Published On: Sat, Feb 7th, 2015

The Adulteress or the misogyny of Jesus Christ

The Bible narrates an episode about Jesus and an accused adulteress (John 8:1-11). In this narrative, Jesus is in an assembly with his disciples. A mob brings a woman to the assembly, accuses her of having committed adultery, and prepares to stone her to death in accordance with the biblical law (Leviticus 20:10, Deuteronomy 22:22). In our own time, Pope Francis claims that the mob had even bound her hands although the Bible doesn’t mention that. Perhaps, god revealed this additional information to the pope in a private missive.

I will first provide the Christian version and interpretation of the rest of the story. The mob asks Jesus whether she should be stoned to death. The question is intended as a trap. If Jesus affirmed the punishment, the mob would unleash a propaganda accusing him of not defending the woman. Had he asked the mob to forgive her, he would have been accused of violating the biblical law. After all, Jesus had vowed to fulfill such cruel, misogynistic laws in letter and in spirit (Matthew 5:17).

[pullquote]First, the reasonable critic is struck by the fact that Jesus took no initiative to intervene when the mob prepared to stone the woman to death. The sight of a helpless woman with her hands bound (if what Pope Francis claims is true) and terrorized by a mob baying for her blood would move any empathetic person. [/pullquote]

So, Jesus is in a quandary. He remains silent and keeps doodling on the ground but the mob insists that he reply. Finally, Jesus replies by urging one of the mobsters who is sinless to cast the first stone at the woman. Every one of the mobsters, evidently recognizing that nobody is sinless, disperses. Jesus then admonishes the woman against sinning and asks her to leave.

Pope Francis argues that this incident illustrates the merciful nature of Jesus. He insists that by not denying the charge leveled against her, the woman implicitly admitted her adulterous conduct. She deserved to be stoned to death in accordance with the biblical law. Jesus himself could have hurled the first stone as he was sinless. However, Jesus, in an act of mercy, goes beyond the law and shows her mercy.

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Christians often invoke this narrative to portray Jesus as the poster boy of mercy and compassion and to argue that he stood up for the disenfranchised despite the legal odds stacked up against him. Is it true? Was Jesus really merciful and compassionate? Or was he cruel and lacking in empathy? Was he entirely without a moral compass? Let us now examine the same episode as well as a related biblical episode through the prism of reason to answer these questions.

First, the reasonable critic is struck by the fact that Jesus took no initiative to intervene when the mob prepared to stone the woman to death. The sight of a helpless woman with her hands bound (if what Pope Francis claims is true) and terrorized by a mob baying for her blood would move any empathetic person. The mob must have thought of Jesus as a person of some standing to elicit his opinion about the impending brutal punishment. Such a person may even be able to influence the outcome. Yet, Jesus showed complete apathy toward the plight of the woman. He never thought of coming to her rescue. Even when prodded by the mob, he initially remained indifferent and silent. It was only upon repeated questioning that he responded.

Could an empathetic and compassionate person have behaved the way Jesus did? This question can be easily answered by placing yourself in a hypothetical scenario. You are chatting with 12 of your friends in a park. A gang of men attempt to forcibly disrobe a woman in front of your eyes. You pretend as if nothing is happening and continue chatting with your friends. Would the world hail you as merciful and compassionate? No, it would revile you as cowardly. You, along with your 12 friends, could have easily attempted to rescue the woman. However, you opted to remain a silent witness. Now, remember that Jesus had at least 12 disciples with him when the mob brought the womanfor stoning her to death. Jesus and his disciples could have easily attempted to rescue her. However, Jesus pretended as if nothing was happening. How does that make him merciful, empathetic, and compassionate – and not cowardly?

Second, the reasonable critic is struck by the fact that Jesus rhetorically provoked a self-styled sinless person to cast the first stone at the woman. One of them could have cleverly retorted, “Jesus, aren’t you sinless? Why don’t you cast the first stone?” Jesus, who had vowed to defend barbaric biblical laws – see Matthew 5:17, would have had no option other than lead the stoning. What kind of justice is it that entrusts mobsters with self-introspection on morality?

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Mobsters that participate in stoning are surely not empathetic and some of them may even be psychopathic without a moral compass. What if one such person had considered himself to be sinless and initiated the stoning? The hapless woman would have died. Jesus had done everything to endanger the life of the woman by entrusting it to the self-judgment of the mobsters. The only reason she survived was those mobsters, on that day, happened to be exceptional; they seem to have introspected, found themselves to be sinful, and dispersed. If someone deserves admiration here, it is the mobsters – for dispersing without stoning.

Is Jesus then guilty of instigating, aiding, and abetting a murderous crime? This question can be easily answered by returning to the hypothetical scenario where you are in a park when gangsters attempt to forcibly disrobe a woman. The gangsters come to you and ask whether they should rape the woman or let her go. You stonewall their question. However, upon repeated prodding, you answer, “Let the courageous one among you rape her first.” Your prompting the courageous one among the gangsters to initiate the rape would be considered as an act of criminal instigation because very few rapists would think of themselves as cowards. In a civilized judicial system, you and your friends would be treated as instigators and accomplices in an attempted rape. You would be awarded considerable prison time.

Moral policemen and religious fanatics think of themselves as moralistic; that is precisely why they take it upon themselves to punish a woman accused of adultery. It is very likely that those mobsters could have thought of themselves as sinless and one of them could have initiated the stoning. It is only an exceptional coincidence that they thought otherwise. Now, apply the same yardstick from the previous paragraph and decide whether Jesus instigated, aided, and abetted a murderous crime.

Third, the reasonable critic is struck by the fact that Jesus refused to repudiate the barbaric laws that mandate stoning an adulteress to death; instead, he vowed to fulfill those (Matthew 5:17).Only the whims of the mobsters or a messiah could spare the life of an adulteress.Here, Jesus displayed servility toward biblical laws even though they are barbaric.

In this regard, the misogynistic apostle Paul comes across as a refreshing contrast to Jesus. Even though biblical laws mandate circumcision, Paul took a stance against such laws (Galatians 6:11-18). Needless to say, Paul was not moved by the brutality of genital mutilation and child abuse. His intent was less than honorable.He was trying to convert the pagans, who resisted circumcision, by hook or by crook. So, Paul was willing to repudiate biblical laws to harvest gullible souls.

[pullquote]Moral policemen and religious fanatics think of themselves as moralistic; that is precisely why they take it upon themselves to punish a woman accused of adultery. [/pullquote]

However, these episodes allow us to contrast Jesus with Paul: while Paul displayed a willingness to challenge biblical laws, albeit with a dishonorable motive and as expediency, Jesus displayed servility toward biblical laws even when they were barbaric. One does not admire the brainwashed jihadists of Al Qaeda, the Taliban, or the ISIS when they endorse the barbaric sharia laws that mandate stoning an adulteress to death. How can one admire Jesus whose servility toward religious laws mirrors that of these jihadists?

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Fourth, the reasonable critic is struck by the fact that Jesus proclaimed the woman sinner without basis and admonished her not to commit adultery again. Pope Francis shockingly affirms that she must have been guilty of adultery because she neither proclaimed her innocence nor denied the charge of adultery in the kangaroo court.

This is an illogical way to draw an inference. In John 18:28-40, Jews accuse Jesus of having committed some unspecified crime serious enough to warrant death penalty. Jesus neither denies the charge nor proclaims his innocence when Pontius Pilate interrogates him. Therefore, by the absurd logic that Pope Francis employs, Jesus must have been guilty of some unspecified heinous crime – perhaps it was the crime of instigating a murderous mob to stone an innocent woman to death!

A woman accused of adultery and being prepared for stoning would be in a state of shock. Who could she have appealed to and proclaimed her innocence? Is it to the murderous mob or to the messiah who instigated the mobsters?

Jesus was the one who was asked to adjudicate. He was the one who should have conducted animpartial inquiry to ascertain the charges. However, he failed miserably in discharging his responsibility first by displaying cowardice and then by criminally instigating the mob. What else could that defenseless woman in a state of shock have done other than remain silent? Who but a heartless person would pronounce her guilty based on that silence? Tragically, the Christian sense of justice that Pope Francis displays is no different from the Islamic sense of justice that the jihadists of Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and the ISIS display.

A reasonable analysis of the episode informs us that Jesus was cowardly and lacking in empathy. He defended misogynistic and barbaric laws. He was not merciful or compassionate as Christian propagandists claim. The inference that Jesus was a cruel misogynist who was without a moral compass is reinforced by another biblical verse.

[pullquote]In Hinduism,the sin of adultery is removed not by punishment but rather by truthfulness. The woman who on her own volition regrets her adulterous conduct is not punished but considered purified as a result of the sacrificial rite. There is no advocacy of hubris and shunning of her.[/pullquote]

Jesus taught that whoever married a divorced woman commits adultery (Luke 16:18). Biblical law took a dim view of divorce but allowed a man to divorce his wife (Deuteronomy 24:1). However, a woman could not divorce her husband. Such misogynistic laws were motivated by the urge to keep the woman on a tight leash and to treat her as a property of the men folk.

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A man who divorced his wife had to give her a get(bill of divorce), so she could remarry. She would be technically committing adultery, a crime punishable by death, if she remarried without receiving the get. This made the woman dependent on her husband even after he had divorced her. Such a woman was called an agunot(chained wife), until she received the get. She could be denied a remarriage if a vengeful ex-husband refused to give her the get. All of these testify to the precarious status of women in biblical society. Jesus refused to empathize or sympathize with the marginalized divorcee. He made her plight worse by his repulsive advocacy of hubris and shunning of her. His condemnation of the defenseless and pitiable agunot undoubtedly prolonged her agony.  A reasonable person can no longer deny that Jesus was a cruel misogynist.

A critic may argue that all ancient societies were misogynistic and that Jesus was merely a product of his times. If so, why worship him or hail him as exceptional? However, this objection can be easily answered by analyzing the traditional Hindu attitude toward adultery.

Varuṇa-praghāsa is a traditional Vedic Hindu seasonal rite performed during chatur-māsya. During this rite, the householder and his wife offer a barley meal to the deity Varuṇa as an act of expiation for sins committed knowingly or unknowingly. During the rite, one of the priests asks the wife, “How many lovers do you have?” She utters their names or holds up the number of fingers or blades of grass that tally her amours – in case she had committed adultery. The priest then chants a mantra that Varuṇa may free the woman from sins. The householder then unties his wife’s ornamental waist chain and they together take a sacrificial bath after reciting the verses from the Taittirīya Saṁhita 1.8.3 and 1.1.10.

As David Knipe aptly points out (Vedic Voices – Intimate Narratives of a Living Andhra Tradition, p. 208), in Hinduism,the sin of adultery is removed not by punishment but rather by truthfulness. The woman who on her own volition regrets her adulterous conduct is not punished but considered purified as a result of the sacrificial rite. There is no advocacy of hubris and shunning of her.There is no question of kangaroo courts leveling such accusations against her.

Hinduism takes an enlightened view of a woman and sees her as a sacred person.It values chastity for men and women. However, it also takes an empathetic approach to human conduct. In the event a woman commits adultery, it is willing to consider the situational factors that led to her conduct. Most importantly, even after a trespass, a woman could regain her sacred status by truthfulness alone. Her spouse and family would accept her as before.

The enlightened Hindu approach stands in direct contrast to the misogynistic approach of Jesus and refutes the argument that all ancient societies were misogynistic. It confirms that Christianity ushered in dark ages by sanctifying misogyny much to the detriment and disenfranchisement of women.

A critic may object that the Hindu worldview was not always enlightened or egalitarian when it comes to adultery because even in the Varuṇa-praghāsa rite it is only the woman who confesses. It is important to have a sense of proportion while drawing such inferences. Nowhere does Hinduism prescribe death sentence to an adulteress whereas Christianity does. Nowhere does Hinduism entrust the fate of an adulteress in the hands of mobsters and kangaroo courts whereas Jesus did. Hinduism doesn’t condemn an adulteress whereas Christianity does without even considering the mitigating factors. Hinduism recognizes the innate sanctity of a woman and enables a woman to regain it even after she committed adultery whereas Christianity treats a woman as a mere commodity that can be disposed of as misogynistic men wish.

Therefore, in every sense, Hinduism treats an adulteress much better than Jesus did. If one were to give Hinduism a generous score of 5 on the misogyny index (on a scale of 1 to 100 with 100 being the embodiment of misogyny) then one would give Jesus a solid 100.

More importantly, Hindu traditions are not ossified unlike Christian beliefs. Hindu traditions continually evolve; that is why one dharmaśāstra text supplants another over time. It is because of this reason that Hinduism evolved the notion of kaṛpu (Sanskrit kalpita) or chastity for men as well as women. The Hindu sage Tiruvaḻḻuvar makes it an ideal for men as much as for women: a real man is one who never casts a covetous eye on another man’s wife (The Tirukkuṛaḻ 148).

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This plasticity allows Hinduism to continually improve and become egalitarian. In contrast, Christianity treats the Bible as a revelation from god and hence immutable. As a result, a Christian, be it Jesus or the pope, is incapable of challenging and amending the misogynistic biblical teachings; doing so would be blasphemous. Therefore, Christianscannot challenge biblical teachings and injunctions any more than Jesus could. So, Christianity cannot improve.A society that values women must reject the misogynistic Jesus and Christianity.

About the Author

- Kalavai Venkat is a Silicon Valley-based writer, an atheist, a practicing orthodox Hindu, and author of the book "What Every Hindu should know about Christianity."


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  1. Albert Devasahayam says:

    If prejudice and ignorance are wisdom, you can speak any nonsense. Anyway, you know absolutely little about Jesus. Jesus is not affected by your prejudice and misinformation, but you expose your darkness.

  2. TwoGboforssonia Coal says:

    Christianity is a barbaric religion and to what extent the christians go to effect conversion of Hindus was seen when Portuguese occupied parts of India. From 1540 onwards, Portuguese christians destroyed Hindu temples and erected Christian Churches and chapels built with temple stones, like the Santome church in Chennai after destroying the Kapileswara temple. Portuguese christians banned Hindu rites including marriage rites. They conducted mass conversions. From 1560 to 1812 the barbaric Portuguese christians tortured and killed Hindus in what is known as the inquisition. Hindu men, women, and children were brutally interrogated, flogged, and slowly dismembered in front of their relatives. Eyelids were sliced off and extremities were amputated carefully, a person could remain conscious even though the only thing that remained was his torso and a head and their screams could be heard in the streets, in the stillness of the night.

    Christianity is an unnatural religion
    based on slavery of humans donated to the church while they are kids. While in primary school one the classmate who
    was donated to the church to become a priest, ran away and told us things that
    the priests were trying to do on him. So
    those boys and girls trapped in to becoming nuns and priests are not allowed to
    live a normal life, but had to live the life like a castrated animal and all
    their benefits come after death in the non existent heaven.

    Again according to the party line, the
    Risen Jesus spent 40 days hanging with his Apostles, before bodily ascending
    into Heaven for the duration of human history. When he departed, or so the
    story goes, Jesus (allegedly) put Peter in charge of the Church, a fateful
    (alleged) decision that would lead to centuries of bad blood among the various
    Christian sects. About five minutes
    after Jesus was out of the public eye, the controversy began. It’s universally accepted that Jesus was
    granted his surname, Christ, around this time. Christ is Greek for
    “Messiah,” the fabled Jewish savior was foretold in the Old
    Testament. Prior to this time, the Jewish vision of the Messiah was a bit more
    conventional, involving Kingship and leading their armies to victory against
    the Gentiles. The early Christians
    usurped the whole Messianic complex and voted Most Likely to Save. After that,
    things got sticky. Although there are no reliable historical accounts of the
    first decades of Christianity, the early Christians had divided into camps
    based on their favorite apostles by 100 A.D. These various sects had a lot of
    strange ideas, such as the Gnostics, who claimed that Jesus never died on the
    cross at all. When the followers of the
    peaceful and loving Jesus realized that disagreements existed, they naturally
    began viciously attacking each other. A period of internecine warfare
    commenced, with the followers of the Peter Tradition coming out victorious. The
    surviving entity, known as the Roman Catholic Church, proceeded to spend a
    couple centuries systematically destroying all opposition, only to be
    completely screwed a thousand years later when Martin Luther nailed a laundry
    list of complaints to a church door.

  3. TwoGboforssonia Coal says:

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    realizing the fact that they are converts from the lowest ladder of hindu
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    priest who lived in Kerala and who wrote books on Syrian christians of Kerala
    are actually paraya christians.
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  5. Rezpublica says:

    Worst article I have read this year.

    | I will first provide the Christian version and interpretation of the rest of the story.

    First idiocy: Creating the strawman. It is very easy to defeat a strawman. How about I provide an *actual* Christian version of events? The Pharisees hate Jesus. They want him dead. They want to find any and all reason to accuse him. Even if that means pitting him against the very religious laws that they swear they live by. And so they drag a woman “caught in the act of adultery” (John 8:3). How do they catch her in the act of adultery? Easy, they themselves set her up. They don’t care about her. She is just a pawn in their quest to destroy Jesus. Jesus knows this. How about you actually read the verse properly, Mr Venkat? Or do you simply wish to force your conclusion with your twisted reading?

    | So, Jesus is in a quandary. He remains silent and keeps doodling on the ground but the mob insists that he reply.

    Nope, you completely misread the verse. Rather, you deliberately misrepresent it. Jesus sees the crowd, he’s not afraid of them, he knows what’s going to happen. He knows what they want. He outsmarts them. He doesn’t “doodle” on the ground, he is writing something that the Pharisees themselves don’t want exposed. In the Catholic tradition, he writes “Terra terram accusat”. In other traditions he writes “…and the man also”. Why? Because as the verse that you have claimed Jesus is upholding, Deuteronomy 22:22 states, “If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die”. Notice how it says *both* the man *and* the woman? Of course not, because once again you deliberately want to misrepresent the verse, Kalavai. And astonishingly in the same verse you force the conclusion that Jesus is the one wrong in this scenario.

    | Finally, Jesus replies by urging one of the mobsters who is sinless to cast the first stone at the woman. Every one of the mobsters, evidently recognizing that nobody is sinless, disperses. Jesus then admonishes the woman against sinning and asks her to leave.

    Ahh, like the good deceiver you are, you misrepresent the verse. Again. Jesus doesn’t *urge* anybody to cast stones. Nor does he *admonish* the woman. Rather, when stating “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her” (John 8:7) he reminds them that they themselves are not in any position to accuse her. Where does he urge anybody to do anything? In fact the word urge doesn’t appear anywhere in the verse. You know this, that is why you haven’t included the actual verse in your text, so I have provided it for you. Where does your twisted view come from that Jesus is encouraging anybody to do anything here? Rather Jesus is reminding them of who they are. He is challenging them. He is admonishing *them*, not the woman. Neither is Jesus “apathetic” to the woman as you claim. He knows she is just being used by the Pharisees. That is why his attention is on them. Anybody who doesn’t see this is not being rational.

    | Yet, Jesus showed complete apathy toward the plight of the woman. He never thought of coming to her rescue. Even when prodded by the mob, he initially remained indifferent and silent. It was only upon repeated questioning that he responded.

    “He never thought of coming to her rescue?” Right, because he never said “Quick boys! Grab your weapons! We have to save this damsel in distress!” Venkat thinks that this somehow this means Jesus didn’t come to her rescue. Indeed you even call him “cowardly”. Misrepresenting the verse. Again (do you notice a common theme here, Mr Venkat?). You want Jesus to live up to *your* white-knighting standard. Let me be the first to say, thank goodness he doesn’t do that. How is outsmarting them at their own game a sign of apathy or indifference? You say “Jesus and his disciples could have easily attempted to rescue her. However Jesus pretended as if nothing was happening” Again, you don’t seem to possess an ability to read a verse as it is meant to be plainly read. “How does that make him merciful, empathetic, and compassionate – and not cowardly?” Ok, so by your twisted logic, because Jesus pacified the situation using just his words, this means he was not acting mercifully, empathetically, compassionately, and was in fact acting cowardly. What an almighty leap of a conclusion. He responds, and he responds in a manner that does not incite any violence, and at the same time achieves the desired effect of dispersing the crowd. It is for this reason that your hypothetical scenario is yet another example of you twisting the story. A raped woman is brought in front of me? How dare I act with reason rather than with force.

    | What kind of justice is it that entrusts mobsters with self-introspection on morality?

    Again, misreading. Jesus is not entrusting anybody with anything. He is merely reminding the Pharisees of their hypocritical position. And this is actually enough to make them disperse. Did that not ever strike you as unusual when you read the verse, Kalavai? Why would mere words reach the outcome that actually pacifies the situation? Simple, because he is not entrusting the mob with self-introspection on morality. Jesus knew that the Pharisees knew they were acting in hypocrisy. He was merely reminding them of that. You would understand this if you had taken the time out to read the context of the verse. I repeat, Jesus knew the Pharisees were merely using her as a pawn in their ambitions. You seem to think this was just a crowd that had decided out of nowhere to challenge Jesus on his Mosaic legal knowledge. This is why you cannot see beyond the idiocy of your own statement: “The only reason she survived was those mobsters, on that day, happened to be exceptional; they seem to have introspected, found themselves to be sinful, and dispersed” (and later “It is very likely that those mobsters could have thought of themselves as sinless and one of them could have initiated the stoning. It is only an exceptional coincidence that they thought otherwise”) Ignoring the fact that Jesus *knew* what was happening before they had even opened their mouths. “Jesus had done everything to endanger the life of the woman by entrusting it to the self-judgment of the mobsters”. Nope, Jesus was merely exposing their hypocrisy and making it self-evident. Which he knew would be enough to prevent them from acting. You don’t seem to understand that there was nothing “exceptional” about this at all.

    | “Let the courageous one among you rape her first.”

    Umm, no courageous does not equate to sinless. Courageous does not equate to lack of hypocrisy. Again, twisting the verse to suit your agenda.

    | In a civilized judicial system, you and your friends would be treated as instigators and accomplices in an attempted rape. You would be awarded considerable prison time.

    Oh, so you are an expert in criminal law as well!

    The rest of your article is preconceived nonsense. It is especially telling of your motivations when you try to juxtapose Jesus in this scenario with images of violent Islamist mob executing women, very clever Mr Venkat. Then trying to justify your own Hindu worldview by some bizarre anecdote about a Vedic rite. I’m Indian, but I have never witnessed Hinduism uplifting women in any manner. Jesus certainly uplifted the woman at the well though (John 4:1-26).

    My final point is on your complete lack of understanding of Jesus’ teaching that he will fulfil the Mosaic law. Fulfil does not mean slavishly follow as you seem to think. If that were true, then he would not have stated “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment’. But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment” (Matthew 5:21). In what way is that to slavishly follow the Old Testament law? Not convinced? OK let’s try another one: “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery’. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart” (Matthew 5:27-28). How is this displaying nothing but servility to the Old Testament law either? In fact it is the exact opposite. Jesus fulfils the spirit of the law, and in is not slavishly following it. You claim: “the reasonable critic is struck by the fact that Jesus refused to repudiate the barbaric laws that mandate stoning an adulteress to death”. Despite imposing your own standard of what is “barbaric”, you completely ignore the fact that according to what you’re claiming, she should have deserved death, and Jesus did nothing to stop that. But either you are wilfully ignorant or deliberately misrepresenting what happened, because it is clear as day that Jesus fulfils the spirit of the law and extends mercy on the woman. You may have noticed that he doesn’t condemn her to death. Importantly, he wants what’s best for her, and tells her not to continue committing adultery because it ruins her life and other people’s lives. You know what’s truly astonishing, Mr Venkat, is that these verses which deliberately contradict your claim come immediately after the verse, Matthew 5:17, which you claim Jesus displays nothing but servility in following ‘barbaric’ Old Testament law.

    This means you didn’t even bother to read the very next sentence!

    And for this reason, you get my award for worst article I have read this year.

    Congrats, Mr Kalavai Venkat.

    • Sumathi Megavarnam says:

      The moment i saw your first line , i understood you are another Bigot………Hopefully most of them would have understood it….., you have mentioned as if you sat next to Jesus on that Situation , which is so ridiculous

      • Rezpublica says:

        And the moment I read your comment, I realised you never actually read my full comment. You prefer to simply delude yourselves huh?

  6. so, Jesus is hypothetically the things you claim in this post, hypothetically, because you base your claims on a bunch of “what if” or “how would you rather act in such situation?”. Almost the entire post is an exercise of the petitio principii fallacy.

    In retrospective, the sentence:

    Let us now examine the same episode as well as a related biblical episode through the prism of reason

    is laughable.

    • MahaVakyas says:

      you worship a dirty zombie charlatan with a pike up its behind. know your place

      • This basically means nothing. There is no difference between the comment above and the full blog post.

        Some people in India really need education.

        • Sumathi Megavarnam says:

          Oh really true , We need the education of how to Educate the xtians/pislams in their own method(giving it back in the same coin)

          • another meaningless comment, what’s happening in India, really?

          • Sumathi Megavarnam says:

            Yes Meaningless comments ought to replied in the same manner , India is very much fine & kicking strong

          • While killing priests, raping nuns, and vandalizing Christian churches, schools, and cemeteries? Hard to say, your country needs education— I mean, India needs Christianity to reverse such virulent and fanatic attitude.

          • Sumathi Megavarnam says:

            Hahaha joker you are…..Christianity is doomed ,cut your bs crap rantings , India is much more educated , we wrote poetry when the white men grunted for language ……BTW cut your sic rantings like killing priests. Raping nuns ,vandalising churches , vandalising schools blah blah bs….think so your highlighting things happening in the xtian world currently which is why the POPE keeps apologising day in day out …..

          • Christianity is doomed

            Said all enemies of the Church during their lifetime, and after 2000~ years she is still there.

            BTW cut your sic rantings

            Sure, let’s turn a blind eye about those horrible things that happens in my own house and let’s pretend they don’t happen., this is how you pretend to defend your people of such charges? this is incredible— OH WAIT, you are doing the same things for other threads too!. So sophisticate apologists.

            think so your highlighting things happening in the xtian world currently
            which is why the POPE keeps apologising day in day out …..

            What a ugly calumny, and exaggeration. Anyway, this blog is trash, your comments are almost in the same line, your apologetics are poor (in the line of “AGREE WITH ME OR STFO WITH YOUR BS”), so there is nothing I can said more than would close you more to Truth. In the twilight of your life you will realize of your mistakes.

          • Sumathi Megavarnam says:

            Enemies of the Church…..ROFL , Sanatana dharma has been there for more than 7000 years now , We dont follow any cult shamelessly like you guys……….What terrible happened in My house for you to worry…..You guys did the terrible things to my house & have been deceiving people world over that you are doing a Noble thing….

            People who follow xtianity for them everything would be Trash , coz as the Parents so would be the Children…..You guys need to be apologetic to the entire world & especially to India for the xtians are living on the wealth of us…… ………I would suggest that you realise the Truth now itself so that you can live a better life rather to worry at the twilight of your life…………..Insane xtians keep talking about Truth , Its a very sic joke……

          • Sanatana dharma has been there for more than 7000 years now

            That’s not an institution conformed by human beings, try to keep an institution for 2000 or so years from destruction either from their own members or by external forces/agents, or from changing to conform to the ideas of the times it lives.

            Sanātana Dharma, “the eternal law” or the “eternal way” […] Hinduism prescribes the eternal duties, such as honesty, refraining from injuring living beings (ahimsa), patience, forbearance, self-restraint, compassion, among others.

            So far, I have seen none from this blog or from you. I guess, from your attitude, that Hinduism is the sort of religion that don’t recognizes as their neighbor (sor of speak) people from other ethnicities

            You guys did the terrible things to my house & have been deceiving people world over that you are doing a Noble thing….

            for morbid curiosity, what are those things you keep referring to just to keep me and others away from seeing what Hindus do to Christians, either missionaries and converts? I don’t take responsibility for anything a dumb Protestant missionary (you know what’s a Protestant, right?) has though or promised to others in exchange for their conversions. And what’s the worst thing that can happen to a Hindu if they left for another religion?

  7. paul vilde says:

    there is a really good explanation for the verse Luke 16:18 (if you had bothered to ask or research) other than that the rest of the article is pretty good at glorifying hinduism and vilification of islam and christianity…

  8. Sree Charan R says:

    Nice Article.
    Few questions,
    1)We often see “perverted” versions of Hinduism, today a lot being spread by (so-called) “intellectuals”.And they do that with as much of confidence that the author here is doing here(albeit, ‘they’ do it with serious lack of scholarship).Are these just “tactics”?If not,how to counter them intellectually?(Or is it best to just ignore ‘them’??)
    2)How badly were the scriptures of Hinduism suffered as mistranslation-by Indologists(and continued to this day as ‘accepted’ versions)? I am asking this question because,today you see a lot of “Secularists” quoting those scriptures(?) to support their ‘ideology’.
    3)If not for evangelist reasons,is there any possibility(evidence) that Jesus came to India(and learnt Ayurveda,Yoga??) and hence he suddenly becomes a “Yogi” if not a “Maharishi”-a theory that I hear frequently?{This question is being asked,only out of genuine Historical curiosity!}

    • Kalavai Venkat says:

      Dear Sree Charan R,

      Here are the answers to your questions – I have retained the same numbering:

      1.) I don’t know which specific distortion of Hinduism you have in mind. If you give an example, I can comment. However, here is my generic response. Hinduism has always been diverse. It allows multiple interpretations since it is experiential, truth-seeking, and not dogmatic. In such a system, just as the wisdom of a teacher finds a place, the ignorance of a charlatan too would. However, if any of them praise Jesus, we should be alarmed. More pertinently, the survival of Hinduism is contingent upon the eradication of the ideologies of Christianity and Islam, saving Christians and Muslims from the clutches of Jesus and Allah respectively, and converting them back to dharma. So, I would prefer that the Hindus recognize that eliminating these virulent ideologies is as important as preserving and practising dharma.

      2.) Some have been mistranslated with the intent to defame dharma. Some are good. I won’t treat every Indologist as the enemy. However, even mistranslations do not matter. Hinduism is not a book-based religion. Even if something is bad in an ancient scripture, so what? Hindus have consistently amended such writings. The scenario usually unfolds as follows. An anti-Hindu person will cite an ancient book and scream that its teachings are horrible. A Hindu would get defensive and try to argue that the translation is wrong without realizing that such an argument merely keeps the spotlight on Hinduism. Instead, the correct way to respond is to tell them: “Let us pretend whatever you’ve said about a particular text (e.g., the Manusmṛti) is true. It is a text from a bygone era. Today, you cannot find it in bookstores or even on Amazon. I have no problem discarding it. So, you are flogging a dead horse. Instead, let us talk about the Bible. Kalavai Venkat has demonstrated that its teachings are horrible. The Bible is printed and sold in millions even today. Here is a poisonous snake alive and well. I have no interest in flogging a dead horse when a poisonous snake is threatening my life. Are you ready to reject and repudiate the Bible and Jesus?” That would turn the spotlight on Christianity. Now, a Hindu, if serious, can study Hindu texts in the spirit of inquiry and appreciate their nobility.

      3.) There is no such possibility. As I argue in my book, What Every Hindu Should Know About Christianity, there is no evidence that Jesus existed. He is likely a myth. There is nothing in Christian teachings that is remotely comparable to Yöga or Hindu wisdom. Christianity is a hate-filled cult. I explain all of this at length in my book. Jesus in India is a fabricated myth floated by a 19th charlatan Russian missionary and lapped up by ignorant Hindu gurus.

      Regards,
      KV

      • Sree Charan R says:

        Thank You.For your reply.Many points have been cleared now.
        My original point is this,
        If some one argues that “Krishna,Rama are not ‘historical’ but ‘mythical’ constructs by Hindus”.
        The true intellectual argument should be-
        “Current Scientific evidence undeniably suggests–at least, for an open minded person–that both Ramayana and Mahabharata are not just ‘epics’ but also historical texts,albeit codified in a poetic form. And hence both Rama and Krishna are indeed ‘Historical’ in nature.Period.”
        OR
        If he replies by saying “Your Jesus is also ‘mythical’ construct,satisfied?”,then, it would be inciting quarrels.Anyhow, the original argument of yours seems to be true.
        {If possible,can you write about the works of-at least,a short Memoir- about Viswanatha Satyanarayana,the great Telugu writer.Since,it would be helpful for common people; and I feel, they are most important for ‘modern confused youngsters’?}

        Thank You

        • Kalavai Venkat says:

          Actually, I would provide a very different answer if someone argued that Rāma and Kṛṣṇa are mythical. I would reply, “So what? Let us say, for the sake of argument, they are mythical. Hinduism is not constrained by the historicity of divinities. The teachings stand on their own merit. However, Christianity is false if the historicity of Jesus is false – actually, if the claim that he was resurrected is not true. Since resurrection is entirely bogus and a scientific impossibility, Christianity stands falsified.”

          I would go one step further and answer: “It is important to go beyond the useless claims of historicity and instead ask whether the specific teachings are beneficial or harmful. Numerous Hindu teachings are highly beneficial but Christianity, in toto, is harmful. Kalavai Venkat has shown that Jesus is indistinguishable from a terrorist. Why are you worshiping a terrorist?”

          Of course, this would lead to argument which Hindus should be ready to take up. I am always glad to coach Hindus in debating the Christians.

          • Sree Charan R says:

            Thank You, again, for your reply.
            A rejoinder to your (true)answer:
            “One can NOT ignore the historical aspect of both Mahabharata and Ramayana(of which there is enormous amount of evidence);and Ancient Indian History has the potential to radically change the World History,definitely for better. And we Indians,and the world, deserve to know about our TRUE history.”
            “Even though Hinduism is not ‘preconditioned’ on history,it does not mean it has no record of historical memory.In fact, it values(and records) history in a more ‘ethical’ ,truthful’ and ‘natural’ manner;albeit, symbolized in a poetic form.”
            Few questions,
            Is it true that(You may not like,I understand, to give elaborate answers to these,as they are indeed ‘big’ questions.)–
            1)Hinduism is the only religion that does not speak bad about “others”?
            2)India, in her 10000 years of history,has an unparalleled account of respecting and welcoming “others”, which is solely because of Sanatana Dharma(Hinduism)?
            3)Much of the ‘Literature’ in Ancient India, which are otherwise classified under ‘Mythology’, deals with “Philosophy,Science” and especially “Inner Sciences” .
            {If these are true(to my knowledge, which is),then time has come for Indians to understand them;before any “Foreigner” misinterprets it!}
            Thank You

          • Kalavai Venkat says:

            I am not denying the value of history but merely pointing out that the moment a Hindu starts defending the historicity of Hindu divinities in a debate with a Christian, it is a losing proposition because it keeps the spotlight on Hinduism. The best approach is to argue as I have outlined. Now to your three questions:

            1.) Yes.

            2.) Not always.

            3.) Yes. Please see Breaking India by Rajiv Malhotra and Aravindan Neelakandan.

      • Shubhangi Raykar says:

        In fact quite a lot is fabricated in Christianity. The whole notion of immaculate conception is denying a natural motherhood to a woman and not accepting the dignity of conjugal relationship.

  9. viswag59 says:

    Venkat,

    While you have been able to (quite rightly) highlight the differences in attitude towards an “adulteress”, a question still remains: In Varuna-praghāsa why is the woman asked to reveal the number of lovers she has, while the man doesn’t face the same interrogation?

    Your views Jesus is unquestionably valid – he was a product of his times and was not a special person in any sense. In our Indian situation, the Vedic (misogynistic) laws were being gradually superimposed upon thousands of years of matrilineal social system, wherein polyandry was an acceptable practice.

    • Kalavai Venkat says:

      Viswag59, Have I not already raised this question and answered it in my article? Only a few Indian communities have been matrilineal whereas the most have been patrilineal. Vedic laws were not misogynistic but provided a framework that allowed plasticity. If a practice didn’t enhance the wellbeing of society and individuals, it could be, and was, changed. One could list countless practices as examples. In contrast, Christianity is misogynistic and immutable.

    • Shubhangi Raykar says:

      I remember to have read that at one point in the development of civilization women were free to have sex with any one they were attracted to in spite of being married. I think Uddalak’s mother went with a man like this in the presence of her husband i.e. Uddalak’s father. when Uddalak asked his father he said this was the common practice and women had the freedom. It is Uddalak who changed this. This is all from memory and off hand But not a figment of my imagination.

  10. krishnamoorthy says:

    Love and forgivenss are propagated as though it were Christianity’s monopoly. In the wall of every small medium and palatial churches written in poetic Tamil and other vernacular languages are the divine rulings and make non christians think (brainwashed) so.

  11. Kumar says:

    If Jesus is the only god, then why tamil xians call pope as “pope aandavar”?

  12. K.Harapriya says:

    What could be more myogynistic than requiring a virgin birth to prove divinity? Hindus traditionally have given greater value to motherhood than virginity. Thus, there is no question of virginity attributed to Kausalya or Devaki, yet for us Rama and Krishna are divine and these women are valued because they are mothers.

  13. Radha Rajan says:

    So stoning a woman to death is as much a Christian thing as it is a Muslim thing. Both Abrahamic cults are not simply anti-woman they are murderous cults.

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