The Dumb Day
If ever one needs proof for the existence of the ability to make money by fooling gullible people, one only needs to look at the behavior of those who observe Valentine’s day. Leaving aside the fact that the person after whom the day is named was an aggressive proselytizer and a Catholic bishop who used deception and force to such a great extent in order to convert people to Christianity that it resulted in otherwise peaceful people who could no longer take his barbarism to beat him to death, the behavior of those who celebrate Valentine’s day is the triumph of the capitalist class which has succeeded in manipulating the minds of its victims and has made them part with money in exchange for junk.
In a 1907 copy of the American Florist, one enterprising businessman wrote, “In previous years, I had given that day no special preparation; few of my customers ever thought of sending flowers for a valentine, and but a little extra demand for flowers was occasioned.”
He then uses words like “experiment a little” to describe the behavior of his victims and states, “To experiment a little and see if a few special orders could not be had on St. Valentine’s day…”
This businessman had experimented on 5,000 victims and in his own words, “It is certainly a winner.” He then goes on to say that he would target 25,000 and brag that he had the ability to control minds to such an extent that he could even replicate similar behavior for St. Patrick’s day.
It is little wonder then that he began his report by gloating over his success and praising himself by saying, “One of the brightest ideas that ever occurred to me, measured by the results…”
The Weekly Florists’ Review advised florists in 1910, “Advertise If You want Business” and described how an advertisement in 1909 “aided materially in increasing business for that day.”
In 1917, Walden’s Stationer and Printer, a semi-monthly magazine devoted to the interests of the stationers and printers of America, published an article which pointed out that greeting card manufacturers did not obtain as much profit from selling greeting cards on Valentine’s day as they did on Christmas and there was a need to “build up a trade” that would “create a greater source of profit for both the manufacturer and the retailer.”
How was this to be done? The article goes on to say that the steps necessary were to “educate [brainwash] the public on the greater use of cards” and to “educate the retailers to handle a larger assortment of cards, a greater activity in pushing sales and a knowledge of the profits possible.”
According to the American Florist published in 1918, “The St. Valentine’s day and Mothers’ day advertising campaign, so successfully carried out in 1917 by the Chicago Florists’ Club, will again be undertaken this year upon a national scale…” Thus Valentine’s day is not the only day on which they exploit weak minded people into buying cards.
“LET’S ALL GET BEHIND St. Valentine’s Day This Year and Make it the BIGGEST DAY in the History of Our Business” screams a headline in the American Florist published in 1920. This article goes on to detail some methods to trick the people who are foolish enough to fall for their tactics. Some of these methods prove that those who follow Valentine’s day are immature and childish as they are enamored by stickers. “PUT STICKERS on every Package” is one of the methods that is listed.
The Florists’ Review was explicit about this fact in 1913 and expressed disdain for its victims when it stated, “The public is ripe for it. Ready at hand, only waiting to be turned to use… Children may exchange the crimped paper contraptions… but for full-grown men and women these things are impossible.” Clearly the target of the efforts of businessmen were people whose intelligence level were at the level of children.
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The article goes on to state, “We all know how quickly and easily Mothers’ day was pushed into profitable prominence by the florists. It will be even easier with Valentine’s day…”
The American Stationer and Office Outfitter from 1922 provides yet another example of how the behavior of weak minded people was controlled by those who planted the idea of exchanging greeting cards on Valentine’s day. A headline from the publication cannot be more direct in stating the intentions when it says, “Valentine’s Day can be Made a Bigger Profit Feature.”
The people who fall for the cheap tricks of the business class have also been swayed by dumb superstitions. The English Illustrated Magazine lists many of them and just one of them illustrates the foolish nature of the followers of Valentine’s day. One such superstition that the followers of this day believe in is that birds choose their mates on this day and the air is therefore filled with love-germs.
I asked an executive of a greeting card firm with plans to expand into India about this history and his contempt for the followers of Valentine’s day was outdone only by his contempt for the journalists in India. According to him, the former class were dumb but Indian journalists were not merely dumb but suffered from some sort of strange inferiority complex and imitated the white people in the West.
The reason maybe because they had never succeeded in their lives and resented the success of others in India. He pointed out that these journalists never imitated the blacks of the West and that the greeting card sellers merely need to generate a controversy to exploit this mindset of the journalists and get them to write in favor of the capitalist class that sells greeting cards.
Not only do the journalists write in favor of all the foolish expenses of this day, they themselves purchase expensive junk every year. Clearly, the observers of Valentine’s day prove that a fool and his money are soon parted.
A jokey moment.
A priest, looking serious and flinty, is throwing water from a small pot (a kamandalam) at a young girl shouting, “In the name of Jesus I compel you, in the name of Jesus I compel you…”
A big burly dark dusky woman walks in and grabs the pot (kamandalam) and yells, “Aareay, going to report you to your boss for wasting time, and to the water board for WASTING WATER”
Board exam question: How much water are Evangelicals wasting in this conversion process? Answer within one decimal point is okay.
Even Trump, accused by some of being a bit of a over the top showman, has been irked by an Evangelical Christian candidate who he says is lying and is not a good Christian, and he is going to sue him.
Are you guys saying Indian Christians, the conservative ones, like Evangelical Christians, or political ones, are lying? Many American Protestants believe in the “protest against religious hegemony” that Protestant history reveals, and “maintaining independence against tyranny” (which is why they opposed European Catholic institutions, its power, persecution and fled to the so-called New World)..
I cannot put my finger on it. Are you guys saying converted Indian Christians are stupid or ignorant or playing dumb cultural politics?
I am too naive, innocent and sometimes don’t get these guys and gals, including some smart alec (or smart aleck) women in these institutions like MIDS who say vulgar things about Hindus.. Very strange people.
Please clarify without using abusive or crude language…
I tell you want’s even dumber…In India getting text advertisements and messages, through my Vodafone (that needs to be investigated for their ‘seedy, sleazy and sludgery” business practices with political agenda), for “Valentine’s Day”!
I get fewer such interruptions and interference in the US than in India on Valentine’s Day.
I did not get one advertisement for Vasanth Panchami day, but I got huge number of text messages from Indian companies and local businesses in Chennai, Indian advertising their wares and services for Valentine’s day. Very strange.
One blogger wrote, “There is an entire group of unevolved unintelligent converts who are now getting into political and cultural issues of India that scares even Americans.”
As one American noted, “We American Christians are scared of Christian fundamentalists and extremists among us…who sound like Christian Jihadists. We are also scared of converts in third world countries who are not smart, secure or culturally rooted. We see them as Christian idiots or crooks, not Americans.We want them to stay in their countries and not migrate to the US”. This from an American Christian…
Listen up converts!
And if you get calls from some 911…number in Chennai, with songs mocking you or playing dirty songs, lying or playing deviant politics that would not even work in Alabama or Arkansas, know that this a defensive, sleazy, and projected response against you opposing these kinds of sleazy conversions.
Somebody should do research on how news and various shows in the media make Hindus hate their own customs and simple Hindu rituals. I rarely see women wearing a red dot on their forehead in Chennai. When I ask why they say, “Others don’t do it!” or “People stare, make fun of me or joke about it!” or “It is not liked in corporations and businesses” or “I was told by local people in the news that kumkum has chemicals and is bad for the body”. Of course unregulated lipstick and shampoo are not bad for the body…just kumkum and vibhuthi. Who is sending these kinds of messages to the ordinary people,. young people and easily manipulated people of india?
In places like Chennai Indian culture is dead, distorted, diluted or is slowly getting decimated. You can see people in niqab or in jeans…not in sarees or salwar kameezes that much. Very strange city. And this huge migration of Northeastern Christian Converts to some neighborhoods, without diversity, is not helping them or Tamil Indians or Tamil Hindus. Diversity is both a cultural thing and a state of mind. We need to do a better job in the latter.
And conversions are sleazy in India..
You are right MS. I agree with you. I work in an MNC and wear a tuft as i am doing full yajurvedic study. Every time i shave my head and leave the tuft alone, i am made fun of by my own Hindu friends and colleagues. My American(Not Indian migrants but Apple Pie Americans) colleagues are accepting and some even ask questions like the significance of this in an effort learn about that.
I feel this entire discussion about Valentines day and opposing it, is crap. Why give such importance to a non-event? Ask many of the Hindus who oppose this, to practice their dharma properly. They will run away. To many of them “Hinduism” is just a token phrase. They will visit quaint, far of remote temples in the villages of Tanjore/mayiladuturai, take good photos and put it on Whats app. When asked about the name of the God/Goddess of that temple, they cant remember. Some consider it too primitive to remember it. When asked about the Stala Purana of the temples they visited they balk in horror as if they are bitten by a snake. They say that they don’t care for such primitive cacophony. They were all the while busy “Connecting” with the universal spirit to bother about this nonsense being spit out by the priest. Obviously the guy was after a few more Rupees. They don’t even care to wear the proper traditional clothing needed to be worn. They go in their 3/4th long stone “unwashes” and shirts/tops. But they can remember the dates of friends day, mothers day etc. Also the same Hindus when visiting churches for marriages or funerals go in the ordained dress code. Damn hypocrites!!!
I disagree with you on one point though “In places like Chennai Indian culture is dead, distorted, diluted or is slowly getting decimated”. There are still many many people in Chennai who still follow Vedic culture to the word. I myself know more than 25 of these people. Also in many remote villages pristine pure Vedic culture still lives. I only pray these “Cowboy/Yuppie” Hindus don’t go there and spoil that too.
Your ranting is at times immature, but I understand your frustrations. Hindus have no pride, unity and people like you are unable “to accept diversity”. If you want people to accept your tuft of hair then you too have to accept the fact that there are those who will go to temple and not remember every Bhagavan for your ego satisfaction. You too are arrogant and judgmental…that is why the community dies. No ability to expand and think beyond trivial issues like tuft of hair and remember every God and Goddess. Grow up, or stop pretending you are a Hindu.
Well your arrogance and moreover your dense “American Yuppie” ignorance of temple etiquette is pretty jarring to say the least. I will recommend you to a course of Agamic study to cure this. I don’t care a damn whether people accept my tuft or not. Here also your tawdry and “Single cellular nervous system” based understanding shows up. I meant that while i am perfect with others they don’t do it to me.
“You too have to accept the fact that there are those who will go to
temple and not remember every Bhagavan for your ego satisfaction. You
too are arrogant and judgmental…that is why the community dies. No
ability to expand and think beyond trivial issues like tuft of hair and
remember every God and Goddess. Grow up, or stop pretending you are a
Hindu.”
I see from the above remarks that you do not understand anything of sanatana Dharma. The likes of you do not have any anushtana or achara which is the basis of daily life of a Vedic hindu. It is such people who have preserved Vedic culture for posterity, not semi Americans like you. The tuft is not a small matter. Of course how could i expect you, with no understanding of the dharma shastras, to understand that!!!. This single statement alone make your ignorance “Blinding”. Also if you cannot remember the name of the gods and goddesses again which is part of devotion, which is what constitutes listening or shravana of the Divine Leela, then you do not have Shradda. The very purpose of having a stala purana is defeated. Well again hmmm, do i have to repeat that you find it incomprehensible??.
As for your extraordinary ability to expand and think beyond trivial issues, I guess you have managed to realize the “Nirguna Brahaman” and managed to enter nirvakalpa samadhi and managed to feel “Shivoham” now!!!.
Understand this clearly ,i am re-emphasizing this, that though the number of people that follow ancient Vedic/Hindu culture truly may be few(And for them having shika is not trivial as you quaintly state), they are the one’s that preserve it in pristine purity and transmit it so. Not surely by rootless people like you and in the main stream society it dies because of people like you.
Happy crapintines day to all the chrislamic dumb useless analcunts & sickular fake Hindus. We don’t give $hit bout yer pansy flowers, dumb cards, eat shuffle shag & shit routine so just drop dead already losers bwahahahaha.
I read your article and see nothing wrong with what the Florists did. Creating a Demand shows sheer genius on part of the Florists. This simple pushing of a special day for lovers enabled Florists, Card Manufacturers and Chocolate Makers to earn their bread and butter.
Why not try promoting local flower shop owners. Why not try promoting Shiva-Sati and Ram-Sita story on love Cards and make young ones aware of their immortal love. Why not promote brilliant lines from Sunderkand like:
Tatva Prem Karu Mam Aru Tora, Januhu Priya Eku Man Mora |
So Manu Sada Rahat Tohi Pahi, Janu Priti Rasu Etan Mahi ||
(Sunderkand Chopai 14).
You Hindu Defense League types just try rejecting every foreign based ideas. Ever tried using it to your own advantage. You could sell it and earn serious money from it. Instead you start the stupid Parents Worship Day. Yeah right… Like young couples in love are going to listen to you. They will hate you even more then they hate you just now.
” Hindu Defense Leaqgue” ! What is that? This man is talking about commercial origin of an event.It has become pure commerce.You mean Hindus or ” Hindu Defense league” did not know how to make love before this ” Velentine” or whatever? If ” Velentine” is so lovable, how is it that 53 % of Americac marriages end up in divorces?
The answers you seek are in my comment to which you impatiently replied. The first question of yours can be found by using google.
Stats do not matter to those in love. 95% of people die in their bed. Ever seen anyone stop using beds? Even then I suggest you try talking to young couples in love. No point in arguing with me.
we should ‘decommercialize holidays’ not commercialise them. –stats matter when people are dejected and their desperation and depression spills into the society. People do not always look for new partners because they want to find love, they will do with basic companionship because these societies lack large networks of people and living alone leads to increasing isolation which slowly disintegrates a person’s sense of self. In India where children live with parents even after they get married and there is a continuation in family, such things really do not make sense, but only promote mindless spending. besides much of europe does not celebrate this holiday. this is very much an american holiday with economics in mind.
Good response! But this person ( Luffy) will not be convinced.It is love’s labour lost! Btw did not know that Europe does not “celebrate” this day.Wise guys!
There are hardly any major celebrations in Europe. I was asking friends and others, about this. I was told that in some countries they started with donating money to research organisations that focussed on heart. Which I thought was a great way of ‘celebrating’!!. Ofcourse commercialisation seeps in–but in India it is sheer APING….
Whatever foreign ideas deserve to be REJECTED outright by us Hindus have to be rejected.
Our Ramana Bhagavan is categorically AGAINST needless plucking of flowers turning them into bouquets , garlands & exchanging be they on birthdays or whatever. Birthday celebrations by lighting candles on cakes etc are foreign imports.
I would want Hindus to get in touch with their Holy Book – The Vedas. Many do not even know so. Have been ingesting all alien lifestyles with ‘paravallae paravallae’ excuses.
Good advice!But could be lost on those misguided young lovers who are being taken up the garden path by these commercial interests.
U r well groomed in the pedophile library to put ur arguments:
“…Why not try promoting Shiva-Sati and Ram-Sita story on love Cards and make young ones aware of their immortal love….”
Typical deception technique by sentimental deception to fool by making them believe that it was so n so done by your loving Jesus/Santa Claus etc. Then get them Baptised in ur backyard. I post two lines from ur post above:
“…You Hindu Defense League types just try rejecting every foreign based ideas….” Lovely exclamation. How civilised and academic style? But your deceptive sarcastic hate is very well apparent from your start…You Hindu Defense League …God bless u.
“…Ever tried using it to your own advantage. You could sell it and earn serious money from it….” How sweet??? Now v come to your celestial style of minting money. This is what, I wish, you Western elites could understand, but only if you come out of your racist hate n bigotry against us. Get to the bottom of “SPIRITUALITY” instead of ephemeral pleasure seeking in this perishable world. You want to impose your kind but only in futile pursuit. OK, you did succeed in making us “pseudo-English” by imposing ur language. Did it change our colour too which you hate??? I could go on to reply your puerile blather similarly and more rudely. You know how your Church is a most heinous spying organisation working in collusion with Western spy wings? Please no apologias, thanks.
Agreed & cosigned.
Beware this Luffy is anti Modi.
Haha luffy is a paid troll tryin to hijack the truth, it should rent a brain or at least a clue or just shut the fuck up. Hindu unity & cooperation is the the biggest threat for these muslim & christian mafia.
By now I am used to slandering. Go ahead make my day. Keep abusing. You people don’t read Gita but talk about Vedas. If you did read the Gita you would not be abusing anyone cause Krishna says in Chapter 17 Shloka 16 to use kind and humble words to one and all.
I don’t really care anymore about approval from your kind. I am fine with the labels. Have a good day sir.
Get lost.
Don’t worry, c is already lost. Nut case of egoist bundle.
Glad, at least u hv read Geeta, even if for self aggrandisement on net. Thanks, it will certainly cleanse ur heart n mind, if ur efforts r honest n sincere. U dont need to quote Chs. here but cleanse ur heart more than anything else. Lord, whatever name u assign unlike these criminal Abrahamic Brigades of imbecile monotheism, Hinduism preaches only clean ur heart to attain “SAMADHI” = Enlightenment.
In fact, too much reading is harmful to ur “SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT” as it fills u wid lofty pride like u here. You will never attain “SAMADHI”, for sure but just waste ur time blathering, moaning n groaning.
Respectfully dear, u r trying 2 fool here 2 ur best ability but ur criminal pedophile house of Vatican is now so defamed that ur targeting India is best known to me and bloggers here. Vatican has trained many fakesters like u imposters to fool Hindus to look alike. These criminal christies wud go all out of the way to mimick Hinduism and try to destroy it from within by cheat, deceit, fool n fake. They even start worshipping Hindu Gods but keep d figure of Jesus too in the background and then get the innocent gullible village folks to accept Jesus by proxy. Vatican studies the Hindu psyche and socio-political setup to feed US via CIA collaboration whereby a strategy is built to enact by all fair n foul means. Most dangerous combination on earth, even worst that Baghdadi is = Vatican + CIA combination.
Upstarts like this Luffy & many youngistanis are so stupid they think google is the authority. Lots of such Indians are convinced there was no Knowledge before google.
Like “devil citing the Scriptures to suit its purpose” luffy has come up with some quote.
One woman from Tamil Nadu wrote in a newspaper ” …Bullets digest faster than the cheedais i make…so i prefer to celebrate halloween instead of Janmashtami….cut a few holes in my bedsheets , cover my daughters’ faces with them…hand out candies scooped out of my jar & it is so fun….”. Full of such puerile crap.
Yeah, not just Google but worst – Wikipedia is their best compendium, better than Bible, Quran, or Vedas, Geeta etc. Hindus are completely demoralised and taken over by Western culture and power, money, glamour etc.
Exactly…… Taking up trivial issues like these and Moral Policing Young couples is wrong…….
For additional colour (& humour) on this topic, here’s a photo collage of Marxist & socialist Valentine cards
All Chutney Marys and Pickle Johns can enjoy this bogus Holiday! Better still all the little Johns can give a Rose to their Catholic Priest so that they can feel just like in the US! What a twisted mindset we have created among the Wannabe Johns and Mary’s by Desh Drohi forces.
Ahhhh… Don’t be like that… I myself am a Hindutvawadi.. But this ranting against Valentines day is foolish. …..Just enjoy it…..
How about celebrating Thanks Giving and Christmas by every Hindutvawadi or Probably Columbus Day, because Indeed Columbus originally wanted to land and discover India? Moronization of Importing Western Culture/Traditon without understanding it’s background and purpose (which is no way related to Indic Culture or Tradition) is today’s definition of Hindutvawadi. Film, Food and Fashion is the only thing Moron Indians are confined to and spent their entire life in that.
Can you care to give at least one reason why should an Indian ( Assuming Hindu or Sanatana Dharmi) needs to celebrate Valentine? Don’t give me a reason because Media shows it that’s why? Hindu’s have several occassion to celebrate “Love”. Just saying the article is Foolish is itslef is a proof of one’s foolishness and dumbness.
Plz read my above comment.. i.e reply to Savarkar’s Disciple
And I just said no need to make such a fuss by taking up trivial issues
No wonder your Golwalkar Mamus pankha.Similarly why don’t you just enjoy it when people attack Shani Shingnapur or convert Van Vaasis to Christians?Man you RSS wallas are such confused idiots or is it that your Macaulay’s education is finally taking the toll on you.I didn’t hear any ranting in this article but hear a lot of ranting about noise and environment pollution by the Adharmi brigade during Ganapati,Durga Puja,Diwali,Holi etc.Animal Sacrifice wrong when Hindus do it but when Papa Secularists favourite child Muhammadianists do it on their Eid there is no hue and cry(Ranting).First of all Chaddi Swayamsevak Sangh has an incomplete incompetent ideology and your confusion speaks volumes of how your kinda people end up becoming Poison Pills for Dharma.Dont call yourselves Hindutvadi unless your a Savarkarite.
If I am not wrong, we had vasantotsav and kamotsav, where young people displayed their affections in the form of dance etc. but it was also very much related to spring and its onset….as was the case for nature based religions and festivals….
We have “Kedar-Gouri Vrat” which is celebrated to mark the Love between two individuals. It is a ceblebration that marks the unconditional love. But Moron Indians are all about what America celebrates or what is their Cable TV broadcast.
Ooooooookaaaaaaaayy.. Well I don’t get why you labelled me a sickular… I just meant there’s no need to make such a fuss about Valentines day…….
And Dude I am a hardcore Savarkarite…. Hmm well I am out of words here.. I am still laughing at your comment.. you took me the wrong way…Calm down bro….Taking up such trivial issues and moral policing young people is not Hindutva……. Well I feel you get what I am trying to say here…
And don’t go labeling around RSS as incompetent… You are too arrogant there..
You and every Hindutvawadi owes the very existence of Hindutva movement to the RSS… Without RSS there would have been no Hindutva
… NO Bjp … NO Modi…
Veer Savakar died long ago, but his dream of Hindutva did not.. It was Kept alive by the RSS It was the RSS who who did his last rites
Two thousand RSS workers gave his funeral procession a guard of honour.
Its the swaemsayeks who are working day and night on the ground to make our dream a reality… So stop trolling and blaming others and join RSS and do some actual work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had this discussion about what RSS is and what its not…by d way no1s trolling you….Apparently I am no Mallik Kafur n don’t think of you as Khusro Khan so I care a zilch…Did I mention anywhere about moral policing…your a kid who can hardly grow a mustache n know very lil about how much damage Chaddi Sanghis have done by diluting Savarkars Hindutva…and as far as ur GURUJI is concerned he joined hands with Khangress n destroyed the chance of “AKHANDA BHARAT” coz Khangress won those seats since Savarkar didn’t put up any candidates on the assurance of Golghumakar and guess what those parts ended being part of Papisthan….so if Bharat is not Akhand then your Guruji is responsible for it and with confused papus like you and ur Moochu Madhav’s I hope Akhand Bharat with Muhammadianist being majority does not happen since it would be a disaster for the Hindus(Eg:Mallapuram,Malda,Assam,Kashmir)….since your someone who supposedly views RMs videos I dunno how much you internalise the issues he addresses and hence just don’t understand imposition of foreign Beliefs n its implications…most muhammadians r funded for this particular dumb day so that a Hindu girl falls victim to Love Jihad….anyways I know RSS from the inside there are many places its falling short and young kids like you should not worship RSS like our Hindus did for Gandhi….and this is also applicable to every Hindu Hero including Savarkar so that we r not blinded by the demands of today…
You are that Savarkar guy with the Captian America DP Or the Bengali Savarkarite……….
Are We Alive?
Is this fiery and heroic aspect of devotion to our motherland alive in our hearts today? If that spirit had been there in our leaders and in our common folk, could Partition have taken place? Would they not have risen uncompromisingly, heroically as one man against all such machinations of the British and the Muslim, prepared to shed their last drop of blood for maintaining the scared integrity of the motherland? Alas, that did not happen. On the contrary, people, led by the leaders, were busy in celebrations on the advent of so-called independence!
There are some who tell us, “Bygones are bygones. What is the use of raking up old dead issues? After all, Partition is now a settled fact.” How is this ever possible? How can a son forget and sit idle when the sight of his mutilated mother stares him in the face every day? Forget? No true son can ever forget or rest till she becomes once again her complete whole. If Partition is a settled fact, we are here to unsettle it. There is, in fact, no such thing as a ‘settled fact’ in this world. Things get settled or unsettled solely by the will of man. And man’s will is steeled by a spirit of dedication to a cause, which he knows to be righteous and glorious.
There are some others who justify Partition saying, “After all, Hindus and Muslims are brothers. Partition is just a brotherly division of their property.” But have we never heard of children cutting up their mother saying that she is their common property? What depths of depravity! Motherland has verily become an object of bargaining, only a land of enjoyment, Bhogabhoomi, just like a hotel, and not a Dharmabhoomi, Karmabhoomi and Punyabhoomi. The tearing away of the limbs of our mother and the gory blood-bath of millions and millions of our kith and kin is the price that we have paid for that ignoble attitude. Even today the tragedy of Partition has not come to a close. Kashmir has been partitioned. And now it appears Nagaland is well on the way.
——– This is from Golwarkar Gurujis Book Vichardhan OR Bunch Of Thoughts
I can give you tons of examples…..
You should really read all his books before ranting like
“We our NationHood defined”
“Shri Guruji and Indian Muslims”
“Shri Guruji and the Christian Missions”
…
And you Ungrateful idiot , give me one other organization that is doing a better job than RSS and Iwill join them immediately..
But the fact is there NO ONE ELSE !…
Right now , only RSS stands between Bharat and total political dominance of the Sickulars….
I have already agreed before that RSS has its faults…
But its the ONLY ONE… So instead join it.. and improve it..
What kinda Savarkarite would have DP of Kaptaan Amrika…..I guess this tells a lot about the kinda of SAVARKARITE you are….
Anyways since you are Golmalkar Pankha “After all, Hindus and Muslims are brothers…” I will give u taste of Savakarite Zhanzhani Tikhat Rasa-
“Speaking in the same context, Gandhiji said, “I am a friend of the
Muslims. I have a blood relationship with them. They are my brothers.”Now what is wrong with this? The Muslims are truly our blood brothers. A majority of them were forcibly converted to Islam; hence Hindu blood still runs through their blood vessels. On a still higher level, Muslims too are humans, therefore, so by virtue of being human we share the same blood.
So didn’t Mahatmaji tell the truth when he called the Muslims his blood brothers?
But these naïve Hindus! They immediately point out – Last year, when a revolutionary had said that the blood of Pratap and Shivaji courses through our veins, Gandhiji had responded with righteous indignation, “No! Our veins can’t have blood of Shivaji or Pratap! Hindus have different castes;therefore you can’t say that a Brahmin or a Bania has the blood of a Maratha or a Rajput.
And don’t you see, wherein lies the magnanimity in one Hindu admitting that he has the blood of a Shivaji, Pratap or Govindsingh; that they are his brothers? A common man may honestly say this. But to say that Muslims are one’s friends, that they are one’s blood brothers; and that too on the very day when the Hindu blood of Shraddhananda was shed by the Muslim blood, adds to the glory of a Mahatma.
Now, if you can’t say that you have the blood of Shivaji, Vasishtha or Shraddhananda because the castes prevent Hindus from intermarriages, then to say that the blood of a Muslim, who was forcibly converted from one of these castes, courses through your veins appears inconsistent. To the naïve Hindus this will appear as inconsistent. But they should know that such logical rules are not binding on the Mahatmas. Otherwise, how could the Mahatmaji, who firmly held that it is wrong to wield a weapon against a rascal raping your very sister as it amounts to violence, take sides with the British and obstinately go about till he was ill asking Indian youth to join British army in order to massacre the Germans?”
Reference The Gandhian Confusion V D Savarkar Pg 10-11
I advice you to stop your Chaddi pehen ke Fool Khila hay activities and read Savarkarite works along with Voice of India books and obviously the current Hindu Intellectuals like RM.
Why not be grateful to my parents,my Guru,my previous lives Karma,Swatantra Veer Savarkar and Shyama Prasad Mukherjee and HMS for not letting the whole of Bengal go into East Pakistan and why should I be grateful to Chaddi Swayam Sevak Sangh coz it managed to survive seriously thats your excuse for producing idiots who says I am a Hindu and a patriot so I am a Hindu Nationalist but end up asking Hindu Temples for Gold so that they can be used for Sickular purposes while not removing Article 30.
Do I need to tell you about how Ungrateful Chaddiwalla Sangh Bhangar Janta party is to people like Shyama Prasad Mukherjee for deserting the Article 370 in Kashmir for which SPM gave his life and BJPs still bowing down to Muhammadian Goonda tactics.Whats the point of having 282 seats and still not have the Cojones to fight fire with fire I told you earlier also RSS dont tolerate or let people go up the ladder who believe in tit for tat policy with regards to Muhammadianist or Christies or Commies they are happy in status quo attitude and hence they have adopted an even more confused Secular Socialist Child like the BJP.
You dont understand the RSS will not improve its their DHARMA to be docile and being beaten black and blue or else why doesn’t it fight back in WB or Kerala??See kid you are completely unaware that the RSS is a coward Gandhian organization,agreed that there are many good people but being good does not justify for giving up on Kshatriyaness while being gullible and naive.For instance the RSS works in remote areas amongst Vanvasis but what do they do when a Naxal or terrorist comes to them,they end up making a Gandhian out of that person,problem is you need to understand you can only fight violence with violence,compare it to Savarkar in Kalapaani where he used Hindu Dacoits and Goondas to suppress the Muhammadian Goondas and by the end the Musalmans were also saying RAM RAM for reference read My Transportation to life VD Savarkar.
Also the Bauddhika Kshatriya part is not very encouraging since RSS Organizer distances or ostracized people like Sita Ram Goel for his works on Muhammad’s Islam or even Balraj Madhok.
TEN long years they were not in power what did your BJP Think tank Vivekananda Foundation do? why didn’t they think of who and what position should be given to whom with regards to social sciences when they come to power?(View the RMs video)
Can you imagine if the supremo was a Savarkarite do you really feel that it would have taken 10 years I mean a Savarkarite would have run a parallel govt with RSS being under his control and made life of Sonia and her Bhakts miserable but RSS is Gandhian and lacks the killer instincts and doesn’t allow anyone of that kind to go up the ladder.May be after you waste decades in Sangh u will realise what it truly stands for provided the Sangh lasts that long.
Please read the comments on this Indiafacts page https://indiafacts.org/intolerance-of-the-left-a-brief-laundry-list/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fhrU0xoCgk
https://youtu.be/4dGljfTf-t4?t=911
Golmaalkar betrayed HMS and Savarkar https://youtu.be/4dGljfTf-t4?t=1935
I told you noone and nothing should be beyond criticism this includes Heroes like Savarkar too.
https://youtu.be/jlFNgmJy6Rs?t=4208
RM in his books Being Different criticised Hindutva saying that its History Centric and Reactionary I agree about the History centic part but I believe that many times certain actions do require appropriate reactions so I dont completely agree with the second criticism.But one thing that he didn’t mention in his book which he has mentioned in his lectures about Hindutva was “INCULTURATION”.This video will explain by what I mean
https://youtu.be/ae3jSg8AWLI?t=135
By accepting Musalmans Allah on a similar platform to Swadharma,Ishtha Devata,Kul Devata we (Hindutvavadis) would make a huge mistake coz they believe that there is no God but Allah and they dont believe in Swadharma but in UMMAH(the Islamic Community) hence they come in groups never in a one on one fight.
So whats my solution should we accept Malhotra’s claim completely while giving up on Hindutva my answer is no we accept Hindutva(Savarkarite) as form of Appadh Dharma as Sita Ram Goel used to say Appadh Dharma is not Sanatan Dharma and Savarkar also called Hindutva as Hinduness and not Hinduism or Sanatan Dharma.I say Appadh Dharma is not Sanatan Dharma but without Appadh Dharma Sanatan Dharma can not survive refer Appadh Dharma of Vishwamitra eating Dog meat.Even Malhotra when he discusses the Hindu Grand Narrative mentions clearly that it can’t be the narrative of Saudi Arabia coz lets assume if there is war between Bharat and Saudi Arabia then whose side would the Musalmans be on this is the exact position that Savakar took while defining WHO IS A HINDU?-(Pirtu bhoomi and Punyabhoomi).
As long as there are external forces which wanna take over India or exclusive claims which wanna expand and there are Geopolitical boundaries Hindutva will stay the day the Geopolitical boundaries along with exclusive claims go away that day Hindutva will also wither away.
Firstly,
Sorry I mistook you for another guy…. And Thanks for the video links.. They were really good..!!!.
(I am not a fan of Rajiv Malohtra Though)
“After all, Hindus and Muslims are brothers…” . Since you started to criticize me for this line I think you should read the whole para properly once again from my comment from above … Guruji says exactly the same what you said about Punyabhumi and Karmabhoomi..
THIS IS GOING TO BE LONG Please don’t read it in a hurry.. Take your Time..
A life with Aim
The Hindu Society is a living reality which all of us feel and experience in every drop of our blood. But though we cannot define it, we can and must be able to appreciate the special features which mark out the Hindus as a distinct people. We cannot say that merely because a particular individual is not a Muslim or a Christian, he is a Hindu by the process of elimination. In our country, the Hindu is often referred to by political leaders as non-Muslim. That is not a healthy, positive way of understanding our real nature. Hindu is not a negative being. What, then, is the positive content of that word?
To a Hindu, life is not without an aim. That aim is not one of greatness measured in terms of power, position, name or fame. The realisation of his true nature-the innate Spark of Divinity, the Reality in him-which alone takes man to the state of everlasting supreme bliss, is the one great aim before him. But man has only a short span of life. How can he reach that supreme stage within such a small period? He does not know fully even about his own body even though he uses it throughout his physical existence. Then, how can he know that which is an immanent in the body? The law of cause and effect says that each action of ours – the cause – has its effect. The circle of cause and effect has to grow, develop and culminate. As such, the present existence of man cannot comprise the whole story of his real being. Since the distinctive natural urge in man is to expand and express his diving nature, he will be born again and again so long as the least trace of ignorance of his true Divine Self remains, and in every birth he will be able to make further progress if he makes honest efforts.
Be Living, Dynamic Emblems
These are just a few basic features which go to make us real, positive Hindus. It is only when we pay special attention to them, imbibe them, manifest them in our life, and stand up as real, living and dynamic emblems of those glorious concepts that our taking birth in the divine Hindu heritage will not have been in vain.
Can we, then, say confidently that we are such real, positive Hindus? Let us ask ourselves. How do we live? What are the ideals before us? What are our feelings? Are we Hindus only by the force of circumstances or by ‘accident of birth’? Or because we have remained untouched by conversion to Islam or Christianity, as the proselytisers were very few and we were very large in numbers? Is that the only meaning of our being Hindus? There is no use merely saying “Oh! We have a great culture.” What do we know of it? How do we practise it? Do we look at our individual life as an offering to society? Do we feel that we should not merely run after pelf and power but should hold aloft virtues in life? Do we feel that we should really be such men that as soon as anyone looks at us, he must be able to say, “Here is a man, who is seeking perfection in all that go to make a real human being?” Let us introspect on these lines and gradually assimilate all these distinctive Hindu traits so that we can stand before the world as positive, dynamic Hindus. Let us live up to our philosophy, our dharma, and all those great qualities, which have moulded our lives for countless generations.
Therefore, though the idea of organizing the Hindu Society may appear to be very simple, it really means that first of all we should be keenly conscious in our day-to-day life of our Hindu heritage and should mould every little aspect of our life in keeping with those great traditional values. In all that we do, in our dress, in our behavior and in all walks of our life, that stamp of positive conviction should be vividly manifest. This is the prime responsibility that rests upon us.
Reactionary Hinduism …………………. This Part Is the Most Important !!!!
But, unfortunately, what do we see all around us today? Some are Hindus, not out of conviction, but out of reaction. To give an example, our workers once approached a prominent Hindu leader during the signature collection campaign demanding ban on the slaughter of cows. But they were greatly shocked to hear him saying, “What is the use of preventing the slaughter of useless cattle? Let them die. What does it matter? After all, one animal is as good as the other. But, since the Muslims are bent upon cow-slaughter, we should make this an issue. And so, I give you my signature.” What does this show? We are to protect the cow not because the cow has been for ages an emblem of Hindu devotion but because the Muslims kill it! This is Hinduism born out of reaction, a kind of ‘negative Hinduism’.
There are some for whom, the term ‘Hindu’ is of use only to serve political objectives. Because a Congressman or a Socialist or some ‘X’ thinks in terms of ‘composite culture’, they stand up and say that they want a ‘pure’ Hindu culture. Stranger than this is the cry of ‘Hindu Communism’! A person can either be a Hindu or a Communist. He cannot be both. It only means that those who shout about ‘Hindu Communism’ know neither Communism nor Hinduism. This is all out of reaction. Once a gentleman asked me whether we are organizing Hindus in order to counteract the various activities of the Muslims. I simply told him that even if Prophet Mohammed had not been born and Islam had not come into existence, we would have taken up this work just as we are doing it today, if we had found Hindus in the same disorganized, self-forgetful condition as at present. The positive conviction that this is my Hindu Rashtra, this is my dharma, this is my philosophy which I have to live and set up as standard for all other nations to follow-well, this should be the solid basis for Hindu reorganization.
If, then, we are not to be mere ‘political Hindu animals’ or Hindus out of reaction, we must live as Hindus by conviction, capable of expressing that conviction in all aspects of our day-to-day life. The mere propagation of Hindu thought in literature and newspapers takes us nowhere.
For instance, Veer Savarkarji wrote a beautiful book ‘Hindutva’ and Hindu Mahasabha based itself on that pure philosophy of Hindu Nationalism. But once, the Hindu Mahasabha passed a resolution that Congress should not give up its ‘nationalist’ stand by holding talks with Muslim League but should ask Hindu Mahasabha to do that job! What does it mean? It only means that the hybrid nationalism of Congress was of the pure variety, whereas Hindu Mahasabha represented the Hindu counterpart of the rabidly communal, anti-national Muslim League! How did this strange perversion set in? Because, the deep-rooted conviction which would spontaneously evoke the ready affirmation “yes, this is Hindu Nation” under all conditions, even in dreams, was not there.
Things that Count
So, we say that we have to imbibe deep and positive samskars of our nationhood which shall not allow us to be swept off our feet by political or other considerations. It is no use to speak of Hindu Nationhood and the eminence of Hindu way of life without a corresponding life-pattern in our practical day-to-day behavior.
For instance, Veer Savarkarji wrote a beautiful book ‘Hindutva’ and Hindu Mahasabha based itself on that pure philosophy of Hindu Nationalism. But once, the Hindu Mahasabha passed a resolution that Congress should not give up its ‘nationalist’ stand by holding talks with Muslim League but should ask Hindu Mahasabha to do that job! What does it mean? It only means that the hybrid nationalism of Congress was of the pure variety, whereas Hindu Mahasabha represented the Hindu counterpart of the rabidly communal, anti-national Muslim League! How did this strange perversion set in? Because, the deep-rooted conviction which would spontaneously evoke the ready affirmation “yes, this is Hindu Nation” under all conditions, even in dreams, was not there.
Dont say sorry I should have been a little more kind to you I will edit certain parts of the earlier comment.
Agreed with all of it but there were mistakes made(may be sometimes for personal ego or whatever) and thats why you have a Papisthan and it can not become part of Bharat as long as its filled with Pappis coz you know what it will lead to.Live examples are places like Kerala,Bengal,Assam and North east.I am just saying that we should not blindly believe anything or anyone and also look at the relevance in todays context.I have taken my time and read it all up but look at the mistakes that are being made when you accept the exclusive truth claiming Mazhabs and religions in equality with DHARMA you end up swallowing a Poison just like what Gandhi did.As far as RM is concerned he is free thinker but does a lot of Gandhi worshipping and for some reason avoids Savarkar(politically incorrect).I use his works to understand many aspects of Dharma and Geopolitics as his work gives me arsenal to fight back but even when I use his works the result is that of a Savarkarite.
True…. And I also agree that the BJP is incompetent and try to act ‘secular’ once in a while ……. Whatever your opinions may be .. now is not the time to fight among ourselves .. Now is the time for Hindus to Unite… First we must achieve total political control over the country and finally destroy the Jihadi-Secular nexus…… India needs to go, Bharat needs to come back ( I guess you know the difference between India and Bharat or Hindustan)… After all that is done we may argue and fight whether to follow Golwarkar or Savarkar….. But not now… The time calls for Unity…
Papisthan!! we are creative!! :))
While I don’t doubt work of RSS but at the same time I feel RSS lacks the intellectual kshatriyas that is indeed required to fight in the Kurukshetra to defend the Dharma. RSS needs to touch the intellectual masses despite the fact Media has been brainwashing the people against RSS.