The Mathematics of the Jihadis
‘It is difficult to gauge the intensity of the vengefulness of a fool who has been insulted,’ reads a line in the Kannada novelist Yashwanta Chittala’s Purushottama. Needless to say, it alerts us to the perils of hurting a fool’s ego. However, visualize the dangers of a situation where an entire political system is built in a way that uses the selfsame ego of a fool as a source of strength and power. Indeed, we don’t need to actually visualize it: we have it before us in the form of Communism and Jihadism.
That today, Islamic fundamentalism is spreading worldwide like a cancer is a given. However, the world’s Big Brother, which has invested heavily in its universities, think tanks, and institutes, and has set up chairs and sponsored scholars to study the problem, continues to refuse to publicly state the roots of Islamic fundamentalism and the solutions to eradicate it. This inaction (spinelessnesss?) is the latest example of how narrow political expediencies and calculations are threatening peace across the world.
Before we examine how a fundamentally empty, regressive and inhuman ideology grew so rapidly, we can briefly turn to history for parallels by studying an example of a similar fundamentalism which is now history. Such a study is not only rewarding but proves to be a good guide.
If any ideology, movement, or argument needs to reach a sizeable mass of people (no matter how base their character is) quickly, it needs to first satisfy their ego.
We’ve seen how quickly Communism spread throughout the world. If you tell indolent people that in their laziness lies their greatness, you’re guaranteed to receive a significant mass following. Indeed, Communism spread in this fashion. Communism rapidly gained worldwide following because it pitted society against itself—by needlessly provoking peaceful people, by vociferously dismissing hard work, merit, and intellect, and by pitching the indolent against the rest of the society, all in the name of equality. Instead of fighting for equality rooted in responsibility, Communism demanded equality rooted in rights. This was how it was able to amass a vast army of servants who were adept at KCKH—Kaamkochakkar, Khaanakohaazir(Always ready to bunk work, always ready for free lunch).
However, the day people realized that Communism filled only their heads but not their stomachs, it died as a political ideology—this death was also hastened by the widespread and tremendous impact and acceptance of US-style capitalism. However, it took more than a century for the death of communism to occur.
However, by then, Communism had left its deep imprints in the psyches of people—it had successfully altered the very way of their thinking. It had played with their primal impulses. Therefore, although it had been defeated politically, it has remained firmly etched in all our minds in one or the other form even today. The root cause of this is the ease with which the basic impulses and instincts of humans succumb to temptation.
The tremendous success and popularity of platforms like WhatsApp and Facebook owes not to any fundamental or path-breaking research or accomplishment but to a very simple cause: they provide an easy, (literally) handheld stage for people of no distinction to enact the triumph of their egos.
It is not inaccurate to say that this is but a culture-devoid facet of humans. And it is fundamentalist Islam which has used this culture-devoid facet, taken it to the basest level, and has used it with aplomb since its inception. The reason Islam is today growing at such a phenomenal pace and churning out fundamentalists and Jihadis in greater numbers owes to the fact that it is systematically feeding the basest of brute instincts in human beings.
When you feed and nurture the brute instinct for killing and provide unlimited opportunities for satisfying sexual lust, it is very easy to gratify an individual’s ego. And fundamentalist Islam has recognized this fact at a level, and has been consistently pandering it to its adherents. This is why fundamentalist Muslim leaders constantly create newer enemies, maintain hatred against these enemies and ensure that the Faithful never forget the taste of war. Thus, the Faithful are in a constant state of preparedness to attack non-Muslims. However, once there are no more non-Muslims left to attack, the cleavages within the Muslims themselves (Shia, Sunni, Ahmadiyya, Alawite, Ansari, etc) escalate and internecine violence erupts. Because? War must be constant. The beast inside the human must constantly gnash its teeth.
This is nothing but the continuation of the Communist concept of never-ending class warfare. Moreover, free and unlimited access to sex is another big draw for the fundamentalists and potential fundamentalists. First, it’s legally sanctioned for Muslims to have four wives. It is equally easy to divorce and marry another lady. This process can be repeated any number of times. These legally-sanctioned temptations are numerous: treating women as objects made purely for a man’s enjoyment, sanction for wife-beating (Quran: 4:34), taking women as booty in raids against non-Muslims… Because human desire can never be quenched, there’s the additional offer of procuring 72 virgins for those Muslims who die in Jihad. It thus stands to reason that sanctifying this sort ofbehaviour as religion is the work of an extraordinarily perverted psychiatrist.
It is impossible to satisfy the monetary greed of any person because greed by nature has no limit. However, sexual lust is limited by one’s physical abilities in the sense that it can be satiated temporarily.If a person is shown the way to satisfy this lust in an unfettered manner—with no social or other restraints—then it becomes dead easy to tame even the most brutal of people. And fundamentalist Islam has shown how well it has understood this elementary fact. Indeed, as ISIS, Boko Haram and others continue to show us, as long as there’s free and unlimited availability of women and opportunities to kill men, this cancer will continue to spread unhindered.
Indeed, this phenomenon has a long history from the 7th Century raids against the Khuraish and Nadir tribes to Arab incursions in Persia, Byzantine to attacks against Europe, North Africa, and Jihad against Bharata, which continued during the mass massacre of Hindus in Bengal during the Partition, and the low-level Jihad occurring even today in Kashmir, Kerala, Assam and West Bengal.
Generally, a demonic mind tends to do precisely that which is prohibited and punishable in a normal, healthy and functioning society. Given an opportunity, freed from such restraints, this kind of mind will run riot. It is this path that fundamentalist Islam has eased for such minds.
There’s a common misconception among analysts of Islam. This proceeds on the lines that the illiterate Faithful are shown the temptation of 72 virgins, and the poor are lured with money to become Jihadis. Of course, there’s only a grain of truth in this. However, because fundamentalist Islamic leaders have shown that there are ample opportunities to obtain these enjoyments right here on earth are youth (the poor, the wealthy, the educated, and the illiterate) becoming Jihadis in droves.
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From this it is pretty clear that religious fundamentalism is merely a foundation for Jihad. What is constantly feeding it is the real attraction and opportunities to satisfy one’s basest instincts without fear or fetters.
There’s another deadly aspect to this.When this sort of perversion is presented as Allah’s work, practice of pure Islam, the sadistic pleasure one derives by cruelly torturing and killing Islam’s enemies and enjoying their women and children, and perchance the Jihadi dies, the 72 virgins waiting for him…when this sort of package deal is offered, it becomes clear how and why it has become so easy to attract thousands of youths to enlist in Jihad in this rational, scientific and modern age.
Thus, if one is serious about tackling the problem of Jihad, one needs to tackle the incredible cruelty, and violent sexual crimes that are its most visible manifestations. Muslim women need to first be liberated from Islam, and prescribe stringent punishments to the perpetrators of such inhuman crimes. Additionally, those verses in the Islamic scripture which sanctify and sanction this sort of behaviour need to be erased.
Fresh proof for the claims above.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/09/isis-slave-markets-sell-girls-for-as-little-as-a-pack-of-cigarettes-un-envoy-says?CMP=twt_gu
Some important news, for us to understand–
http://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/islamic-state-use-of-people-as-sex-slaves-made-me-return-areeb-to-nia/ar-BBk20xp
Brilliant
Why was India invaded in the first place, though?
Basically barbarism is religiously sanctioned. So the illiterate faithfuls follow it.
Also note that the disgruntled people follow Islam and Communism. People who feel they have been wronged by society.
Those who hoodwink lay people that they have been wronged are the ones that propagate communism. Those who get hoodwinked thus, will follow it. The feeling of “being wronged” doesn’t come without a concerted campaign. The whole of 19th century was invested for creating that feeling, by state power, using sold out rogues like Rammohan Roy, Veeresalingam, then much later justice party.
I agree. Only, the rabbit hole runs much deeper.
How can we understand this—
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3vkdLIn3wQ
Just came to know about the very large Jewish involvement in Islamic militant groups, and also the “controversial” history of Early Islam(which seems to have Hindu influence), through Captain Ajit Vadakayil blogs–why is it that there is no research or discussion about this?
there is no jewish involvement in isis if you believe this nonsense then you are a dhimmi. dont give in to dhimmitude.
Advisory: use critical thinking when you read his blog and may be use google search for yourself instead of blindly believing him,
that merchant navy capt guy is a dhimmi where he connect his dots into a Zionist jews Rothschild conspiracy.
I read somewhere on his blog where he blames the Jews somehow for ! S ! S and even Armenian genocide?
he is very much pro old congress nehruvian sickular and thinks Sardar Patel was a yes man without knowing that single man united India and killed many muslims during Hyderabad integration by using force but nehru couldn’t get one state and was busy appeasing muslims.
some of his baseless bs claims because they are not from Kerala:
1. he made Chitpavan Brahmins into Jews
2. Tulsidas into Jew stooge.
3. Tagore was drug smuggling muslim.
4. Pandurang Vital as chitpawan Jews fake creation yet he doesn’t know about Krishnadeva Raya connection to that temple.
5. Radha into jews creation but he doesn’t know her actual history actually dates back much back 15-18th century and was a natural evolution of Sanatana Dharma.
6. blame the Jews for Armenian genocide?
7. ! S ! S as Israel creation?
if it is not Kerala then everything is Jews Rothschild conspiracy.
he wants to white wash muslim invader 17 times destruction crimes like the commies did in cbse books.
then he yaps about 5.5 million Jews is true and 6 million is fake who gives a flying fuc k about it.
he attacks every thing that is not from Kerala and then flies off the handle and blames Jews out of nowhere for every ill in the world and talks 6 strand DNA BS.
then he made Syrian Christians who also serve in Indian army into Syrian Jews.
yet he sent his son to Rothschild Cornell university which exposed his nonsense but he blames his wife for that and some followers of his defend this Jewish conspiracy non sense.
most of the Jewish conspiracy info comes from white supremacist anti-Semites American websites who hate Jews.
So I have stopped following him because he even moderates his comments before they are published.
You forgot about Savarkar this idiotic Moron KAPTAIN has the audacity to mock the Father of Hindutva
Beautiful !! Now, the sun shall start raising in the west–with a cool attitude !!
BTW, it is not ‘6 strands’–it is actually, ’12 strands’; and by BS if you mean “Bold Speak”, then you are true.
Advisory:Please use your perceptive thinking; not to club anything under that ugly umbrella of “conspiracy”.And also remember,today, every truth is a conspiracy. (Read this twice)
Many other things that you spoke of are not worth discussing(even though ,you did raise few genuine points.)–all those are proving to be true, today—if not tomorrow.Again, there is no need to blindly believe anyone (Rajiv Malhotra or Ajit Vadakayil)–but to understand the truth in it.But one thing is sure–he is a responsible blogger, unlike many !!
Your criticism of my comment is well received, but not the criticism of Captain !!
Thank You
Immensly impressed by your neutral and sane views on Captain.
I wish to connect with more people like you as reading Captain’s blog is a tedious, intimidating and often confusing task.
Following you.
Sir this Captain Ajit Vadakayil has all kinds of weird conspiracy theories which there is no evidence he has some distorted perverted sense of Nationalism which is a creation of his own brain after years of working in Chemical Tankers finally he has gone cuckoo.
If you would have mentioned Rajiv Malhotra’s Being different and about Judeo Christianity I would agree but please dont read or advice anyone to read that idiot CAPTAIN AJIT VADKAYIL he is an MORON.
Friend,
1) I came to know about Ajit Vadakayil, indirectly through Rajiv Malhotra.And I have huge respect for both of them, for genuine reasons.
2) Captain speaks in an altogether different plain; and to my knowledge and capabilities, most if not all of his conclusions, seemed true logically. I do not like to defend, neither condemn, anyone; simply because, my knowledge is limited–and, I found Captain`s answers the most natural too.(Read this twice)
Firstly, before going further, confirming one thing: that you are open minded, by reading your earlier comments.
Let me start this by quoting a relevant passage, from a review, by a person named L.Ron Gardner dated June 10,2014, that I found in Amazon, for Rajiv Malhotra`s Indra`s Net:
QUOTE
While I found this text an interesting and educational read, I felt
that it didn’t identify the “disease” that is causing the “symptom” of
neo-Hinduism. Although the text properly identifies the agenda and
limitations of the modern Western Weltanschauung; it fails to get to the
root of the problem: Progression, left-wing neo-Marxist fascism, an
ideology coincident with America being hijacked and effectively
privatized by a private, central Banking Cartel in 1913. This private
Banking Cartel named itself The Federal Reserve, but it is not Federal
at all, and neither is its collection agency, the Internal Revenue
Service. In the twentieth century, Progressivism took over the American
educational system, and 94% of all university professors now identify
themselves as Progressives, or left-wing liberals. In short, it is this
cancerous Progressivism, being peddled around the world as “Integral
Globalism” by the likes of Ken Wilber, which is overtly and covertly
waging war on Hinduism and any ideology anathema to its hegemony. UNQUOTE
Tell me: What can you understand by this?
Secondly, type the word “Rothschild” anywhere in the net, and observe that there will be no red line underneath it.If you type the names of any other Business Tycoons of any other nation, there will suddenly be a red line there.You can verify this, now-a-days, in the internet too: in almost all the departments of American Universities, you can find a person from “that” family.What does this indicate?
Thirdly, if you have read all the books of Rajiv Malhotra, then one thing is for sure: Captain Ajit has written about all that—yes, all of that, elaborately, much before anyone of the so-called “scholar-intellectual” has dared to thought about it–instead, we find that they are jumping up and down in their imaginary towers.
Today, many of those things that Captain writes are coming from “conspiracy–plane” to “reality–plane”; this can be easily observed in foreign nations, where he claims to have a huge readership.
I appreciate your response I am open to most opinions thanks for the detailed response the problem I have with Captain Ajit Vadakayil that how do we seperate the truth from exaggerated Myth.I am not saying he might be completely of the mark but everything and everyone I mean when u start saying that the Chitpawan Brahmins with coloured eyes and Fair skin are Jewish Rothschild I was offended.I am not a Maharashtrian nor a Brahmin but when a person makes these claims how does he back it up with facts and proof that also we must see.And one of the biggest things that made me angry was criticizing Savarkar see if Veer Savarkar was a British stooge and Rothschild then why did Nehru want him convicted by hook or crook in the Gandhi assasination and look at what a miserable life the so called Rothschild had.See some of the things that Capt Ajit said is what Nehruvians would love things like Race of Chitpawan Brahmins different from other Non Brahmins then Communism is aginst ISLAM show me how.Look at Bengal and Kerala it does not matter what Soviet Union had done or todays Russia or China is doing is doing but look at Communists behaviour in India naa are they pro Muslim or not they are (Refer Growth and Genesis of Nehruism Sita Ram Goel).As far as Rajiv Malhotra is concerned he was into this thing for a long time but he has avoided making claims without backing them facts.If you could provide me the link where Rajiv Malhotra refers to Captain Ajit Vadakayil I would appreciate.
Another thing is Captain keeps saying that even Vivekananda did not understand Vedanta after Adi Shankaracharya according to Captain noone understood Vedanta so basically if we were to accept Captains words then again you are basically building a Platform/Foundation Pillar/Launch pad for Sheldon Pollock and Anant Rambachan’s Neo Hinduism.I know Vedanta is difficult to understand but to say others never have nor will they ever understand isn’t it like claiming that Church has the right to your Path to Salvation and what happened once some 2000 years or 1400 years back can’t happen again so isn’t it going against the concept of “Aham Brahmasmi”(Loosely translated We all are DIVINE)
See accepting Captain Vadakayil completely will work as a Poison Pill for us hence I am not sure about accepting his work completely.Just like accepting P.N.Oaks work completely will work in the same manner.Eventhough P.N.Oak was very different from Captain but yes we can look at DIGESTION as in P.N.Oak or even some of Captain’s work can be accepted as things ABRAHAMICS might have digested but accepting them completely would mean that if Hindus believe in Smriti and Shruti and according to P.N.Oak and Captain Christianity is just Krishnanity then whats wrong in accepting Jesus and Converting.Christianity is just one of the newer path to Moksha thats exactly what these Missionaries will say and our poor gullible naive Van Vaasis and others will convert.Similarly if Kabba is Shiva Mandir so basically it means that Muslims are worshipping Shiva so why dont Hindus think of Islam as another Panth and accept or even convert.See how it works as Poison pill for us only.I am so open to suggestion that I even tried reading “Chariots of God”(Aliens are our Gods/Ancient Aliens) but reading does not mean accepting.And yes Captain Ajit Vadakayil even mentions that Belgian Indologist Koenraad Elst is a Rothschild this is the same Koenraad Elst who has written and done enough work in the field of Indology and True History be it unveiling the truth of Islam or Christianity or Marxists.I dont say to trust anyone blindly but common the mans work speaks for itself, he even has a special not of appreciation in Breaking India.I can go on with Captain Vadakayil’s weird theories his claim that Peshwas were Jewish Rothshchild again that last big victory of Hindus which we should be proud of which resulted in the demolition of Islamic rule.Isn’t this what the Marxists want all of his theories become a form of “POISON PILL” which in turn will kill our cause.You might already know but please look up DIGESTION INCULTURATION U-TURN THEORY etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuT-XQ54y9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjhoC4rprm0
http://koenraadelst.blogspot.in/2010/06/incurable-hindu-fondness-for-pn-oak.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8ge22b8Y8w
{ Before going further, go through this–and also the references mentioned here, these are just examples, and there is a whole gamut that needs to be (re-)discovered:
http://www.sanskritimagazine.com/history/vedic-past-pre-islamic-arabia-influence/
http://www.ece.lsu.edu/kak/Akhenaten.pdf }
Firstly, I am hugely benefiting from this dialogue; thanks, for your response.
1) Regarding Chitpavan Brahmins-Jews, and many related issues–I accept I have limited knowledge about it.One thing that we(I) have to admit is: many of the conclusions of Captain Ajit Vadakayil (here after referred as AV) are, indeed the most logical; irrespective of our ideologies.Also, many of your criticisms of AV is genuine, but only “for some distance”.
2)Yes, it seems to be true, Vivekananda did NOT understand Sanatana Dharma–I felt this, even before I came to know about AV.We cannot blame Vivekananda for this–he has just flown with the times; and yes, he is a great thinker, but this should be taken for granted, since he spoke many idiotic things too.
3)It can be a poison pill; but only for some time.History should be regarded as for what it is; not what we would like it to be.And all that you have written in last paragraph is true, according to my understanding.But we need to be careful, in articulating and interpreting it.It will be “digestion”, only when we are speaking this truth in convoluted terms.
4)It is increasingly becoming clearer that all the Western Religions have there origins in Vedic Philosophies–not because of any ideological reasons, but for the empirical observations that support this.But in the course of time, they have “misused” is; don`t you think that this historical truth needs to be told?
5)Just consider this:
Fact: We have more empirical evidences, to consider Lord Rama as a historical figure, than what we have for Asoka, or even Kalidasa.This remains a harsh fact.Now, is there anyone, to understand this phenomenon ?
I have felt that, one thing is for sure: out of the many orators that we have, no one has recorded the true history of this nation. I honestly feel that, all the terms “scholars,historians and intellectuals” are strictly outdated; however, I am genuine enough to sacrifice my believes for truth.
They first link I had already seen the rest I will view later on thanks for the links and also for this Aadaan Pradaan of Gyan.I don’t know if you have read Indra’s Net I advice you to read it cause when u talk of Vivekananda your repeating some how exactly what Nehruvians want which is untrue.See as far as Vedanta is concerned its not something even the best of minds understood but to say Vivekananda did not and said something completely different is giving in to the Neo Hinduism cclaim.If you have not read Indra’s Net which I feel you haven’t then you must if possible also read Being Different. See in case of Vivekananda he just took Vedanta further but used English especially John Milton’s language Rajiv Malhotraji discussed this in Great details in Indra’s Net.See Neo Hinduism is a danger and such claims that Vivekananda’s views are completely different from Adi Shankara is exactly the claim of the advocates of Neo Hinduism again by saying he was completely different or didn’t understand Vedanta is wrong Rajiv Malhotraji has mentioned that Vivekananda just packaged the old thing and indeed its a continuation.Hence please refrain from saying Vivekananda a scholar but didn’t understand it and formed something completely new.
Now Chitpawan Brahmins first AVs making all those claims which the Nehruvians Love Different Race and all.
Thus also the credit of Peshwas defeating Muslims taken away.Similarly Tilak Savarkar and many others were Chitpawan Brahmins again when you call Chitpawan Brahmins Jews it means Hindutva which is Veer Savrkar coined and formed is basically a Jewish creation again you have another thing happening Hindutva is formed by a Non Hindu.Hence the Ram Janma Bhoomi movement and everything else again is basically a Rothschild creation.
Another lie AV keeps saying is that Nathuram Godse was never an RSS man as this is what AVs Daddy who was an RSS man told him.Big lie Nathuram Godse was an RSS man but later on he joined the Hindu Mahasabha and Gandhi assassination was a Lone Man’s job nobody told him to do so. Its the agony of seeing our Hinduradhtra being divided and Gandhi making bowing down to every one of Jinnahs demand made Nathuram do.You can read it in Nathutams own statement Who May I Please Your Honour.
I think you should read up on Ambedkar before commenting Arvinda
1) I have read Indra`s Net, Invading the Sacred and Being Different completely; even though, I have to start Breaking India. (Anyway, thanks for those inks)
2) I understand Neo-Hinduism`s thesis–thanks or mentioning it–and it`s danger to Hinduism. I take back my words on Swami Vivekananda; but, I still insist that he misused his intellectual rigor–he could have “hit in the teeth” of the Britishers, with his cerebral capacities(sorry, for this foul language; but I think we Indians need to be more harsher towards our enemies).And also remember–with great power, comes great responsibilities( quote–thanks, to Spider-man !!); and it is here that I feel that geniuses like J. Krishnamurthy, Swami Vivekananda and Sri Aurobindo have not addressed Indian Civilizational consciousness properly.
3) Diverting from this discussion slightly, but will connect to the topic later; just consider this fact–
“Out of the very large quantity of Sanskrit manuscripts that we have on Science, only 6%–yes, 6%–of them are opened, forget about researching and publishing them.Then, with what confidence and honesty are people–laymen, public intellectuals, media and scientists too–are speaking about it? Why do we have such kind of intellectual vacuum?
This is all because of a false understanding of history; the root cause of which is, the “belief” that a)history , as a investigative discipline, is subjective(which it is NOT)
b) that it follows a single historical linear trajectory and
c)that we need a “theory” to explain history–if history is a collection of facts, events, incidents, then why do we need a theory to explain it (for scratching their heads, may be !!)?
These fundamental assumptions–like in many other fields -need to be dismantled completely; for any honest understanding of our history, which in turn judges/decides the confidence of our culture.
4) Regarding Pushpaka Vimana(and many such “histories”),all I can say is, I am convinced,through my little understanding and research, that it is true and reality(and NOT “myth”.)–and pretty sure that they will soon be validated scientifically.
5)And, I believe, many of the “puranic”(as apposed to “itihasa”–under which both Ramayana and Mahabharata comes–, which is nothing but history) stories that we have, are speaking about “something evocative”–to explain a deeper phenomenon, allegorically and poetically.So, an “experiential” understandign is required. to unerstand it honestly; instead of “outer appearences”, which, as the proverb says, may be deceptive !!
Thank You
This is quite a discussion we are having and I think we both are benefiting a great deal from it.Sorry for my misunderstanding with regards to your reading of Being Different,Indra’s Net &Invading the Sacred.
I understand what you mean by “hit in the teeth” and I certainly dont mind the language thats why I keep mentioning VEER SAVARKAR.I respect all the individuals be it Swami Vivekananda,Sri Aurobindo,Anand Coomarswamy, recent years RM but if you ask me who is my ARADHYA DEV I will say is Veer Savarkar simple reason is he called a SPADE a SPADE rather than sugarcoating it.Many great Hindu thinkers including RM often try to follow a sugarcoated path I know RM’s quite blunt but still somehow when we are dealing with such hostile aggressive forces we need to be even more aggressive.
For instance I read in Being Different about Sapeksha Dharma where RM mentions that Muslims will be allowed to follow Sharia within Muslim Jati without the killing of the Kafir and all those things.I was some how not convinced the reason is Muslim Population in India is growing faster than that of Hindus if we allow them to practice Sharia within their Jati then Uniform Civil Code can not be applied to them so doesn’t the concept of Sapeksha Dharma become a Poison Pill for ourself.Sharia is according to the Quran in Being Different RM mentions about Bible being the Smriti-Laden the same thing can be applied to the Quran.To think the Sharia Laws would change according to Kaal Khanda is like asking the cunning fox to leave its cunning way of Life and live the life or docile deer.
Yes in the long run we want Peace but if we allow these different forms of deadly Virus be it the Judeo-Christianity,Islam,Communism or any kind of Liberalism to exist along with us we are bound to catch the virus eventually and die.Hence its very important that some strong steps should be taken.
Yes there is a lot to be researched and unfortunately all of the so called “INTELLECTUALS” think of immating only the west which is utter stupidity and yields no real benefit to the Dharmic Society in general.
Your right about many things I accept most things you say I also believe that Hindus/Dharmics somehow need to be a little more aggressive which is what is stopping us being able to curb these Foreign Forces.Newton’s Law “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction” seems to be proven wrong in case of the Colonized Hindu which sometimes really irritates me.And your right on the money when you say these Hindu thinkers should have been even more aggressive.
I saw a video of Swaminathan Gurumurthy on Youtube and there he mentioned about three Yudhas
1)Dharma Yudha -Manusmriti rules are followed (Chivalry at its best)
2)Lobh Yudha- During the time of Alekshandra
3)Barbar/Krur Yudha-The attack of the Muslims where they followed no rules
He mentioned some King or Rishi’s name in the 7th Century who came to know of Chanakya’s Arthshashtra and thought of Chanakya to be Adharmi and hence ordered his books to be burned.
One such book was saved by the Vijaynagar Empire which was later discovered by the British in the 19th Century.Now what I am trying to suggest is that most Hindu Thinkers,Philosophers,Intellectuals name everyone and say that they were inspired by this Hindu Guru or thinker but one man is always ostracized his name is Veer Savarkar.The only reason I see is all because of Gandhi Assasination blot left on him due to some Lone Man’s Deed and eventhough Savarkar was acquited by the Court.Nehruvians continued the falsification of facts and somehow Hindu Gurus/Scholars too afraid to touch the Untouchable Brahmin & Father of Hindutva have continued this pratha of Asparshata.Also this is very dangerous because people be it todays so called Dharmic Brigade under the likes of RM or the BJP which uses the word Hindutva during election often forget or at times and compromise too much on issues which should not be compromised on and I sometimes think its their lack of looking through the Prism of Savarkarji’s views.They are willing to look at Bharat from every thinkers view but not from the Nationalist Perspective of Savarkar and hence often fall short biggest example PDP-BJP Alliance in Kashmir or even RM dismissing Hindutva as History Centric.
Thanks again sorry for the long response
Thank, for your long and though provoking reply.I have not read about Savarkar`s views; but will think about it.
My concluding comments are:
Rajiv Malhotra`s contributions are huge–they are the best contributions for Indian Civilization, to come after the Independence.But, they can only be carry forwarded by equally passionate researchers(which we seriously lack).
I had seen this video earlier and now again I saw it with specifically looking from the point you mentioned.Well I know what your trying to refer to and Yes everyone does not have answers to all questions so RM also doesn’t and he does not like answering without backing with evidence it could be anything from he did not know the answer to not wanting to talk about something all the probabilities exist I think you gotta give him the benefit of the doubt.Yes back to your question as to who owned it I think it was sold from this European Nation to that eventually falling into the hands of the British but yes lot of the history is distorted but difficult to say Myth from Truth.Again with due respect AV’s speculation I could have agreed to but for his weird sense of distorted Nationalism.See there are many aspects where he might be Right but I dunno,if you have heard the story of a Shepherd boy who always cried wolf/fox/tiger and villagers would come running to his rescue and he would laugh at them saying that he fooled them now this boy kept doing it many times and fooled the villagers one final day the shepherd boy actually came across a wolf/fox/tiger and he kept shouting but noone came to his rescue thinking that he was again trying to fool them.This story is applicable to AV I am sorry to say this but even if AV would be Right on some issues may be even major ones but all cause of his previous shenanigans how can you trust him.I dont know if you know but he was arrested.You can not make random claims and think always you can get away with it without backing them with evidence.You told me that your reading Breaking India now if the Institutions/People RM named and shamed would just be accusations without evidence those guys would have sued RM left right and centre and especially after the book being among the Top 10 Best Sellers in 2011.My Friend and Guru(Not Adhyatmik) told me about these things long time back and he is the one who inspired me to read up on Savarkar and Voice of India and he also told me not to trust anyone blindly so the politics behind the scene I have been studying it for quiet sometime so even when I first came across RM I was circumspect and cautious and as always I would not just read his work but the references he mentioned in his bibliography to see if he was telling the truth or just random claims.Again this does not mean that since we dont have enough evidence today means such things did not exist in the past or could not be repeated in the future its just that unless we can Scientifically prove things people dont want to accept them.Yes so the enemy behind the bush here is very dangerous as we can’t get a clear picture of who or what he is,RM has unveiled a lot of these guys but with evidence that can be proved in the Court of Law.There are speculations that the so called Nazca Lines is one of the places from where Ravana would use to fly his Pushpak Vimana.As a kid I would always think that Ramayana and Mahabharata were WWI & WWII so my Guru told me that I was not completely wrong as these all wars happened thousands of years back and today because of looking at everything from the Gregorian Calender’s view we dont want to give importance to our own Itihasa & Puranas.He mentioned that in the Ramayana the war was so huge that it’s quantum people dont understand today it was Shri Rama from Ayodha along with Vanar Sena and parts of Bharat and the rest I mean from Srilanka to all parts of the world were against Shri Rama so just imagine how big Ravanas Army was its said that after losing the war many of Ravana’s Generals migrated to places like America and some became these pygmies.Now if I say this without backing with evidence people will call me crazy.Hence we have to back what ever we say with evidence ie if we are talking of History but for Shruti & Smriti there is no need for all this scientific evidence.Now someone told AV about the good work RM is doing and he should also write about it on his blog so AV got furious any guesses why?coz AV is a Narcissist.I know every scholar wants his work to be acknowledged but look at the Eminent Intellectuals they say ICHR Chairperson’s ineligible because he’s not published in any of the renowned magazines with peer review (Basically you scratch my back I scratch yours).Now y cant Hindu intellectuals if I dare to call AV one do that?
You had mentioned earlier about Samrat Ashoka he has been eulogized especially by the Nehruvians /Communists its not like he did not exist its just that you try to pit one against the other hence you have this GREAT Buddhist Emperor Ashoka and he will be pitted against every other great Hindu Emperor.Its not like Ashoka didn’t exist like probably AV’s saying but Ashoka was not as Great as some potray him to be.Like Nehru was a nobody but look at the status he achieved on the contrary look at the ones who spend their lives in KalaPaani or had more potential than Nehru.If you know Neo Hinduism Sheldon Pollock is trying to prove Rama was created as a reason to fight Muslims all kinds of stuff then you might see Rama being pit against the Noble Buddhist Emperor.
Even Kalidasa did exist there is enough evidence suggesting so.We do have KAMA which is why we all are here so the culture of the Bharat prior to Muslims/Christians coming was indeed very liberal but not like potrayed in Mugal Kamasutra a lot of what these Muslims did was clearly signs of a Mleccha.See its all about perspectives when you look at pictures of Ajanta and Ellora or other Dharmic places you will see bare breasted women My question is do we look at our mother,sister and daughter the way we look towards our wife,fiance,beloved answer is No.See our perspective was beautiful at times even feminine we dont regard women inferior or as an object of pleasure like the Abrahamics do.It was the Muslims who changed our perspectives be it the pratha of Ghoonghat or ladies not allowed to move after dark etc etc and after them came another one of their Mleccha brothers the Europeans you should read Veena Talwar Oldenburg’s Dowry Murders it will tell you how this society was forced to become a Patriarchal Society.
you are spot on about your observations about the liberal Indian view before islam. I would like to talk more on this subject but on a more private channel like google+.
I have read this comment of yours, six times !!
All I wish to conclude is –“Absence of Evidence is not evidence for absence.”(Read this twice)
And, I think you agree with me on this, India has traditionally recorded her history in a beautiful factual (albeit,in a philosophical) manner–which is truly unparalleled.
Just remembered, I visited an old temple in Karnataka recently, which artistically showcases a famous scene Ramayana—Rama breaking Shivadhanassu, even though it is a small(and often, unnoticed) sculpture, what better way would be, to write history ?Even, when all the history books are burnt, even then it would be preserved, right?
(A question– you do accept that, there was Vimana during Ancient times in India, right?
Thank You.Bye.
can you make your profile public(change back afterwards) since I want to follow you ? also tell if you want me to make my profile public.
Mu profile is already made public…
Do you read mediacrooks? If not then start reading, Ravinar exposes the unholy nexus of trio commies-christians-muslims under the congress.
even NS Rajaram Shares the same view on buddhism.Here is the link if you want to follow him through his disqus profile.
https://disqus.com/by/NSRajaram/
read this a hundred times: sun neither rises nor sets
but you should know that it is the muslim scholars whoclaim the sun will rise in the west.
Do you really think the people responsible for Armenian genocide and isis are jews? even the reason he gives for kerala(kerala didn’t exist then) not celebrating Diwali is wrong even when Tamil Nadu celebrates and blames Vishnu somehow and tells he killed MahaBali when actually he sent him underground and made him Cheeranjeevi.
He then tells Rama back-stabbed Vali but according to Valmiki, his arrow peirced his chest. he is pushing wrong narratives and spreading shit and fooling Indians by telling the culture of kerala is right while that of the rest of India is false. he even made the Saint tradition of Maharashtra into falsehood jew conspiracy.
In communist Kerala, the hindus are now second class citizens in their own state suffering at the hands of Christians and muslims. capt is a product of that and became a self hating hindu.
search mallapuram mini pak. see the communist hindus along with christians and muslims defending that part disguising themselves and claiming it is false.
he even attacked Belgian Koenraad Elst calling him Jew when that man has dedicated his life defending Sanathan Dharma.
he claims the kalaripayatu is the original and oldest form of Martial art but the Tamil martial art, Varma Kalai is actually the oldest and which also forms the background for kalari. without Varma kalai, kalari is useless.
Weird thing is buddy I agree with you but somehow you think I am supporting Captain or Gandhian principles of Complete NonViolence.
Man, for this reply of yours, see the arrow in front of my name is directed towards Shree not towards you.
Agreed, to some extent.I have already mentioned that I am not a follower of him; but a genuine admirer.I think I have to repeat my words again, that:
“Your criticism of my comment is well received, but not the criticism of Captain !! ”
Repeating again, I shall not accept any criticism of Captain hereafter.However, as I have said “more critics, than followers”, it is true; so I encourage you to criticize my comments, but not that of Captain !!
Thank You
there is no uncomfortable truths and definitely no one is disturbed. I criticize him after reading his blogs on freedom fighters and his comments on quran because he is pushing the dhimmi centric false narratives of his dhimmi state and defends the holy book of muslims and writes that the muslims worship Advait form of Indian god which is also wrong.
the Indian concept of God is exhaustive and so he uses some similarities within this exhaustive explanation to match some narratives with fit the description of abrahamic god.
you remind me of the followers of James Warren “Jim” Jones who blindly made his followers drink kool-aid. why should I criticize you when it is the capt who is spreading non sense.
why cant you accept criticism of him and insist on defending his non-sense? are you his father? See I dont want to get personal here but understand he may even start calling the incumbent government as jew stooge after some days while he defends nehru and indira. Then his followers collude the opinions of uniformed citizens on various comment sections who may end up voting for traitor party congress in the future.
also he writes his stuff copying from various websites :
the timeline of yug is copied
gmo seeds
and some more
if you don’t believe me just reverse google search the contents of his blog and find the source.
but all this linking to jew conspiracy is absolutely non sense. Do you
really think the Rothschild are some super beings with billion strand DNA controlling the world continuously since 500 years.
Man can also makes Errors through perception which he can avoid by critical and rational thinking.
You are taking the argument further, with no clear intellect.I definitely accept your criticism of my comment–and, if you are eligible for that, your criticism of Captain too.But, in my own research and understanding, using “critical thinking”, as you would like to put,I never found any feather of untruth being uttered by Captain.If you have any genuine critique of Captain, let it be; but remember, only genuine–finally, truth takes the last basket.
Ending this argument here,from my side.
Thank You
I also subscribe to the same theory that Vanaras were a different races of humans evolving alongside the descendants of Manu. The descendants of Manu are only Suryavanshi and Chandravanshi whose descendants then bred with other races of humans.
also please stop putting forward the other cheek philosophy, It is totally bullshit and a hollow philosophy formed against Dharma.
Every Indian God carries a weapon and even Brahma has the Brahmasthra to uphold Dharma.
jesus philosophy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_the_other_cheek which is based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mount.
your example with relation to Satya yug is wrong.
In the Satya yuga the Man knows what is right so he would never slap in the first place for no reason or wrong reason.
non violence is you should forgive if some one commits a mistake and ask forgiveness. it means the man should use his intelligence to think for himself and should recognize the nature of the guilty person, whether he is capable of accepting and admitting his mistake in the first place and reforming after that.
non violence does not mean that you should sit there while genocide take place in front of your eyes.
don’t get blinded by the good and evil nonsense propagated by abrahamic religions. Indian concept of God is beyond good and evil, for upholding Dharma, man must wield a weapon, retaliate and defend himself for after him the lives of millions of family depend on that particular person who choose to uphold Dharma. It is the same reason, Vishnu enters the world to kill the criminals and destroy that philosophy which makes man weak and colludes his mind which stops him from differentiating good from bad and bad from good.
Now lets see the other cheek application in real life: a poacher(man) kills a rhino(another man). now use other cheek , the family of the slain should allow the poacher(man) to kill other rhino(another from his family). this is retarded stuff. words don’t break bones and rape families but physical assault and wars do.
this other cheek philosophy inspired tolstoy(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kingdom_of_God_Is_Within_You) and with the aim to prove this nonsense, gandhi wanted to apply on much greater scale. gandhi, a man with messiah/god complex where he suggested the Indians and Jews should gets slaughtered at the hands of islam and not retaliate in any way.
gandhi on hindus dying at the hands of muslims.
I would tell the Hindus to face death cheerfully if the Muslims are out to kill them.
I would be a real sinner if after being stabbed I wished in my last
moment that my son should seek revenge. I must die without rancour. … You may turn round and ask whether all Hindus and all Sikhs should die. Yes, I would say. Such martyrdom will not be in vain.”
gandhi criticized refugees fleeing the Pakistani jihad, and told them to go back and die:
“I am grieved to learn that people are running away from the West
Punjab and I am told that Lahore is being evacuated by the non-Muslims. I
must say that this is what it should not be. If you think Lahore is
dead or is dying, do not run away from it, but die with what you think
is the dying Lahore.”
Brother,
You didn’t understand or have not properly read my comments.I am saying exactly what your saying and the slap on one cheek to other I referred to is what Savarkar tried to criticize Gandhian perspective from.That these rules and its so called application can’t be applied with respect to this Yuga and especially against violent behaviour of the Abrahamics.Yes in the Satyuga people won’t commit such deeds that is what I meant.Please read my comments carefully and understand them and then you would not have to accuse me last of all human beings to advocate that utter stupidity of a philosophy of complete NonViolence as compared to relative Non Violence.Gandhi kept saying “Ahimsa Parmo Dharma” but did not say the next line “Dharma Himsa Tathiv Vachay” -Which means Ahimsa is supreme but for the protection of Dharma even Himsa is considered Ahimsa.
I know you might not feel like reading everything so please see Pg 18 of Gandhian Confusion by Savarkar also pg 54 in the link below and you will understand my views.Please read properly & then comment.
http://www.savarkarsmarak.com/activityimages/The%20Gandhian%20Confusion.pdf
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/hvhb/ch21.htm
https://arunshourie.wordpress.com/category/veer-savarkar/
Extracts from the above article of Arun Shourie
From the very same Gita from which Gandhiji derived non-violence and satyagraha, Lokmanya Tilak constructed the case for ferocious response, not excluding violence. From the very same Gita from which Gandhiji derived his ‘true law’, shatham pratyapi satyam, ‘Truth even to the wicked’, the Lokmanya derived his famous maxim, shatham prati shaathyam, ‘Wickedness to the wicked.’
Lokmanya invokes Sri Samartha, ‘Meet boldness with boldness; impertinence by impertinence must be met; villainy by villainy must be met.’ Large-heartedness towards those who are grasping? Forgiveness towards those who are cruel? ‘Even Prahlada, that highest of devotees of the Blessed Lord,’ the Lokmanya recalls, has said, ‘Therefore, my friend, wise men have everywhere mentioned exceptions to the principle of forgiveness.’
Tilak says, ‘has made it clear that this rule should not be followed in a society, where there do not exist persons who follow the other religious principle, namely, others should not cause harm to us, which is the corollary from this first principle.’ The counsel of ‘equability’ of the Gita, he says, is bound up with two individuals; that is, it implies reciprocity. ‘Therefore, just as the principle of non-violence is not violated by killing an evil-doer, so also the principle of self-identification [of seeing the same, Eternal Self in all] or of non-enmity, which is observed by saints, is in no way affected by giving condign punishment to evil-doers.’
‘But if the evilness of the evil-doers is not circumvented by such saintly actions, or, if the counsel of peacefulness and propriety is not acceptable to such evil-doers, then according to the principle kantakenaiva kantakam (that is, “take out a thorn by a thorn”), it becomes necessary to take out by a needle, that is by an iron thorn, if not by an ordinary thorn, that thorn which will not come out with poultices, because under any circumstances, punishing evil-doers in the interests of general welfare, as was done by the Blessed Lord, is the first duty of saints from the point of view of Ethics.’
To understand my perspective please view from 2:07 of the video mentioned below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpS2bF3KwmU
This is what I believe in which is known as Kanika Neeti
http://indiafacts.co.in/modern-bharatas-failure-to-recognize-kanika-neeti/
I replied only because you connected other cheek philosophy to Satya Yug which is wrong. I just directed you towards the original propagator of this nonsense is Jesus who in turn inspired Tolstoy and in turn Gandhi. Just click on the links and you will see where this cheek non sense starts.
Brother I agree and thats is what I was trying to tell infact because Gandhi would use this Christian beliefs and superimpose on us Hindus that is why Savarkarji refused to meet him in Ratnagiri.I keep mentioning the name Savarkar which itself should be self explainatory of what my views are.Savarkar was mocking Gandhi in the Gandhian Confusion and trying to suggest that first of all he does not believe in complete Non Violence secondly how can all of this be applicable to this time with the British and the Muslims.Gandhi often superimposed Christian and Islamic beliefs on Hindus even when the Hindus protested but when he would read the Gita to Muslims and they refused to listen to it he would stop immediately.If you read my previous comments I mention Nathuram Godse’s “May it please Your Honour” where you can read in details about the Gandhian hypocrisy.
Even the word Budparisth comes from demolition of Buddhas Murtis by Muhammad Bin Kasim where the Buddhist adhered to complete Non Violence and did not lift a finger which eventually led to the fall of Afganisthan and parts of Pakistan.Savarkar called them as Avaidik Hindus while he called the others who follow the Chatur Varna system and believe in the authority of the Vedas as Vaidik Hindus in his writings you can read its very evident that Historical evidence suggested that such kind of Complete Non Violence let to our loses even Will Durrant story of Civilization mentions the same thing that Savarkar did.
Also as far as Ashoka is concerned the boundaries of Non Violence this nation adhered to is the sole cause for its downfall.Samrat Ashoka would pour tonnes of Grains in the sea so that fishes dont kill each other instead they feed on these foodgrains.I keep suggesting people to read Savarkarian Literature in which he has criticized in great details these “PERVERTED VIRTUES”.Infact he has pointed out that Untouchability grew stronger whereever Buddhists where ruling as they would force it on the people who lived on slaughtering of animals.Infact the Mahars were treated very poorly and forced to live outside in the Lepors Colony.As far as Jains are concerned they banned all kinds of Violence against animals/living creatures and provided subsidy to these hunters,butchers,honey gatherers,fishermen for three years.There is also a story that someone killed a head lice and the other person saw it now this happened under the watch of the Jains so this other person informed the whole village and the man was made to pay heavily and there was a Smarak in the name of Lice created.Now this kind of complete Non Violence causes more Himsa.Had the Buddhists of Aghanisthan not been so docile and sided with the Mlecchas and betrayed the Vaidik Hindu King so many lives would not have been lost till date.
But today things have changed there is no point of fighting within the Dharmics,Buddhist be it in Myanmar or Tibet or other parts of Asia have understood the main problem is Abrahamic Religions so we must capitalize on this and unite under the Dharmic Umbrella rather than pin pointing each others Philosophical flaws.
You did see what the Burmese did to these Mlecchas so I think we also must use our soft power over Asia to unite under the Dharmic Umbrella because when we compare Abrahamics we never had the notion of Race in Asia prior to these Mlecchas bringing their Mleccha Mazhab/Religion and their Hamitic Myth.
You might be Right to certain degrees about WW3 that this whole notion of Temple of David to be built in place of Al-Aqsa will lead to a bloody war but I just hope some how China would stop its expanionist behaviour within Asia which in turn too could lead to a lot of prosperity and peace in Asia no point discussing about Pakistan they are not going to change.
If you read Arun Bhattacharjee’s Greater India you will realise how Hindu Colonies formed all across Asia without one army going there and why Chinese Culture did not make more impact as compared to Hindu.
this is google
can you explain about the soft power you mentioned here?
I also subscribe to the theory that Vanars were different races of human
evolving alongside the descendants of Manu who are Suryavanshis and
Chandravanshis. Then the descendants of these vansh went on to breed
with other races of humans.
the british are responsible for saving muslims from total annihilation
at the hands of Marathas. today the muslims exist in South Asia only
because of British thereby signifying the role of british in bringing the world closer to next WW.
also ww3 will happen only with objective to destroy arabia. Presently they are staying aloof and funding terrorism worldwide. usa intentionally neglected them even after 14-15 of the 9/11 hijackers were saudi nationals.
When we talk about Soft Power we Dharmics have always had many beliefs which are common and as I told you the problem is Abrahamic Religions which are attacking us.Infact Dalai Lama had mentioned that Religious Conversion should be banned for the next 25 Years the facts is Buddhists in South East Asia realise that the mistakes made by them be it in Afganisthan,Pakistan,Bangladesh all these were Buddhist territories this concept of giving up everything is what led to their downfall.If you look at Vietnam Roman Catholicism is completely banned you can see on wikidpedia the reason is as usual allegiance to foreign land made them ally with the Foreigners.Phillipines very importantly was also a country where our culture flourished but you look at its poor condition now.Hinduism/Sanatan Dharma is not Hegemonic it is after all our Mother SANSKRITI hence she never imposed herself on the local beliefs,language,traditions,folklores were always combined with SANSKRIT without any Hegemony these all things we have to rekindle and what Modi is doing today should have been done long time back.Our Soft Power is Sanskrit and our Sanskriti that we share with Mongolia,Vietnam,Thailand,Bali,Myanmar,Malaysia etc the similarities our so much that is why West is always Afraid of India Rising.
If we become powerful nation we can have universtities giving scholarship and our Nation can again be the hub of Knowledge now this knowledge can be learnt by these people of Asia.There is not one way of doing this there are many things which we can do.
I suggest two books if you read you will understand one is Greater India by Arun Bhattacharjee and another is English Medium Myth by Sankrant Sanu.These two books will tell you how our culture language philosophy forms of governance etc were easily accepted and at times staunchly followed by the people of Asia on the contrary China spread through Military might hence it had less impact because it would have a Hegemony on different parts whereever its Military went,Governors were there and taxes were send to Mainland China where as this never happened with India we did not look down upon our Asian brothers.You can even say Buddhism worked more like sufism for Islam in our case of spreading all across Asia.We have to own up to our Ancient Wisdom and belief and then only we can impact on these nations which is happening after so many decades.
Be it all parts of Asia you will hear about Mahabharat and Ramayana infact in places like Vietnam and Cambodia you have these beautiful Temples all of this happened because of the Hindus.First thing is India lost all of this due to Islamic invasions and hence stopped being in touch with their colonies fearing more attacks from the Muslim Mlecchas.This was soon after the first attack of Muhammad Bin Kasim.This also let to the downfall or sudden non attachment to their Holy/Sacred Land for most South East Asian Nations.Infact this whole ISMS Buddhism and Jainism and Sikhism and Hinduism was purposefully created in 1871 to seperate all the Dharmic paths by the British.Yes I understand your anger which I believe is true but I give you a choice Islam/Christianity or Buddhism and Jainism you will choose the Avaidik Hindu paths because the beauty about our Dharmic traditions are that we can change ie we dont have SMRITI-LADEN like Christianity or Islam hence Buddhist,Jains have adopted and changed and we have to try and make them understand our real enemy is children of ABRAHIM-Islam,Christianity,Capitalism,Socialism,Western Universalism etc.
And I hope to see the beautiful sight of Mecca and Madina being destroyed on television that would be a pleasure but that does not mean the war for the Dharmics would have ended.
w8 2 mins I ll edit reload and check back.
I relate the word soft power by connecting it to another word ‘push over’
Yeah reality is Modi does not like Gandhi no real patriot can adhere to that kind of stupidity that Gandhi was talking about.The top 20 Nations with Richest GNP except US,UK,Australia and Canada are all Non English speaking Nations.Out of Top 1000 Companies 792 Companies in Asia belong to Japanese,Korean and Chinese all of them are Non English speaking.There is a massive De-Colonization drive that has to be done and its not just 60 years of Nehruvian Socialism but Over 1200 years of Colonization.Modi’s seriously got his task cut out.
1200 or 800? considering porki is not part of India.
I get the gist of what you were trying to say about supporting buddhism/Jains against abrahamic religions. I actually do support them as being a separate branch of Hinduism but one should also be cautious of the bullshit of these two religions. these are borderline nihilistic philosophies which destroy societies. Also the word Hindutva/Hinduism derived from the word Hindu which was given to us by the persians and accepted after being subjected to shimmitude under mughals.
I support the ban on cow slaughter but original Indians(2000 years back) were meat eaters(horse,bull,buffaloes,goats) who later mellowed under jains and buddhism.
You had asked me earlier if I am Maharashtrian no I am not but I know very Marathi very well.As far as Hindu is concerned it comes from the words Sindhu which is loosely translated to Sindhu River.But in Sanskrit Sindhu means a Huge Water Body.What it means is that Bharat is surrounded by huge water bodies on all three sides hence the word Sindhu.Also just like you say Saptaah it becomes Haptaah similarly Yamuna becomes Jamuna and Yadav becomes jadhav.So this whole notion that Hindu comes only from Persian yes instead of Sindhu they said Hindu.Again the Sindhu dynasty goes further back than the word Bharat (which is you might not like this on the name of a Jain Chakravartin Emperor) was present even during Mahabharata if you know Jayadrath was of Sindhu Dynasty.So I dont have a problem with word Hindu/Sindhu/Dharma especially sometimes the word Hindu or Hindurashtra can insight a feeling which somehow most other words fail to do so.Just imagine the Muslims they attacked us and called everyone be it any Dharmic as a Hindu today if we unite under the same HINDU against these Mlecchas so whats wrong.But yes I am willing to sacrifice the word Hindu since I know todays Colonized Indians won’t understand these things so easily and again the rift between the Dharmics continue which is of no use.I say 1200 years because we can not deny Afganisthan,Pakistan,Bangladesh all of these were part of Akhanda Bharat Varsha and unless we bring them back by freeing them from their Mleccha Mazhab we are neither safe nor is humanity in general.We owe it to our forefathers who fought because of which you and me are still Hindus but what about our sisters and brothers who are continuously harassed by these Mlecchas in what was our own Akhanda Bharat.I dont know where your from but brother its good your reading Voice of Dharma but please do read Savarkar because whether someone likes it or not the man’s views hold true even today.
I do know about India is named Bharat after Rishabh’s son.
http://www.savarkar.org/content/pdfs/en/essentials_of_hindutva.v001.pdf
The above will tell you the meaning of Hindu where it came from and why so on and so forth.But as I mentioned earlier they targeted everyone be it Buddhists,Jains,Vaidiks and called them Hindu.You must go back to Pre-Islamic Persia and you will realise that their religion had our Devtas as their Asurs and our Asurs as their Devtas I believe that is one of the reasons for them using the word Hindu in the derogatory term that they used.I dont mind the word because there is a saying “Ek desh ki boli dusre desh ki gaali” so it does not matter what they say if you go to see our believes in itself makes us KAFIR for them so how does it matter what we call ourselves as long as we are not Muslims we are Kafirs for them.The other thing that you mentioned was Buddhism and problems because of it are well documented in Savarkars Six Glorious Epochs and also the article of Koenraad Elst below.
http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/ayodhya/pushyamitra.html
Be it any of the Dharmas that were born in Bharat all are from Vaidik Dharma hence whether these people like it or not their ancestors were all Vaidiks.The only reason we have all kinds of beautiful creation is all because of the Vedas which influenced most of the people later on.Our Pluralism and ability to respect others by accepting their believes as equal and true comes from the Vedas.Think about the number of names we call our Bharat Mata-Ved Bhumi,Dev Bhumi,Aryavarta,Pitru Bhumi,Punya Bhumi,Hindu rashtra,Dharma Rashtra we can go on.According to Science human beings are 200000 years old now we have “HISTORY” only of 5-10 Thousand years so what about the rest of 190 thousand years.Hence over this long period of time we always had different names of our Matru Bhumi and our Dharma too might have been called by different names at different times but that does not mean it did not exist prior to 1400 years or 2000 years or any number of years this is just Abrahamics way of putting you off track by comparing their History Centric belief to ours.Their Religion/Mazhab is stupid with their idiotic Hamitic Myth which they superimpose on anyone and everyone no wonder because of them Racial Discrimination continued and was passed on to others whom they colonized.
I do follow Koenraad Elst and I even defended him against the accusations made by capt in one of reply to Shree.
I have saved your links so delete all your replies to me except the ones related to capt. I m going Batman
edit out your last line “and I hope to see…” because you may receive undue comments from muslims in future
Sigmund Freud said “Civilization is built on denial of instinct. The instinct to kill, eat, and f%^k everything.”
I think only the Dharmic/Sanatan societies are built on denial of instinct. The Abrahmic societies are built either on amplification of instinct (Islam) or the sophistication/masking of it (Christianity).
This article is one of the most accurate ones that analyzes the issues of Islam. Great work Shreesha Karanth – where can I follow you, so that I could be updated about your further works and thoughts?
Rather than denial, which is a negative term, I would say Dharma is built on a deep social commitment to the betterment of every individual human, which is the only way human society can thrive. That is, it supports individuals in their quest to be the best they can be.
Islam, core Christianity, and especially communism/ Marxism are ideologies that appeal to base instincts in us. It looks to me like we are in a species war, more than anything.
The pre frontal cortex is what differentiates humans from lower primates. It is responsible for direction of attention, telling the good from the bad, social restraint, and other behaviors that provide distinct advantages for humans as a species. There seem to be a growing number of ‘people ‘ who don’t have this biological advantage.
Apparently, those of us who are still human have been so distracted by the noise everywhere that we have failed to notice the growing trend to accept the pandering to of base behavior. This is highly dangerous for humans, who have been slowly lulled into deep sleep.
The biggest problem of islam is that it does not teach about universal accept ion of all religions.Their mind is filled with that Allah is the only god and they are asked whatever is written in quran/hadith is true.I have found many verses which could not stand against logic.Especially 72 houris concept.Until and unless muslims are not exposed to any other religions they could not abandon the fundamentalist ideology.People believe that only illiterate muslims draw toward demonic activities,which is totally wrong.There are 57 muslims country but not a single one is democratic.It is sad but true muslim community can’t live with any other communities.Muslims are the biggest hypocrite of the world.It is good for india that still we have good number of liberal muslims
Actually communism demanded hard work for the collective from the collective. Lazy feudal elites were asked to go work in farms and factories. State needs to generate resources before it can distribute resources. Those who refused to work, or protested, were sent to the Gulag or prison camps where they were whipped to work.
One must also define work. Were the great Hindu poets and philosophers not working? It is mental work. In fact faculty and scholars are working full time…They bring assignments, research and other work home and work on weekends. Some never take holidays. Great theories and insights have come from a lot of emotional and mental work, as well as reading, reflecting and processing. That too is work. Mindless workers, who behave like sheep or robots, in a system…are dangerous. They are “doing’…not “thinking”.
And is not “being” work? Does not Hinduism emphasize the importance of the “being”…over “doing without purpose, acting without meaning and indulging in tasks that are mindless and only material focused”?
Reciting slokas (in Sanskrit or Tamil) for hours while fasting, if you have seen it, is hard work: Long memorizations, exact recitation, enunciation and keeping the pitch, melody and the group recitation correct is hard work. But for some it is just a bunch of lazy men with a paunch doing nothing.
Great music, dance and theater comes from creative work. Sometimes years of trial, error and frustrations. But for some it is just pleasure and very elitist.
Women who nurture are working. When they talk, listen, comfort the sick, the elderly and the children..they are working. Even when they quietly gaze out the window their mind is planning, thinking, processing and noticing. That is why the husband cannot see the coffee mug under the chair but the wife can…and she has to instruct him to put it in the kitchen, Following instructions is easier than actually planning, administering and managing sometimes. Sometimes following instructions on very elaborate tasks is hard. It requires a lot of focus and mental energy.
China has a lot of hard working people. I don’t know if the author has been to Russia and China. Because life was frugal without all the Capitalistic cars, TVs, microwaves and pleasures of capitalism…people worked from dawn to dusk. Even today Chinese are some of the most hard working people around the world. Communism in China and Russia was actually very hard on those who did not comply with State instructions and demands…that included people who refused to work, or were reluctant to work, or protested against bad working conditions.
Some would say Capitalism makes people stupid and lazy…and it creates disparity, inequality and exploitation of the poor…who over time lose their incentive to work, partly because social-economic mobility does not exist.
Indian middle and upper class men rarely drive their own car, clean their own cars, carry their own bags or fix anything around the house. They are some of the laziest capitalist bullies I have met. They do earn and pay for their children’s education and daughter’s weddings and build big houses….but if you have seen how active and hard working Chinese, Americans and Europeans are…Indians are not that hard working. I agree it is hard to work hard in a hot humid weather. Moving to Chennai from the beautifully comfortable California or or the long cool mild winters of Florida I see how weather affect people’s actions and even thinking.. It is hard to work hard in hot humid weathers, and it is cruel to exploit workers in such a weather.
Let me deviate a little, and then come back…
US, as few might know or remember, is going to become oil independen or self sufficientt before 2020. With drilling all over the US, all over its coast and even deep ocean beds, oil from Canada, Mexico and the Arctic, and quiet investments going on in alternative energy (including solar energy), there would be no more need for imported oil. And that means politics as it used to be will change dramatically in ME. This means that those who have made living and gained power through their oil oligarchy – also know humorously as oilgarchy, and monarchy will be in double trouble. So trouble…some may create to stay out of a possible double trouble.
In this article where is the room for a growing pool of shrewd economic players who will moderate, mediate or appear middle…because “wealth can sometimes trump or dilute ideology”. Is that not what capitalism claims sometimes? Will not some economic Karma overtake some religious Dogma?
Or…is dogma merely changing shades and hues until its true colors come out again, again and again?
If Capitalism is capital for growth or change, then should this not apply to religion as well. What does Capitalism do to religion, religious ideology and religious fundamentalism? If some get richer and very rich in a capitalistic system…will they not fund fundamentalists ideology? Will the elites, in feudal capitalism, not be prone to ideological persuasions or ideological loyalties?
Nordic countries are Socialist…and they have a better economy than India, better standard of education than the US, less violence than England, and happier healthier people.
Granted it is easier to be a small homogenous country. with good resources or access to resources, and be a successful Socialist country.
India must find its own path.
Point you are missing here is, there is a big difference between the rule of communism and the spread of communism. i.e. what they say when communists want to attain power and when they attained power. People under communist rulers have to worked hard like you said. So, for the spread of communism, hardwork was not their agenda. Even today, labour unions are staying just by supporting the lazy mind, only those who are under the rulers/leaders of communism, will be made to work harder. I refer “Animal Farm” by George Orwel, to completely understand the Modus operendi of Communists.
When i read your comments about capitalism, relegion, i want to convey one simple thing by this article, i.e. root of sustenance of JIHAD. No isms can sustain for long unless it caters to basic instincts of humans in a sophisticated or established way. Radical islam has done this effectively.
Shreesha, thank you for writing (politely and with some clarity).
In my more than thirty years of involvement in higher education I always ask, “Why is it some people, young and old, are always open to learning, questioning and trying to find answers that are accurate or correct ; logical or rational ; reliable or trustworthy ; beneficial or meaningful ; reliable or authentic and caring or humane? And others…actually reject even simple facts like 2 plus 2 is 4 even when they have education, are of average intelligence and are surrounded by people who can explain why 2 plus 2 is 4 and not 8 with patience, clarity and kindness”? The latter has been the most baffling aspect of “challenges in higher education”…even today. How does one help change, or even help people question, a deeply held belief system, that may even be false?
Fostering a critical mind in a community of conformists and compliant followers or brainwashed doers is no easy feat.
I beg to differ on two issues that you wrote: Communism did not just make people work for communism sake, it was for collective welfare and probably now collective wealth. It is not enough to preach the value of something unless the ordinary masses understand its benefits. Many people did join the big March and were passionate proponents of communism because they saw it as having a direct benefit to their lives. It provided for basic resources with dignity that they did not have before. Communism is much more logical, simple, clear and well triangulated than capitalism. But application or implementation of a theory or an ideology is a different issue. This is why Russian communism was different than Mao’s communism…which is different than modern communism. And kindly remember all Socialisms are not Communism, though Communism is one form of Socialism.
Secondly, I am fully aware of the article.
When John Leguizamo once jokingly said about Gays voting Republican, “Gays for Republicans – it’s like roaches for Raid.”, somebody responded, “Well if roaches are for Raid that is okay….but when they start spraying Raid on me, my kids and on my food…that is when it is time to stop the cavalcade”.
One could say that of some religions too..Some people keep supporting, struggling for, voting for, and dying for something that has already killed them: their mind that is, or is likely to kill them in the future,
Change or improvement is possible…but not when falsehood is held by the majority aggressively and with antagonism to any challenge. Or when falsehood is in power. I am a strong believer that education can enlighten the mind…and get the best out of their falsehoods, and send them to confront falsehoods in their own communities. But our educational system has suffered a big blow in the last thirty years too.
Fostering a critical mind in a community of conformists and compliant followers or doers is no easy feat.
“Actually communism demanded hard work for the collective from the collective”
Communism simply assumes that lay collectivity does hardwork, it does not demand hardwork. Its only demand is from what it defines as elite on its own arbitrary bases. It is such assumptions that made communism a failure in civilization and economy building.
Islam and Communism are both reactionary aasuric ideologies to the aasuric Church and Church-backed capital. To blithely refer to the death of communism as being the result of acceptance of “US-style capitalism” without going into the inherent inequity of capitalism is dishonest. Communism was as much against capitalism as it was against the church which was on the side of capital. Church, Islam, capitalism and communism are all Abrahamic siblings and equally iniquitous.
Overall the article is good except for the distinguishing FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAM I think ISLAM in general is FUNDAMENTALIST you can not seperate them as Moderate or Fundamentalist.A moderate Muslim is considered a KAFIR and as Koenrad Elst has always said that its not the Muslims but ISLAM and their Prophet Muhammad which creates problems and criticism of either or both make even the so called MODERATE muslim become violent so how can we seperated ISLAM by saying one is Moderate and the other is Fundamentalist.
ISLAM IS FUNDAMENTALIST PERIOD
This is an interesting topic. So for instance, any practicing muslim out there (specifically in sub-continent context), who accept his/her dharmic roots can be called a moderate/liberal muslim. However, I doubt if the ‘ummah’ would consider them muslim. Hence, the ‘moderate muslim’ conundrum.
The “true” Hindus in Hindu society, “true” muslims in Islamic ghettos (no equivalence here, just a matter of fact) etc are always a smaller proportion. Although if all Hindus are to become true Hindus the world would be greatly civilized and if all Muslims are to become true Muslims mankind would perish from the earth. So whether moderate muslims are muslims according to the ummah or per koranic definition is not really a pertinent question. They are simply humans who live in an eternal dilemma and split loyalty with faith on one side and morality, civilization, nation etc on the other. Moreover moderate muslim hardly means one is a moderate human and a muslim. It just refers to one who belongs to the islamic community by birth/marriage/fear/any other means and is not a jihadi/true muslim.
This is exactly what I wanted to highlight, a muslim in dilemma is not a moderate muslim, the one who overcomes the dilemma by renouncing the dogmas laid down in Quran can hardly be considered a muslim.
I do not see any disagreement, but I responded because it is a switch of prism through which these words are applied. Namely, when one says moderate or dilemma it is essentially looking at a Muslim through a non-Islamic lens whereas one being “considered a muslim” is an Islamic lens.
So nicely decribed about the NAUTANKI of this so called “MODERATE MUSLIM” !
Hindus destroyed hundred of mosque including babri masjid
hindus are doing mass human right violation in mqbooza kashmir . 3 lakh kashmiris lost their life it is UN report but actual figure is more than that .
Most important thing hindus block our economic progress by not giving us SC and ST status . the hindus of pakistan and bangladesh can even get SC and ST status but not us . the economic condition of indian muslim is even worse than dalit hindus because we don’t have SC and ST status
hindus are bad i hate them
Mr. Shanu.. Muslim rulars ruled india for almost 800 years.. This was the most barbaric ruling..killed countless and destroyed many temples converted many hindus and did lot of bad things..yet you say these words. Muslims Enjoyed the status and now you say you are worse than dalits.. What you know about dalits Mr?
What about kashmiri pandits who are still in refugee camps..
I hope you read proper history.. You have qouted Bangladesh.. Good.. How many hindus are left in that country..how many are persecuted on daily basis..
First try to live in harmony with other religious people.. And please read proper history..
Since you talked all BS.. I guess that you are a paki..
Pakistan came into existence because Indian muslims “talked all BS” and blackmailed the nation through a series of genocides in hundreds of thousands. There is no real difference between a “paki” and an Indian Muslim: when time comes as did in Kashmir few decades ago, they come out in their true barbaric colors. It is Hindus who keep deceiving themselves with notions like “good muslims”. “reformation” and so on. Muslims as a community are very very clear that kafirs are their enemies.
i am pathan of junagadh my grandfather is from zabul province of afghanistan
How did any single mosque come into existence in the subcontinent if not brought in by invasions, you taqiya hero? How exactly did kashmir become islamic if not through genocide, rape, arson, you taqiiya hero? How exactly did slave and oppressed communities come into existence in india if not for islamist enslavement, you taqiya hero?
“hindus are bad i hate them”
That you hate is because your doctrine is a hate mongering doctrine. You are the aggressor and you are the hater both. Abundant lies and fraud apart from intimidation is also an inherent part of your doctrine. To portray your aggression as your own victimhood is an inherent part of your doctrine. To demonstrate your own doctrinal barbarism is by now too common although you can’t see your ownself in the mirror: you cannot because honesty is prohibited in your doctrine.
You have so accurately exposed the Muslims who claim to be the eternal victims of Non-Muslims.
These Muslims compete so as to get themselves proved as victims.They do this only to make it clear to the non-Muslims that now it is their right to retributions for the injustice caused to them.
Since their religion asks them to victimize others the best way to get an opportunity to victimize others is by themselves claiming to have suffered injustice at the hand of non-MUSLIMS !
Muslims don’t need SC/ST benefits because there is no caste system in Islam. If they want the reservations based on this, they need to accept their dharmic roots and come back to the Hindu fold. In any case, you are a Pakistani, ask the Chinese to give you reservations and benefits since you are under their vassalage now.
i am not pakistani i am pathan of junagadh my grandfather is from zabul province of afghanistan
Among muslim of subcontinent caste system exist .
their is no difference between sen(barber) and ansari
khatik(butcher) and quraishi are same
hindus don’t give SC & ST Status due to hatred
The proponents of Islam specifically say that everybody is equal in Islam, and, we all know that caste system is perceived to be based on inequality. Hence, if we go by this logic and your statements, there are 2 eventualities:
1. Everybody is not equal in Islam.
Or,
2. Islam is a sub-sect of Hinduism.
Now, you need to debate this out with your ‘ulema’ instead of blaming Hindus. You can not apply different yardsticks on Islamic teachings, based on region.
the muslims is divided into several community . we usually marry inside your community . but most important thing i became extremely sad when i was talking to u because may be u r kind hearted person . i also insulted your god so please forgive me i am saying from my heart
Community (jati) is not equivalent to caste (varna system). Modern day reservations are based on the premise that people belonging to a certain caste did not have equal opportunities, hence, remained in poverty. However, since there was a Muslim rule for over 600 years, I don’t see that being the case with modern day Muslims, who remain poor because of their own choices and not lack of opportunities. In fact, there should be no reservations for religious minorities either, if everybody is an Indian, and, India being a secular state, where does the question of religious minority arise.
large number of hindu from every caste embrace islam . india is hindu rashtra not secular nation
Largely forced at the tip of a sword or economic compulsions. We did have a chance back in 1947 to make India a Dharmic Rashtra, missed it. Oh well!
Hindus don’t have any SC/ST, go study who got these groups into that status. Jaundiced attribute their own hatred to others.
And of course, the few dalits that were recently crushed under a tractor are to blame for inciting the upper castes to attack them?
It seems you are the production of H1ndus
i am your father bloody hindu baniye
i did mutta with your mom . she will tell u if u asked her
You people can only have s@s with camels. Your people used to talk like you. See what happened to him
YOU STARTED HATE, HATE WILL FINISHED YOU AND ENTIRE ISLAM WAIT AND WATCH
How about enrolling in job training instead of hate mongering. India’s reservation system is not productive and need to be replaced by affirmative action.
your ancestors were hindus, do you hate them too. or just us.
This is an excellent illustration of the mentality the author has described. This is exactly the mentality Islam inculcates.
Muslims ruled this country for 800 years and still do via the pseudo Gandhi family that is known to be Muslim. Still, you want rights over and above the rest of the population without any duties towards the nation.
The proportion of the well off is more among Muslims than among Hindus. By maintaining highly biased laws such as RTE, the Government and the judiciary pander to this class of Muslims.
There is also a large percentage of poor among Muslims. I doubt if the percentage is higher than the percentage of poor among Hindus. This class among the Muslims is kept economically backward by Muslim society heads and the pseudo secular political parties.
Due to the deep phobia against a modern education, and not a lack of opportunity, such Muslims stay poor and keep asking for freebies from a working society. This is your modus operandum. So, stop your baseless rant.
gandhi family is pundit hindu . Indira married a pathan and coverted him to hindu . if they are muslim they never break pakistan because pakistanis are our true brothers
they captured kASHMIR nehru offered refrenddum in kashmir but later forget his promise , kashmir has greater autonomy but indira is the one who abolished autonomy of kashmir in 197 . if gandhi family really likes muslims we have sc and st status . their is also no anti beef law in india . indira refused to give citizenship to rohingya muslim of burma they are indian hails from uttar pradesh and settled by british in burma . british also settle tamil and bihari hindus in burma .when burma cancel citizenship of indians she take all hindu back but deny citizenship to rohingya . Nehru gave order destroy a mosque in junagadh and built somnath temple in place of it
one thing never forget pundits was real ruler of india before islam came . they know one thing they don’t defeat us by brain so they are playing with their mind
i am M.TECH in power system currently working as electrical engineer in suraa city of kuwait
every year i send thousand of us dollar to my india
Trust me the feeling is MUTUAL
Going by what your opinions are you dont seem to be interested in reading but still I will give you some links along with my counter to your wonderful thoughts beautifully expressed here.
First read what BB.LAL Head of Archeological Survey of India’s 60 pg report.The ASI found remains of a Hindu Mandir burried under BABRI MASJID.Even Encyclopedia Britannica accepts the fact.Next you have not provided any proof where was any other Masjid which was demolished.Where as there is enough proof which suggest that over 2000 Temples of Hindus,Jains and Buddhists were demolished by Muslims.Read Hindu Temples what happened to them Volume I&II
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/htemples1/
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/htemples2/
The Appendix of the first volume contains a list of temple-destructions and atrocities that the took place in Bangladesh in 1989 and this was done just after the Shilanyaas on 9th and 10th November 1989 and your beloved Babri Masjid was not even demolished and this Shilanyaas was done by your beloved Rajiv Gandhi the secular Nehruvian Congress PM.Your Muslim brothers of Bangladesh started with 73 INCIDENTS where temples,Ashrams,Property and Hindus were attacked.
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/htemples1/app.htm
3 Lakh Kashmiris you say I ask what about 8 Crore Hindus who were killed during the Genocides committed by you MUSLIMS and what about the 5 Lakh Kashmiri Pandits they live like Nomads.Your MAZHAB spread only because of JIZYAH and commiting Genocides
http://www.bharatvani.org/books/demogislam/appendix.html
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/demogislam/
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/jihad/
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/jtsi/index.htm
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/tlmr/
Just visit http://voiceofdharma.org/ the true History will be unveiled not that that a BELIEVER of the Mazhab would believe or read it but still.
Next SC ST Status well visit
http://www.slideshare.net/sandeepIF/muslims-and-xian-govt-schemes
The above Slides are well researched by Sandeep Balakrishna and Indiafacts team which even in a CONSERVATIVE Estimation you get Over Rupees 23,261.72 CRORES are being given by a HINDU MAJORITY NATION for you so called MINORITIES who owe their allegiance towards SAUDI ARABIA and other Muslim countries.Now it would be interesting if we could find out how much of TAX is collected from Hindus and how much of its collected from you So called Minorities.I think its difficult especially with Indirect Taxation but that would tell you the real picture.So basically you eat drink sleep flourish in our HINDURASHTRA and you have the audacity to say you HATE HINDUS.Well I got news for you each one of us is not a GANDHIAN and Modi will do nothing that will harm you guys but he will surely build a base a LAUNCH PAD for the next SAVARKAR to take the place of PM and mind u we SAVARKARITES believe in TIT FOR TAT.So beware there could be a COUNTER JIZYAH on Muslims known as a MLECCHA/NASTIKA Tax.
Interesting thought, the Mleccha tax. Economic incentive coupled with brutal force did work wonderfully for Islam all over the world. No reason why it shouldn’t work for others.
Hello Karthick,
What are your views about Mleccha Act/Tax?
I am still in the process of formation so please do contribute.For instance No Mleccha will be allowed to have sons and if they do they are supposed to give away to the government and the government will raise them as Hindu/Dharmics and will be given to different Mathas,Gurus,Hindus/Dharmics who dont have children and want to adopt a child and many of them for the Army.
No Abrahamics(Mleccha) will be allowed to keep their new born sons even if they are willing to pay any price and once taken by the Government their know abouts will not be told to the Mleccha family.Only way of escaping it is to come back to the Dharmic Fold (No Compromises).
If the Mleccha daughter marries another Mleccha she along with her family will have to give away their full property to the Government for marrying into the Mleccha fold.
Similary if the daughter of a Dharmic/Hindu marries a Mleccha she along with her family will have to give away their full property to the Government for marrying into the Mleccha fold.Provided if the Mleccha family she is marrying into come back to the Dharmic fold or else the Mleccha Act/Tax is applicable on them.
A Dharmic man will be allowed to marry as many Mleccha girls as they financially can sustain provided atleast one of the wife was born in the Hindu/Dharmic fold (ie to avoid discrimination against Hindu/Dharmic girls)and the Mleccha women are brought back to the Hindu fold with the Man’s Family being subsidised in some form for his contribution to Dharma.
Now as far as the daughters are concerned they will eventually be a day when there will be No Mleccha Men left to marry hence they have to let their daughters marry Hindu/Dharmics thus bringing them back.
Also Mlecchas will be ostracized as in treated as in they will not be allowed to move up the order especially into Jobs in Military, Police, Banking and Administrative or even Politics.This is applicable as long as they practice their Mleccha Dharma but if they revert back to Dharmic fold then the Act will be scrapped immediately and noone will be allowed to look down or illtreat them in anyway.
Even Laws related to Mlecchas will be taken from their theology for instance a practicing Mleccha in this case of Christian faith if found guilty of committing any crime or even breaking a rule he/she along with their full family will be punished since they believe in the concept of Original Sin and this sin is passed from parents to child hence the person committing the sin all the members of his family practicing the Mleccha Dharma we will be awarded the same punishment as him.In case of a village or even towns this could be applicable to the whole Community since their Salvation lies not as an Individual but as a whole community.
Similarly certain Laws of the Sharia could be construed in our favour as in if a Muslim Man commits a crime then his hands will be cut off or if a Muslim women is raped by a Muslim Man then the man will get his lashings or killed along with the women being stoned to death.But if the Mleccha rapes a Dharmic women he along with his full family will be Forced to eat Pig Manure until their stomachs burst (I know you must be wondering is this guy nuts).Even things like Halal will fall under the Mleccha Act/Tax.The only way to escape the Mleccha Act/Tax is coming back to the Hindu/Dharmic fold.
Well , if we start adhering to or take points out the semitic laws , our Dharmic laws would become nothing but Corrupted or rather valueless….but having said that ” CHANGE IS THE ONLY THING THAT DOESN’T CHANGE”…………CHANGE IS CONSTANT & YES OFF COURSE, WE GOTTA CHANGE……….
You seem to be the example of the jihadi mindset that this article talks about and victim of self-denial and affected by false jihadi propaganda. Answer this:
#1. STOP THE LIES. Please provide the source of UN report of 3 lakh kashmiris lost lives. Also, does that number 3 lakh include Kashmiri Hindus who have been forced to leave Kashmir homeland due the ethtnic cleansing imposed by jihadi terrorists? The correct number of Kashmiris (all religions) including deaths of security forces in around 50,000 since 1947. This is the fact based report issued by J&K Government in 2012. I remember J&K government is muslim.
#2. Why should all muslims get SC and ST status when all Hindus/Sikhs/Buddhists/Jains/Christians don’t get SC/ST status?? Why are you special that constitution should be bent ONLY for you? Besides there is no caste system in Islam. Isn’t that what your mullahs preach all the time?
#3. Re: your comment “Hindus are bad, I hate them” – GET SOME SENSE. IF HINDUS WERE THAT BAD THEN THERE WOULD NO MUSLIM LEFT IN INDIA TODAY. During partition, we didn’t force all muslims to leave India and that’s why we’ve had muslim presidents of our nation and the current VP is a muslim also. But if you think that we’re bad, then you are welcome to go to any muslim majority nation where you can be happy oppressing the minorities. Please get lost. We don’t need desh drohis and jihadis like you.
About hating us, you are only hating your forefathers as most people in Indian sub-continent were Hindus before the forced/co-erced conversions.
Do you prefer Pakistan?
i am pathan of junagadh not pakistani
brother, convert back to Hinduism…your ancestors probably converted due to fear of the Muslim invading tyrants. Now you can live free as a Hindu in India, follow whichever spiritual path appeals to you, and learn to think with an open, unbiased mind….