Who is a Hindu?
The origin of the human race (as distinct from our evolution as the human species) is an engaging metaphysical mystery for many of us, but not for Abrahamists whose dogma unravels it authoritatively for them.
The Holy Bible asserts that Jehovah created man in his own image.The woman was created from man. In whose image is woman created is not stated, but she is not in Jehovah’s image.
The Holy Koran has Allah fashioning man too, but not in his own image. The woman was created from man, and of course she is not in Allah’s image.
Either way, the Abrahamisms are clear that it is the male human who is god’s direct creation. The Abrahamisms do not recognize or acknowledge female divinity. The female human is a subordinate creation, from man, the gender implications of which are another story.Since the same Abrahamisms in their defining texts quite explicitly exclude from their god’s grace those of us who are not Abrahamists, how then were we created?
Hindu Dharmic texts discuss various possibilities, including Rig Veda 10.129 which honestly admits we do not know. We can speculate – the human is stated to have buddhi and so can think (dhiyo you nah prachodyat, Rig Veda 3.62.10) but this is a most unsatisfactory worldly situation for Abrahamists, because it suggests we humans can decide our own destiny, rather than their Jehovah / Allah do so for us.
Since the Abrahamic gods are by self-definition all-knowing and all-powerful, it follows that the very existence of non-Abrahamists diminishes to that extent the fearsomely jealous omnipotence of the Abrahamic gods, and by derivation that of their faithful on earth.
So, who created us nonbelievers? Who are we? When our own texts and our own interpreters are uncertain, and when we are now educated to seek and prefer certainty, we need those with certitude to educate us. And who can be more certain in educating us than Abrahamists, especially White Abrahamists? And, of them, who is more qualified and capable than the eminent internationally-acclaimed American Indologist, Prof Wendy Doniger O’Flaherty?
Prof Doniger O’Flaherty with great erudition has been educating us Hindus for many years about the reality of our beliefs. In “The Origins of Evil in Hindu Mythology” she educates us about our creation. She tells us that
“……evil spirits (Guhyakas) arise from Krsna’s private part (guhya), his penis or anus, and injury, misfortune, death, and hell derive from the rectum of the creator.3 Other forms of anal creation may be seen in the widespread Hindu belief that Brahma eats rice and then emits us, as well as in the statement that Brahma created the demons (Asuras) in the form of a breath (asu) from his rectum.4 Thus man is a cosmic turd, and though the theological implications are not entirely clear, demons would appear to be of less consequence, or at least less substance – no more than a celestial fart.”
i. Brahmavaivarta 1.5.60-61; Bhagavata 2.6.8
ii. Linga 1.70.199.
Therefore, who is a Hindu? And Doniger O’Flaherty enlightens us –
Hindus believe they are cosmic turds.
Ipso facto, a Hindu is a cosmic turd.
So, fellow Hindus, now you know!
We Hindus are turds.
We are worse than demons, who are merely farts. Hindus are solid shit, demons are just smelly air. And to repeat we have this on the impressive authority of the Mircea Eliade Distinguished Service Professor in History of Religions at the University of Chicago, Prof Wendy Doniger O’Flaherty.
That established, now what would you who are about 55 per cent of the world’s divinely-fashioned population do with the 13 per cent or so who are peristaltically-expelled turds?
What would you do with a real turd?
That’s easy, and you don’t need a Doniger O’Flaherty to tell you that you must flush it away.
But how would you do this with what this distinguished Abrahamist identifies as living turds, namely, Hindus?
Read for yourself what the defining texts of the 55 per cent have to say for us of the 13 per cent.
Hate. Kill. Proselytisation. Jihad. They strive 24/7 to flush us away.
But that violence is only the most apparent form of their purging the earth of us.Very much part of the pattern for eliminating us are subtle forms of indoctrination. The dominating one today is Macaulayanism,which teaches us to loath ourselves, and this is where cunning White Abrahamists like Doniger O’Flaherty come in as teachers.
Shrewdly, she implies to us Hindus that we need not look into a mirror to recognize ourselves. We need only to look into a latrine.
Because we are turds.
Are you surprised that the Bible and the Koran refer to us in terms of disgust and opprobrium?
Therefore, we deserve to be flushed away.
Doniger O’Flaherty’s very dramatic print equivalent of a sound bite is no un-scholarly witticism. It is a deliberate political statement to calumniate Hindus and Hinduism, entirely in consonance with Abrahamic scripture, and she makes it early enough in her book so that it is captured and retained by the reader. It is deliberate because she knows it is false.
She cites the Linga Purana in claim of “widespread Hindu belief” because the etymology there she can use to suit her case – but how many Hindus are familiar with the Linga Purana?She rejects the Ramayana, which is really widely believed in,because the etymology there does not suit her case. Why is she conflating popularity of belief with accuracy of etymology? The former is not dependent on the latter. And she knows this because, 200 closely-printed pages later in the same book, she casually tones down the sweeping generalization to an occasional one and that, 20 pages still later, she drops altogether.
It is political because she explicitly and most approvingly connects it to the appeasement politics of Gandhian ahimsa.
“Gandhi’s nonviolence enabled him to see `how much of what we ascribe to the Devil’s wiles or to the id’s inexorable demands can be tolerated, if absorbed by love rather than negated by violent moralism.’ This final acceptance is the great achievement of Gandhi, an achievement of personal as well as political significance…the hateful person continues his hate and learns to `love the opponent as human’”.
The lesson behind that confusing psychoanalytical jargon is simple – whether we Hindus are hateful or the Bible and Koran are full of hate for us, it is we who must learn to love those who are violently moral against us. Hindus must love missionaries and jihadis even though it is their avowed objective to destroy us.
Such love – Hindus giving ourselves up to Abrahamists –is the Gandhian way and so,rather than the reciprocity that both the Bible and the Koran advocate through their lextalionis, a craven surrender is the desirable way for us Hindus in dealing with the ordinances of the Bible and the Koran against us.
Abrahamists mince no words in telling us off scatalogically and worse. They are 55 per cent of the world’s population, and growing. Nowhere in their lands do they give us any right greater than their own, and often it is a lesser right. And we, who are 13 per cent, suicidally privilege them as a minority over ourselves in our own land.
For the faithful of the Bible and the Koran, the Gandhian bleat of ishwar allah tero naam is blasphemy,punishable with excommunication or death. Both the Bible and the Koran definitively, categorically and emphatically reject as applying to themselves the Gandhian idiocy of sarva dharma samabhava that Hindus parrot, even as Abrahamists exploit it to the full in Hindustan.
As a Hindu, ask yourself a simple question. If Abrahamists respect Hinduism as “equal”, why do they need to convert us?
Notes
1.Genesis 1.27 http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611_Genesis-1-27/ ;
2.Genesis 2.7 http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-2-7/;
3. Genesis 2.22 http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611_Genesis-2-22/ ;
4. Koran 23.12-14 http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/pick/023.htm;
5. Koran 39.6 http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/pick/039.htm;
6. Koran 42.11http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/pick/042.htm ;
7. Koran 112.4 http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/pick/112.htm.
8. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/turd.
9. Of course, it is irrelevant that, for “widespread Hindu belief”, from the over onethousand texts claimed to have been sourced, she can cherry-pick just one reference, and the meaning (a-sura) given by the Ramayana she rejects as “a false etymology” – Wendy Doniger O’Flaherty, “The Origins of Evil in Hindu Mythology”, (Delhi: MotilalBanarsidass, 1976:140, 60-61). It is just as irrelevant that, for “asura”, Monier-Williams says nothing of turdness –http://www.ibiblio.org/sripedia/ebooks/mw/0100/mw__0154.html – col.1
10. .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations
11.http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid=55 ;
12. http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=55.
13. “just as the universe is sometimes visualized as the excrement of God” – p.341; “the individual is merely a particle of cosmic power, a manifestation of an entity (neither good nor bad) that behaves in accordance with the consequences of other cosmic entities” – p.363, italics added.
14. p.359, italics added.
15. http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=213&Itemid=55;
16. http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=277&Itemid=55;
17. Hindu behaviour before Whites is expected to be of humility, of abject and grateful servility – http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=300&Itemid=55.
18.http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=4288and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YCY8voabkg are typical.
19. See the first two of Jehovah’s Ten Commandments – http://www.godstenlaws.com/ten-commandments/#.VSnuj9x85gs – and like commandments in the Koran – 4.116 http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/pick/004.htm , .106 http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/pick/006.htm , 112 http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/pick/112.htm.
20. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarva_Dharma_Sama_Bhava and the opening paras of http://indiafacts.co.in/god-constitution-india/.






I don’t know if Dr. MS is a Christian with an insidious agenda etc. but I have to agree with her. I just finished reading Dr. Kak’s co-authored book on NGOs and the Anti-nation Industry (Vigil Public Opinion Forum). It was hard-hitting, brilliant and well researched.
I wanted to follow him on twitter (someone please give me his handle if he is on twitter) and then lead on to this link.
Now the format that he uses in this article and for that matter Shri Rajiv Malhotra and to some extent Shri Arun Shourie, make it very difficult to follow.
To my simple mind, If it is a critique (of Wendy as an Example), I rather the title say “Why Wendy is Wrong” and disprove key assertions or challenge the poor scholarship. The title starts of with “Who is a Hindu” and then has confusing extracts from Wendy’s trash. The rejoinders however are left half-said, unsaid or worse sarcastic. This does not make it easy to follow at all.
I am really impressed with Dr. Kak’s painstaking research and scholarship and don’t intend to be a random critic. People like him are doing enormous good and are our flag-bearers. So respectfully, I just wish he would make it easier for people like me to follow such articles.
I remember reading about interpretations (link) based on each of the 7 kunDalini chakras. The mUlAdhAra (link) is situated at the anus. It is responsible for the excretory functions. Bhagwan GaNesha is the Lord of this chakra. In the kirtana vAtApi ganapathim bhajeham, shree Multhuswamy Deekshithar says kalusha vidUram bhUthAkAram. In other words, in charge of cleaning and purifying. The mUlAdhAra is the earth element.
It is the same with svAdhistAna, in charge of sexual desire. Lord Bhrigu presides over it, and it is the water element. The maNipura is the seat of will, fire is its element and Brahmarshi vashishTha is the presiding deity. The anAhata is the heart chakra, seat of love (and hate). Its element is air, the rshi is angeerasa. The vishuddhi is at the throat, its element is sound. The ajna chakra is the seat of thought and consciousness. Finally the sahasrAra is the gateway to liberation. They all reside in the sushumna nAdi, physically along the spinal chord.
An interpreter chooses what she wants from the chakra that dominates her being. She can infect a reader with the same attitude of shame, contempt and disgust, thus lowering his level of understanding. To resist it, the reader should know from where these interpretations emerge. If interpreted from a higher chakra,the interpretation tends to be finer and nobler.
The pancha prANa theory also talks about apAna-vAyu, residing in the intestines, the source of both purity and impurity. It flows below the maNipura chakra.
By representing Brahman as a Cosmic Human Being, Hinduism draws a parallel between the microcosm and the macrocosm (link). This Purusha of course has the same body structure as a normal human being. It includes a left feminine side and a right masculine side (iDa and pingaLa). There is nothing wrong in seeing the lower parts of the Cosmic Being having excretory functions. There is nothing to be ashamed of, if some creatures are the refuse of some bigger creatures. For example, there are 400 types of bacteria in our intestines, weighing about 1.5 kilograms. They live there, its their habitat. Their job is to aid excretory functions, digest the healthy part and excrete the refuse ! Why should the same be not true of the Cosmic Being ?
Freudian psychology, theory of mind (Id, Ego, Super-ego), probably comes from the mulAdhAra interpretation. It obsesses about the negative, lower tendencies of the mind. By using that framework, many Donigers have maligned Hindu thought before the current incarnation 😉 It is by using higher frameworks, (hermeneutics ), that one can jump over these lower-level interpretations. This is a legacy of Protestant Victorian puritanism that the McPutras have been programmed with.
Let us not be demoralized by the words like fart, turd etc. These words emerge from writers according to their level. Let us replace them with higher level interpretations. It helps us stay mentally healthy.
Thanks for this information. I agree with your analysis and thought the same of Freud who might have been working from a certain chakra and then Jung, who might have risen to a level or two but not really the seventh or eighth chakra. thanks,
You are welcome. Jung was definitely much more refined than Freud. I think he wrote a preface for the English version of ‘The Tibetan Book of The Dead’. His theory of archetypes, myths, and collective unconscious suggest an ajna chakra temperament. However his roots in western culture prevented him from “becoming Indian’. Robert Svoboda has something on that in his ‘Aghora – The Left hand of God’
Who is Hindu
http://www.voiceofdharma.org/books/wiah/
The greatest tragedy of modern intellect is(metaphorically speaking): Wendy Doniger has more popularity than Rajiv Malhotra. And, Freud is more popular that Ramana Maharishi.
One wonders why, even though she was, in her initial days, quite positive about Indian Archaeology,Indian Astronomy etc., suddenly in her later days became such an “irresponsible” scholar, like many!
Thank You
I am not sure if you need to add the word “like many”. There are some excellent scholars…just not in Hinduism or Hindu studies around the world. We need much more. Mind you many good scholars think of Wendy as a windy wingnut these days. That is sad….I do not mind good critiques or even scathing critiques…I just despise trivialities, selectivity and extremely obviously filtered interpretations. I do not know if she is a wingnut…but she has become a windy Wendy…far from a scholar.
At least to my knowledge…
Overwhelmingly many scholars(may be except few dedicated Scientists/Thinkers in the recent decades–however the names, like anything “good” in this world, are very few) who have spoken “great” about India/Hinduism, finally have condemned Indian Civilization.
My case is not just to give few examples, but we Indians need to understand that we are too good to believe anyone who speaks (whatever their intentions may be) positive about India is not without any “hidden” ideologies: as history(read TRUE history) speaks to us.
Thank You
Thank you Charan, kindly read my comment below.
Just to give an example,there are many such examples–again, to my knowledge–
We have to read what Wendy and the likes have written about Asvamedha Yagna. It is even embarrassing to write about their interpretations–it is much more than perversion–the immoral business of Psychoanalysis, which in its current understanding is proved to be unscientific!!
She is not the only one in this scheme–or rather,scam–“big names” are involved here…which is too controversial for many people to speak.{Dr.Subhash Kak has written an excellent book about this—“Asvamedha: The Rite and its Logic”}
But the true scholarship(which we definitely lack, as you noted) reduces all “such” ideas, and exposes as what it is: stupidity.
Note:Just completed reading “Invading the Sacred”–as an emotional Hindu student, I almost cried, after seeing the kind of distortions( in human mind–not in truth!)…..
Thank You
Beautiful…stop this business of suspecting others…please..and I agree that there are genuine scholars too, rejecting of which does not do any good to Hinduism
I am a Hindu, and I am “comfortable” with it.And in my experience as a student, of all the books/article/theories/lectures about Religion/Spirituality/Philosophy clearly lack one thing:WISDOM.And that is the reason of me to generalize; not to merely suspect others.
(I believe have said “At least to my knowledge” for a reason…)
I am not interested in arguing about this any more, Ma`am, but suffice to say that “I am ready to change my opinions,but not at the expense of truth.”
Thank You
Frankly I disliked this article, and this effusive compliment to a windy Wendy who spends an inordinate amount of time on “Evil”, and Kak pushes that one. I am never sure if articles on IndiaFacts, like this one, are trying to help persecuted HIndus and misunderstood Hinduism, or if characters like Dr. Windy get more attention than they deserve. I know Wendy, and I always wondered what happened to Wendy that she spends so much time on all the prone-to-crude-trivialities in Hindu texts that few read. And it appals me that she gets so much attention in the US from serious religious scholars. One non-Indian atheist said to me, “Wendy’s critique of Hinduism borders on some deep seated hatred of Hindus…more so than a good understanding of Hinduism”. Wendy is a nice person,,,but my goodness she is a terrible scholar. Most real scholars would tell you so. One must wonder why her writings get so much attention in the US and England. Is she being set up by her boys in her neck of the woods? I don’t know…but windy Wendy needs a some lover so she is not spending inordinate amount of time focused on Krishan’s penis and his anus. Wendy get yourself a nice HIndu boy for a lover….and get over it.
I was married to a non-Hindu and never got converted. Even after my amicable divorce I remain good friends with my Anglo ex. and do not hate him or hate any religions he came from. So…why does Wendy appear like a jilted lover who has not gotten over her HIndu Krishna who married someone else?
I hope
I do not want to comment on her house or her personal tastes. Diversity and all spiritual traditions allows for eccentricities, quirks and her preferences in interior decor. I find many men, who may be from Abrahamic religions, focus on irrelevant aspect of a woman’s personal life: like her dating, her clothing, her parenting, her hair do or her male friends (many of whom are gay), and make harsh judgments about her without really personally knowing her…as if Mother Teresa would be a better scholar because she is a celibate nun, or tried to be.
I am not interested in Wendy’s personal art collection. I have absolutely no problem with her art choice. Many men collect nudes (as art) and I do not consider that offensive, so why would I focus on her house full of male nudes? That is her wish.
Focus on her scholarship…
It is like idiots who say they are not voting for Hillary because they do not like her sunglasses…which to them is too large and old fashioned, or those who are voting for Hillary because of her being a “cheated wife”. These are not reasons you vote for any person…including a female candidate.
Focus on what is necessary and important…
Her scholarship is not very rigorous or reliable…Full stop.
Dr MS, stop troiling. It is getting rather tiresome and boring. WD has thrashed Hindus and Hinduism and this article has taken her apart. It is all sarcasm and the humor and is exposing Wendy for what she really is. A intellectually dishonest person going in garb of of a scholar.
In what way has this article taken her apart? I found the article actually difficult to follow up until half way. I thought it was a compliment to her.
This is what the author said in the first few paragraphs:
“And, of them, who is more qualified and capable than the eminent internationally-acclaimed American Indologist, Prof Wendy Doniger O’Flaherty. Prof Doniger O’Flaherty with great erudition has been educating us Hindus for many years about the reality of our beliefs. In “The Origins of Evil in Hindu Mythology” she educates us about our creation…”
Followed by a very smiling O’Flaherty.
How is this an intelligent critique? It actually gives a lot of attention to her and her book (which most people should not be reading). The author is indirectly giving her money and importance.
You don’t see that.
How does me pointing this out make me “a Christian Fundamentalist”. Something is seriously wrong with the commentators on this page. Either they are fundamentalists pretending to be not., and projecting their stuff on others.
Quite ingenious…
QUOTE It is like the talk I went to few days ago on critique of Western Market economics…where many of the trolls were directly from foreign corporations. I observed both sides, the communists on the podium and the capitalist in the side, and thought, “They are fighting European 18th century ideological civil war and China’s 19th century battle right here in Chennai…while they all claim to be Indians”. Even economic theories in India are imported.UNQUOTE
India does have many creative indigenous economic theories, but under the current political-ideological framework, there is no encouragement of those.
But, agree with you that, probably we are giving more space to scholars like Wendy Doniger, than what she deserve; there by misinterpreting our own traditions/culture.We should focus on the original scholarly interpretations instead.
Thank You
Dr MS.
Thank you for your comments here. I feel you are a writer too waiting for the right forum or a right editor to ask you! Why don’t you write for IndiaFacts? You can probably be better or worse than some of the writers here but at least we can be educate ourselves a bit more by your powerful observations. I hope you will agree with me and consent to an article in a future day on the topic of your choice.
Are you being serious? Or, is this another one of those “sarcasms” I am unable to disentangle? If not lets talk. You need to get me through a separate email.
I am being serious. Let me know your email through a private message and I will elaborate further.
Only people who appreciates subtle sarcasm or tongue in cheek humor and wit can appreciate this article. Sorry Dr MS. You are not the one..
Most of the article is tongue in cheek.
I’ve been seeing your comments here. You seem to be a Christians fundamentalist who is here to spew hate on infidel heathen in a hope that it’ll guarantee a place for you in eternal heaven after your death. When someone logically points out your absurdities you cry victim and accuse the opponent of being a Hindu male chauvinist and an uneducated fool.
I have gone through the notorious and later pulped book .Wendy seems to have a strange preoccupation, may be obsession with maligning the non Abrahamic-noble religion and has become a part of the band wagon of pseudo scholars in tarnishing the literally Sanatan dharma.There is a lot in Christianity that should provide a lot of research material to this worshipper of Jehovah.The symbolic Cannibalism of feeding a convert with Christ’s flesh and blood, for example, and stopping with a piece of bread and wine- mind you – not pure water- because red wine compares better with Christ’s blood. Is this a kind of Occult act and how do people become like Christ by eating his flesh and drinking his blood but devoid of his spirit?One more topic can be the incest in the old testament.Yet one more will be the cruel Jehovah pushing Adam down to the earth and cursing his progeny to be born with his sin- Is there anything godly in the supposed act ?YET ANOTHER CAN BE MARY’S VIRGINITY AND MALE SUPREMACY -WAS MARY AND ADULTERESS OR A VICTIM OF RAPE? WHY WAS JOSEPH RELUCTANT TO ACCEPT JESHU AS HIS CHILD? AND MANY MORE