi Dash says:

      I hope this author would have given the reference to the articles where he derived most of the content, Essentially he got it fro the work of RM. The author himself is part of the problem not solution. He himself does not know what it means to practice Dharma.

  5. Sundara Rajan Gopalakrishnan says:

    When you started it as Left Vs Right, I would like you to have ended in the same note, but you just went overboard. The last two paragraphs can be removed

  6. sattar rind says:

    dharma and religion could be separated like the Indian philosophy and religion. both are deeply intermingled by the Indians by themselves what i think

    • Santi Dash says:

      Read the book “Being Different” to get clarity on this.

      • sattar rind says:

        i did not understand reading books is not supporting one to be different or this is title of book that ”being different” and if so what i have to get clarity… i have gotten more clarity in my life and if there is any confusion in me, it should be with me even for nothing.

        • Santi Dash says:

          I apologize if my comment offended you. Dharma is not limited to indian philosophy. It’s practically every aspect of life. It is in essence about “integral unity”. The “Being Different” book by Rajiv Malhotra provides a framework in explaining Dharama.

          • sattar rind says:

            no you did not offend me. be sure please. however i am hardly interested in religion aspect of Indian philosophy. i do not think its essence internal unity. there is nothing like that thing in religion. as its man made ideas and Indian philosopher of ancient period intermingle it with the religion and made both weak at a time.

          • Santi Dash says:

            It’s not “internal unity”. It’s “integral unity”. Integral unity is a philosophic construct.

          • sattar rind says:

            its one and same think. however if you like more the word-”integral” i would be happy to use or accept it. we have divided even the ”unity” or we are conscious that which word suits more to ”unity” according one’s religious thought. this is why i am assuming that in pre-history after socio-political animal we become religious animal. since then we lost our internal- oh sorry integral unity of the society as well as personal.

          • Santi Dash says:

            “Integral unity” is related to every single atma and it’s existence. It’s nothing to do with land or group based unity. Its’ naive to believe that the civilized existence is a recent phenomenon.

  7. Contrarian says:

    A fantastic analysis. Transcending the binary divides is such an essential part of “thinking outside the box”.

    Minor quibbles. Sacredness is an essential part of Bhaarateeya Philosophy. The mundane is sacred. The 24 Tattvas (link) of Lord DattaatrEya are sacred. The transfinite mathematics (link) of the Jainas are sacred. The Earth-worms are sacred. Soil is sacred, Sex (link) is sacred.

    In other words, no non-sacred category ! So the Greek regard for numbers has an Indian legacy ! We know that Pythogras got the re-incarnation idea from Bhaaratam. And that’s the other terminological quibble I have. Bhaaratam is not India ! It subsumes and transcends India. The Idea of Bhaaratam is the Idea of Infinity, unlike the Khilnani Idea of India, circumscribed in small time & restricted space. But Nara + Ayana expresses continuous expansion (Brahman) in and Outside Space-Time !

  8. Eternal Bonfire says:

    Marxism is an alien philosophy and its founder himself was not marxist….he was capitalist in his living…. and our communsts dance with happiness to locate wisdom in the theory of a man who himself didn’t practice it and shunning our great shastras which truly contain solution of all human miseries. …. but marxist totalitarianism and atheism is blind to the virtues of dharmic shastras and “invent” virtue in an incomplete impractical theory! ………. sometimes I wonder that none of western ideology carying “ism” is complete in itself. …. and if you sum up all positive things of all “ism” our dharmic code surpasses even this combination. In fact our dharmic code is the only all encompassing holstic code in the world covering humanism and environmentalism with a balance. Code of righteousness cannot be narrowly bound in some “ism” ….and that is why our dharmic transcends all “ism” and talk of human welfare in harmony with nature. Very good article. Keep it up.

    • Contrarian says:

      Marxism gave birth to National Socialism – a.k.a Nazism. Mussolini, the founder of fascism, was inspired by the same Marxism. The fiercest hatred from the Marxists is even today reserved for these offspring !

      Today Periyarism (inspired by Marxism) has a legacy of caste-hatred building over the last 60-70 years. They mobilized and channeled hatred against 6% of the population in TN (Brahmins). These people were sitting ducks in the demographic mobilization games.

      They find the Thevar-Vanniar caste-based hatred is much bigger than they can explain. After all, we know that famed OBC congress leader Moopanar practiced untouchability. It will be interesting to see the VeeramaNis of this benighted state turn when the tide turns.

  9. Abyss says:

    Brilliantly articulated, mate! Looking forward to more such posts. Maybe, the next one could be about the ‘perverted sense of morality’ that we’ve adopted/inherited from the cultural invasions for over a millennium (in case you’ve already given it some thought).

    I would confess that my “conscious” exploration of dharmic philosophy began rather late and I’ve already lost 36 years, however, I do realize now that it’s an enriching experience. Having said that, perhaps, we do practise the dharmic tenets (to an extent) sub-consciously in our daily lives but just don’t attribute it to our inherent value system.

    • Jithu says:

      Thanks. Will try to write more articles.

      • Santi Dash says:

        Looks like you have got most of the content from Rajiv Malhotr’s work. What prevented you to give reference to his work, So that the curious reader would have got more details? Is it Dharmic to do so? Do you understand the concept of lineage which is critical to the preservation of the knowledge system. Are you part of the problem or the solution?

  10. pp_chn says:

    dharma requires hierarchy model for a society. it isnt enough to keep saying politics have to be run as per dharma. as long as our educated keep making excuses for “equality” , “democracy” politics cant be run as per dharma.

    • Jithu says:

      Fully agree. There need to be more conversations and debates on our constitution. After all it is modeled after the Western societies and hence their philosophy is blindly applied on us. But that is possible only when the people demand discussions on it. And Dharma could be the best platform from which those demands could be made.

      • pp_chn says:

        When asked, people will gladly agree that ‘Dharma’ should be guiding principle. But when you tell them, a King (say for eg Travancore raja) should be the highest authority, then they will whine 🙂

        • Jishnu says:

          Modern society’s founding principle is ego, so all that makes people feel they have the right to decide, judge etc, without actually even having the freedom to make their own ways of life, is good enough. That is how the west is fooling its own people and people of other societies that it is attacking and trying to subvert. This fraud is pervasive in christian-communist arguments: when you say missionaries are defrauding gullible people their typical counter is that you are insulting the intelligence of masses 🙂 So fraud, immorality, aggression, hegemony everything is done under the carpet of ego pampering whose grand and glorious victims you get to see abundantly among Hindus.

    • Jishnu says:

      Dharma ‘s language dharma goes by how things work, what is the nature of things (it is rooted in nature, of the world, of human, of human collectivities). A basic mistake we often commit is to see it as a deliberate organization of society – it is not. Stratification as you said is inherent in nature and one can only understand or see things from where one stands. The one having subtler understanding can see what the one with more gross understanding, but not the other way round: hence democracy cannot work because the more numerous are the ones with lesser/grosser understanding of nature.

      Left to itself, human society will take a stratified form anyway. It is when it is prevented that artificial constructs like democracy are needed. Christian barbarians needed such construct to avoid tyrranical rule because they did not have a natural order in the first place. Hindu society has one and it is being destroyed – and the attempt of well meaning ones is unfortunately in the direction of destruction of that order.

      • pp_chn says:

        Agree that hierarchy is in built in human society & nature. Even when society had to be rebuilt to face external threats , had to have a hierarchy. Eg. the position of emperor in japanese society. Right now Hindus unwilling to accept advantages that a hierarchichal society provides.

        • Xiang Chen says:

          Sorry but there is no hierarchy in Nature except among animals (Law of stronger) eg the sun shines in the same way for every things on Earth thus grass receives more sun than leaves of a tree…but royalists never asked for more sun on biggest and more beautifull trees. Why ?

          • Jishnu says:

            No, sun does not shine the same way “for” everything. Sun shines in *one way* but *not the same way* for everyone and everything. It enlightens those with vision, just adds heat to blind, gives greater heat in desert and greater food in a thick forest without spoiling the shade under the trees heating those above the trees and so on. Such diversity is independent of the universality of sun (which is also limited to the distance within solar system), and is caused by what we call upAdhi or the “container” that is receiving the same universal phenomenon. Therefore the fulfillment that each being achieves from the same natural infinity is different and that is what creates stratification, both in nature and in human society.

        • Jishnu says:

          Society should have sheaths and stratification both – probably the concentric sheaths of society centering on orthodoxy with outer sheaths being more prone to “flexibility” and lacking permanence (hence reliability) is not sufficiently studied by today’s H, while it was a common knowledge in traditions.

    • Dr. MS says:

      I believe in equality and democracy. But equality requires respect for diversity of abilities, skills and contributions…so we are diverse in our abilities, skills and capabilities but we have equal say in matters of governance, budget distribution and collaboration. We must also have flexible leadership where a leader does not become a dictator or an autocrat or a patronizing patriarch.

      I also believe democracy requires lot of education, sense of social responsibility and a willingness to listen, think, learn, demand relevant and useful information, negotiate and collaborate.

      The problem with the world, including India, is that we have lot of people from the oppressed classes, including women, who are coming out of centuries of feudalism, patriarchy and highly segregated, exploited and suppressed environments. Like the oppressed class everywhere they want, they desire and they demand…but they don’t know how to participate, collaborate and how to change systems without making them dictatorial or anarchies.

      • pp_chn says:

        when you say people are of diverse capabilities & skills, its clear that they CANNOT have EQUAL say in matters of governance & setting national policy. Rest of your comment is typical leftist BS, best ignored 🙂

      • Arya says:

        There r sm problems as ‘genuine’ and sm problem as ‘perceived’….. due to intellectual domain dominated by leftist/westernist/missionary/islamist sympathizer/supporter…………a lot of problem are of ‘perceived ‘ nature, solution of which lies in changing narrative….which is tough task…..for dat we hav to mainstream counter view…..for dat needs proportionate ‘intellectual space’, ‘media space’, ‘academicians space’,’art/culture/theater/drama/literature’ etc……..which is at present dominated completely by leftist/liberals…………in order to making inroads in dese domains, we need to have sympathetic regime continuously for 2 decades……….so…electioneering is d most imp job….2ndly……training n awareness to like minded dharmic people to propagate view to d common mass by using multitude of ‘perception mgmty tools’ ………………….e.g websites/fb group/media channel/news paper/magazine/grass root level activities/RSS-Voudhik………….etc…..

  11. AR says:

    Dear Jithu,

    Brilliant!! Brilliant write up! Kudos for this. Somebody had to say this, and I am very happy IF via you has expressed it so well here.

    However, towards the end, you faltered a little bit — that is with reference to ‘Vasudeva Kutumbhakam’.

    Sincerely request you to please have a look at this – http://bharatendu.com/2008/08/29/the-hoax-called-vasudhaiva-kutumbakam-1-hitopadesha/ incisive take on VK (which has been repeated endlessly by even the best of our thinkers, scholars and leaders.

    Except that, this is a superb post. Keep it up!

    • Jithu says:

      I did already have a look at it, on how its originally used in the hitopadesha contrary to its modern usage. But that doesn’t diminish the fact on how Hindus looked upon the world. Lot of actions do also justify the practice of VK. Also there are other equivalents to VK, in other language. The one I know of for sure is in Tamil, where the Sanga poet calls the whole world as a family and every human as his relative.

  12. Dr. MS says:

    Since I started commenting on this website I have been accused of being a Christian fundamentalist, Muslim fundamentalist, a Communist, an Atheist, a Polytheist and a Fascist. Indians play the category game better than their colonial masters now.

    In my university visits in India I noticed that the ability of a scholar to get invited to talks, or to be recruited to a faculty position, was tied to specific ideology they embraced or the institution supported. Somebody said embracing or following one of five ideologies will get you recruited to some Indian universities: Capitalism, Communism, Atheism, Islamic Religious sympathizer or supporter or being Christian (in name or in ideology).

    Except for one institution everything fell into one or two or three of these categories very well.

    I shall say no more.

    Returning to India after 30 years, as a single Indian woman academic, who has traveled and read extensively, has been disappointing and exhausting. That is a fact.

    • Eternal Bonfire says:

      This is very important thing said by Dr. MS….. and not just this ….. you cannot crack entrance to bureaucracy untill you are a leftist sypathiser….. students preparing for bureaucracy are so strongly advised to read leftist mouthpiece The Hindu and its sister magazine Frontline….. and the moment you start inclining towards balanced dharmic values and reflect it in your answer you are sure to fail this exam…. because professors who check your papers are majority leftist intellectuals….. text books you read are written by leftist….. no wonder why some bureaucrats and IPS were allegedly found maoist sympathisers ….. and the biggest nonsense which has taken place is rural and tribal folks fighting for their legitimate rights have been usurped by leftist as left wing fighters….. and whole narration in indian media goes by this name….. this harms the poor tribals only….. their legitimate complaints are generalised by tagging leftism…. shear nonsense…… since narrative in india is hijacked by flawed philosophies hence their solution becomes hard to locate. …. disease is being misdiagnosed.

    • guest says:

      Continue on your work, I agree with many of your ideas. Spread them among your students, be creative and chart your own path. Tagore said, Ekala Chalo, …and in that find your tribe.

  13. Dr. MS says:

    Thank you for the article. May we have more articles on how to improve the psychology of Hindus, and their communication, so their “contradictions ; their sexism, subtle or obvious ; illogic ; poor understanding of Hinduism and poor argument skills or poor writing skills” does not become a liability to the community, and serves as an advantage to those who hate Indians, Hindus or deny discrimination against Hindus.

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