Christian missionaries target every single component of Hindu society
Scheming Sadhus, Shastris, Maamis and Iyers
The Church, which focused on harvesting Scheduled Castes and Most Backward Classes in the beginning, has also started concentrating on the upper echelons of the Hindu society. The days of boasting that “All are equal in the eyes of God” are over. Now they target each and every caste and convert them. The employees in media houses, workers in cinema and small-screen industries, and Hindus working in Christian institutions have become vulnerable to conversion attempts. Of late, special attention is being shown to the Brahmin community. ‘Sadhu Chellappaa’ is a notorious figure attired in saffron, started a dubious outfit called ‘Christian Brahmin Seva Samiti’.
His modus operandi is distortion of Hindu scriptures to advance Christianity. He says he became a Christian as per the Order of Jesus and travelled throughout the state converting thousands of Hindus to Christianity. He became a full time evangelist in 1974 and founded the Agni Ministries. Since 1982, he has been running a Tamil monthly magazine, “Agni,” for Tamil people worldwide.
Sadhu Chellappa’s ‘Agni Ministries’ (AM) are governed by “Evangelical Action Team of India” (EATI), founded by him in 1980 in Coimbatore. EATI concentrates on conversion activities in the guise of services in Education and Health. The main objective of EATI and AM is to Plant Churches and Harvest Souls, for which purpose they recruit Pastors and Evangelists and conduct training courses for them.
Sadhu Chellappaa audaciously claims, “Diwali, the festival of lights, is a Christian Festival; Animal Sacrifice is a Christian culture adopted by Hindus and Gayatri Mantra actually glorifies Jesus. The Vedas, the ancient Indian sacred writings had anticipated the coming of Christ to take away the sins of man. They call Him Purusha Prajapati the creator God who would come as a man to offer himself as a sacrifice. Jesus Christ came to fulfill the Vedic quest of the Indian people, because the Vedas are incomplete without Him, just as the Old Testament was fulfilled at the coming of the Messiah”.
He uses the services of another convert Vedanayagam, who brazenly calls himself ‘Pujya Sri Bhagavathar Vedanayagam Sastrigal’. Both of them organize evangelical sessions in the guise of “Kathaakaalakshebam” and hoodwink gullible Hindus. They focus on poor and lower middle class Brahmins, who are ignorant and have poor knowledge of their religious scriptures. Most have personal and financial problems, which make them vulnerable to the Chellappaas and Vedanayagams. (1)
Now we have a new breed of evangelists, who also have special expertise in inculturation techniques. Suseela Ragunathan is a Brahmin convert and she is an office-bearer in Christian Brahmin Seva Samithi. She identifies herself as ‘Suseela Maami Ragunathan’ and conducts evangelical congregations. Another evangelist by name Mani claims to have suffered a lot as a Brahmin Priest and had a turning point in life after converting to Christianity. He is a full time evangelist now identifying himself as Brother Mani Iyer.
Christianising Hindu Festivals
Christianising native festivals of non-Christian nations is a part of inculturation, which is the time tested modus operandi of the Church to increase their harvest of souls. The Roman Catholic Church has been focusing on Pongal for quite some time. The reason may be attributed to the fact that the festival falls in January within days immediately after Christmas and New Year celebrations. The Church effectively uses its control over Dravidian Parties to Christianise Hindu traditions.
In the seventies, the Karunanidhi government fixed Thiruvalluvar’s birthday on the second day of Tamil Month ‘Thai’(16 January). Later in 2007, the Karunanidhi government changed the Tamil New Year from the month of Chithirai to Thai through an ordinance. (2)
[pullquote]Diwali, the festival of lights, is a Christian Festival; Animal Sacrifice is a Christian culture adopted by Hindus and Gayatri Mantra actually glorifies Jesus.[/pullquote]
On the same year at the same time, the DMK government inaugurated a government sponsored festival by name “Sangamam” conceived by a Christian NGO by name Tamil Maiyam founded by Father Jagath Gasper Raj and Karunanidhi’s daughter Kanimozhi. This festival would start with Christmas and end with Pongal. The government roped in all the folk arts and folk music into the Sangamam festival notwithstanding the inclusion of Classical Music and Dance.
A new concept called “Samathuva Pongal” (Egalitarian Pongal) was introduced in which, Pongal was celebrated within the Church premises, wherein people from all religions were made to participate. Though a few Muslims participated in such festivities, they never yielded to the idea of making Pongal inside the Mosques. Even the Christian clergy allowed the celebration only within their premises and not inside the Church. (3)
The recent addition to the Pongal festivities was the fable of ‘Martyr Devasahayam Pillai’ attempting to place his death anniversary alongside Pongal . As B.R.Gauthaman, Director of Vedic Science Research Center observes, “Many Christian festivals have been so “created” in line with the festivals of the local people. In the process, the reasons behind these festivals and the cultural identities in the minds of the locals have all but been annihilated, for which history bears testimony. By keeping the date of the death of Devasahayam Pillai conveniently open, it is amply clear that the ‘Devasahaayam Pillai Festival’ too has been craftily created by the Church to destroy the ancient tradition of celebrating Pongal. (4)
[pullquote]Backed by the Church and funded by foreign sources, many Christian Organisations make well-planned short-duration documentaries after distorting Hindu scriptures to suit their convenience. [/pullquote]
This clearly shows their agenda of using the Hindu festival only to convert gullible people. Many Christian organizations like ‘Jesus Redeems Production’ produced documentaries on “Christian Pongal” with traditional Hindu dance forms and distributed them, apart from releasing them on YouTube. (5)
In fact, Christianising Hindu dance forms have been going on for more than two decades. Institutes like Kalai Kaviri have been doing precisely that. In due course, many other organizations have come up both within and outside India. For example, Tamil Catholic Chaplaincy of Germany is one such organisation which celebrated Tamil Christian Festivals using Hindu Classical Music like Carnatic and Dance forms like Bharathanatyam. (6)
Evangelists like Sadu Chellappa, focusing on urban India and the high echelons of society, are already on the job of Christianising festivals like Deepavali, as noted earlier. Sadhu Chellappaa waxes eloquent on YouTube on how “Hinduism came from Bible” (7)
Backed by the Church and funded by foreign sources, many Christian Organisations make well-planned short-duration documentaries after distorting Hindu scriptures to suit their convenience. For example, “Ashathoma Sath Kamaya” is a movie uploaded on YouTube in ten parts. It is produced by “Prarthanalaya Church.” Though this movie was initially rejected by the Censor Board, the said Church distributed it far and wide illegally as a documentary. Kamal Hasan’s elder brother Charu Hasan who allegedly converted to Christianity, plays the lead role in the movie. One can find several clippings in the same name “Asatoma Sadgamaya” in different languages, underlining the fact that evangelical outfits focus on all states across the country. (8)
Several such outfits indulge in distorting Hindu scriptures to suit the Biblical themes and upload clippings and documentaries on YouTube. They produce longer and shorter documentaries and sell and distribute DVD copies. Scores of Christian Evangelical TV channels operate across the country indulging in distortion and denigration of Hindu Dharma. These organizations rope in converted film actors, TV artists and other such celebrities to air “testimonials”, which are spread through YouTube and other social media.(9)
The Bible with an Indian Touch
While the evangelists masquerade as “Sadhus and Sanyasis”, and the organizations and ministries distort Hindu scriptures and produce documentaries, the Roman Catholic Church came out with a most outrageous ‘New Community Bible’ christened as the “Indian Bible,” which included sacred verses from the Ithihasas, Gita, Vedas and Upanishads.
This Hybrid Bible depicted Virgin Mary barefoot, wearing a sari and sporting a bindi on her forehead, a naked baby Jesus on one shoulder, standing beside Joseph clad in loincloth and turban. It was released in June 2008. The hybrid Bible was reportedly conceived in the 1980s. The Indian Catholic clergy deputed over 20 experts on Christianity and Indian Religions to devise a commentary that would help Indian converts – the end product was the so-called “Indian Bible”! The Catholic Bishops Conference of India approved it and Vatican blessed the initiative. (10)
Conclusion
Religious conversion has been a subject of dispute for ages and the Church has been well-known for conversion activities to spread Christianity throughout the world in its pursuit of souls for harvesting.It mostly follows the strategies of allurement and pressure to convert the people following other religions. However, the most potent weapon in its armoury has been inculturation. The Church uses the process of inculturation with an aim to adopt the well-established Hindu cultural practices to confuse, corrupt and change the minds of the gullible masses.
The Church has started setting up Hindu “type” of buildings and calling them as ‘Ashrams’ controlled by ‘Saffron robed’ Padres, projecting themselves as ‘Swamijis’. The Hindu style of architecture, construction, layout and interior designs are being followed. The buildings also have the Sanskrit ‘Ohm’ symbol in front of them and the saffronised Padres claim that Ohm is not Hindu, but Vedic!
Some Churches also sculpture the statues of Jesus in ‘meditating’ posture, Jesus sitting cross-legged on a lotus with ‘Abaya Hastha Mudra’, Jesus emerging after a purification bath in Ganges and they even claim that yoga and meditation are not connected to Hinduism and that they are universal, common to all religions.
Jesus is placed on par with Bhagwan Krishna (we have seen our own “Corporate Gurus” making such claims) and the Church has even gone to the extent of showcasing Jesus riding a chariot like Krishna.
The ‘Ashtothram’ and ‘Sahasra Naamam’ (108 and 1008 names) have also been prepared for performing ‘Archana’ on Jesus and ‘Aarti’ is also being performed.
In Tamil Nadu, Churches have started ‘Padayatras’ for Velankanni, sometimes even with the ‘Irumudi’ (similar to the one taken for Sabari Mala Yatras). The Velankanni pilgrims have started wearing saffron robes. Many Churches have started giving ‘Chakra Pongal’ (Sweet Rice) as ‘Prashadams’ to people. Apart from Velankanni in Nagapattinam, the Velankanni shrine in Besant Nagar, Chennai also follows these practices of inculturation.
Several Churches have started installing “Dwajasthambams” in the front yard, similar to Hindu Temples.
The seemingly deliberate setting up of ‘Mary shrines’ in street corners, next to ‘Vinayaga’ enclosures / small temples, is a concerted effort to replace ‘Goddess Maariamman’ from the scheme of things as they exist now. Evangelists have been seen brazenly telling the village people that Mary (Mother) and Mari (Amman) are one and the same. During festival times one can find digital banners in the Santhome area of Chennai City near Marina Beach, claiming Mary as ‘Thiru Mayilai Annai’ (Mother of Mylapore), while the true ‘Thiru Mayilai Annai’ is Goddess Karpagambaal of Kapaaleeshwarar Temple.
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The whole world knows that ‘Girivalam’ (Circumambulation of Hill Temples) is being performed at Thiruvannamalai every ‘Pournami’ (Full Moon Day). Now, the same practice has been started by Churches at many places after erecting a huge Cross and a Prayer House on various hillocks. A Church on the hillock at a place called Acharapakkam near Melmaruvaththur Adi Parashakthi Temple is a classic example for Chrsitian Girivalam. (11)
The Church has adopted every Hindu practice and the only thing left is the replacement of ‘Hindu Murthis’ with Jesus and Mary statues, which is most likely to happen anytime if this inculturation continues. Churches claim that this concept of inculturation has been aimed at bridging the divide between the Indian Cultural Experience and the Western Character of Christianity.
Every Hindu symbol and every Hindu practice is being Christianised with an evil motive of de-Hinduising this society and the nation. This is creating havoc in the psyche of the Hindu majority provoking it beyond the limits of tolerance. Obviously the generic Church is scoring brownie points over the privilege of “propagation” given to the minorities in the Constitution.
Nehru’s refusal to table the Niyogi Commission Report and the spinelessness of successive governments to enact laws banning conversions have resulted in huge territories of India getting Christianised rapidly. The North-east and Goa are lost totally; almost 50 per cent of Kerala is now Christian; Karnataka, Andhra and Tamil Nadu have become the focus areas of missionaries and rampant conversions are taking place even as we speak.
The only remedy lies in bringing a Constitutional Amendment. At present, the Constitution ensures Freedom to practice and propagate religion and certainly doesn’t grant the right to convert others. Article-2’, which ensures freedom of religion, is subject to public order, morality and health. But, the process of inculturation being practiced by the Church now violates all of these, and calls for a total ban on such attempts and a legislation of a central anti-conversion Law. Also, the Constitution must be amended, so as to remove the word ‘propagate’, which is deviously used by the Church. The minorities must be allowed only to practice their religion and not to preach or propagate.
To start with, the Centre must enact a blanket ban on inculturation with stringent punishments for violators. If at all the generic Church wants to sell Jesus in India, let them try to sell him with their own testaments. Let them not steal Hindu scriptures, symbols and rituals shamelessly.
(Concluded)
REFERENCES:
1. http://www.vijayvaani.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?aid=778
2. http://www.hindu.com/2008/01/30/stories/2008013060271000.htm and http://www.vijayvaani.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?aid=510 and http://www.vijayvaani.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?aid=516
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chennai_Sangamam and http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article1093094.ece
5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8AHoIKHGwM
6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHtdV75rkRM
7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syBSPQvIqYs
8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yXv2_0lAeQ
9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYhf-d1FZTY&spfreload=10
10. http://www.christianpost.com/news/new-indian-bible-draws-fire-over-hindu-references-33769/









India is a great country and I love my country for everything it has given me. No country is perfect and so is mine. But unlike many countries in the world atleast my country gives me the freedom to practice my faith and belief.
Writing an article of this length demands more in depth knowledge on the subject which it is dealing with rather than Whatsapp and Google Information else it ends up in cat fights. We all are responsible citizens and should refrain from what the British did to us and what our politicians are doing to us… DIVIDING (This article and not the Christians is doing the same)
Coming to Christians, your duty is to tell the people about the Good News what you have received and pray to Jesus and not blame others and paint the whole world as sinners. I have read the Bible and it says very clearly that ALL HAVE SINNED and fallen short of Glory. But Jesus Christ has laid down his life for our sins so that we can have a full life. All the sacrifices and Balis which we do is already taken care of by jesus. It is upto an individual to believe on this or stick to their ways of mukti from sin.
Anything which is not true cannot have an lasting impact. Hinduism is not weak that it needs people saviour for it to survive.
Let us make this world a better place to live. The only way is to love others as oneself. “If love is your weakness, then you are the strongest person in the world”
Take the same images and matter and propogate in christan and world over stating that Christ your lord has adopted Hinduism with the churches and fathers names on it who have created these images and matter as their endorsement. And that now all followers of Jesus must shun oblivion and come out of their depressive state and adopt hindiusm and live life of content and free of fear from their forced laws and dogma. What stops this to happen.
Hindu spiritual organisation like Ramakrishna Mission, Chinmaya Mission work selflessly carrying out Charitable activities helping all, irrespective of Caste/ Community/ Religion.
For eg, they provided Aid to the Muslims in J& K during the 2004 earthquake. Sent relief material to Haiti through Indian Air Force transport planes after the earthquake.
They propagate Unity of Religions, Harmony of Religions.
Are Hindus or other non- Christians lesser human beings? Why cannot help or aid be provided without any conversion to Christianity?
Why this Commercial Enterprise of Chain Marketing, Commissions etc.?
The West does not want an United, Strong India. They would prefer a Balkanized India, just like they broke up U.S.S.R into 14 nations.
China is already an economic and military threat to the hagemony of the West. Why would they want another power like India to rise in Asia and provide competition to their domination?
They know that it is only Hinduism with its vast diversity which unites India.
To destroy India, they have to destroy Hinduism first.
Carry out Mass Conversions, create Divides on the basis of Race/ Ethnic Groups/ Linguistic Groups,…. etc.
Stoke Separatist Movements on these lines.
Break up India into small, weak, manipulate able countries with corrupt Christian leadership.
This has been done effectively in Africa.
Civil War, Ethnic Clashes….Weak puppet Governments of the ex- Colonial powers.
Even Buddhist dominated Myanmar is suffering from Christian militancy in its Hilly/ Forested areas bordering India, with Christian converted tribes.
This is the place of origin of Drugs/ Arms, Ammunition.
These are Liberated Zones, controlled by the West. CIA lands weapons here.
This is neo- Colonialism of the West.
Deploying their Church MNCs to subjugate and control populations, territories to exploit the natural/ mineral resources, by getting contracts at cheap rates for Western MNCs.
They are doing this exploitation very effectively in Africa and Latin America.
Americans deploy their protestant Baptist Church and Pentecostal Church, with other allied small protestant Churches.
Britain deploys its protestant Presbyterian Church.
European Union deploy the Roman Catholic church to serve their geo- political, geo- strategic goals.
NE India is a prime example where numerous Church allied militant groups have created Liberated Zones, with a Parallel Govt in place. There are separatist movements for creation of around 14-15 small, weak, manipulate able Christian countries on the basis of Ethic Group/
Tribal identity.
The ultimate aim of mass conversions in Tamil Nadu is to create a Christian nation of Dravidanadu encompassing present day Tamil Nadu and Northern Tamil areas of Sri Lanka.
The Churches are deeply involved in the Naxalite/ Maoist violence also. Providing arms, ammunition, logistics, finance, guidance.
CIA is also deeply involved.
In NE India, the Christian separatist groups use N.A.T.O origin weapons ( M- 16 Rifles, Uzi Machine Guns, M- 209 Grenade Launcher… etc).
There are more than 100 such church militias operating there. Carrying out Extortion, Illegal Tax Collection, Kidnappins, Prevent execution of developmental projects. Prevent creation of jobs.
Then brainwash the populacein the Churches and schools that the lack of
jobs, development is due to the Colonial Indian govt.
Stoking separatist feelings.
Following Jesus is nothing about changing culture.
This guy hasn’t done much plumbing .Following Christ is NOT a religion… I am Hindu who tries to followChrist.
Poor people need food and shelter!
They don’t care about God and fraudulent religious activities. Thirsty and hungry people need food and water. Dalit Conversion to Christianity and rich Hindus immigration to Christian West is same. Hoping for a better life.
Anything wrong? Holy Hamburger Parivar sucks!
Ignorance begets ignorance
Dalit is a work choice from long ago, no significance today, todays caste is IT engineer, doctor and pharmacists. Christian fundamentalist divide and conquer strategy, using Dalit Brahmin names to Divide India doesnt work anymore because internet exposes the christian fundamentalist.
The holy land israel prohibits beef, porn watching trump supporters are racists
you upper class people discriminated the lower ones for hundreds of years, it’s only because of Christians these people are becoming engineers, doctotors etc.. you guys divided people into classes to begin with, you have the nerve to point finger. you are the pheresees of the Bible. shame on you . I am not totally supporting Christians either.. many of them haven’t done the plumbing in the Bible
Im a Harijan, my wife is a brahmin, no1 care about caste nowadays, the problem isnt caste, its people like u who are taught to use the word caste to divide hindus. Ur equivalent to a black slave of christian white. Shivaji Mahajraj was a Harijan like me. Nobody becomes doctor by changing their religion, corruption is stopping govt aids reaching the poor, ofcourse its the govts fault, they dont use enough iron hand on corruption, otherwise a violent religion that killed billions in history wont be fooling the poor in india with false stories.
you are not a harijan ..just faking to prove .. Go to Dalit people and see their plight. Get real. BG itself classified people into 4 divisions .. we want a god tell us ?
Grape is sour when I speak truth, Dont teach me about my own people, I know how many Harijans were killed by christian fundamentalist in manipur, assam from 1960-90. Bible divides humanity into swines and 30000 denominations, I dont believe in divisions.
so called Holy land prohibits pork not beef. Hindus are the most racist people watching porn behind the scene.
the bible prohibits pork, israel prohibits cow slaughter, christians are most lying two faced hypocrits on the planet, all porn stars are christian
Israel serve the best?! Shalom
“Discernment is not a matter of simply telling the difference between right and wrong;rather it is telling it is the difference between right and almost Right.”
Charles Spurgeon
Israel banned hitlers jew killers!
In the jungle the left is right, and right is wrong, byzantines entered jerusalem and killed 10,000 innocent jewish women and children, in the jungle, right is always wrong.
You are a super Idiot to propagate these lies..
My Dear❤ Garuda ji, When U love some UnTruth/ADharma & hang on 2 it, Truth/Dharma may seem like “lies” 2U. SanathanDharma> http://biblehub.com/romans/1-25.htm
Stop sending our kids to Christian Schools and Colleges. It only needs one generation to take a stand. All Christian schools are brain washing our kids. Also all tuition goes to nefarious activities. Suffocate their all funds… Publicize their nefarious act (like this excellent article)… Use What’s App and other social Media to educate Hindus not to fall prey of these vultures.. They have destroyed many Ancient Civilization. Now Aiming at destroying Sanatana Dharma. Wake up Hindus..
Stop using English and white man Internet!
Stop using indias website, and get lost from india
You want to turn India into deeper casteful society?
Ofcourse not, thats why missionary divide and rule ngos got banned,
India is loaded with caste problems, it is there in religion and in politics . no secret .. Accept the problem.
I don’t belong to any religion which breeds poison.
America built by black slaves , britian built on looted wealth of slaves, I have no respect for religion that creates slavery, Hitler himself was christian, killed 6 million jews, what a sick religion.
you with casteful society have caused divisions. Almost every upper class kid goes to christian preschools with pride. I am Hindu not a Christian
India should follow a system a positive discrimination for Hindus, as Sri Lanka did for Sinhalese Buddhists. All set asides should be 90% Hindus, then broken up on the basis of lowest caste to highest. This 90% quota should be applicable in all government fields. Second, India should follow Israel’s land use policy, with alterations for commercial interests. Finally, Indians should study how Westerners destroyed the Native Americans and apply the lesson within their countries. (boarding schools, ghettoezation, etc.) . Indians and Hindus have their country are they willing to fight for it. Muslims practice population jihad, the Europeans will act before India, but remember whatever they do, we should do and say we just copied. Burqa ban, forced shaking of women’s hands, swimming in coed pools. Finally, we should list and declare a subset of cities, religious cities, and ban foreign houses of worship from them. (Think semi-vaticanization of a series of city-states.)
This is why Hinduism is the basis of India. Nothing else unites the country across all states. However, since Congress took an anti-Hindu turn in the seventies, joining the communists, the elite’s have become power mad anti-nationalists myopically willing to trade the country’s well-being for a little bit more personal money and power. Hindu tradition and the Hindu religion are the basis of the Indian nation. Just as America once had tribal areas they conquered when building their state, same as Russia, India has non-Hindu territory to reclaim in Kashmir and the NE. We should stop listening to Westerners hypocritically speak about rights, and examine the actual actions, mainly genocide, they took to build their nations.
This is the real “Saffron Terrorism” that the media refers to. Christian Terrorist in Saffron Attire. This is called as Cultural Terrorism & Prostitution of Religion in the name of Preaching. Plagiarism (cheating / illegal use) with criminal intention! Copy Cats. Using Hinduism to destroy Hinduism & To Sell Christianity.. Missionaries Have Accepted Their Failure In India So Now Shamelessly Converting Christ To A Hindu God????……. All converted should come back.. They are following the same God.. Jesus converted to Hinduism ???????? Finally….JESUS ACCEPTED HINDUISM ???? This is a scary trend! They go to any heights to convert! If they are so fond of Hindu traditions they should start worshiping Real Hindu Gods. Hold the Trishool instead of the Cross! …
4-A-Green card
Caste Hindus will prostrate infront of a rugged Cross! Muslims are strong in Islam and ready to die.
Jesus died for me,so I don’t need to hate none or kill innocent people.
Jesus ❤️ you all,do do I!
Happy Sabbath Shalom!
Says the donald trump supporting christian fanatic,
read the holy Quran, jesus was a muslim, he worshipped Allah, god cant have son, according to bible, yet u teach theres son of god,
Get an education, grow up, Jai Shri Ram
Following Jesus is nothing about changing culture . It is NOT a religion.
First of all u and it Jesus is a big fool u speak about hindusim. Leave hindus no God can be so cruel that hr will send a person toh hell if he doesn’t believe in him. God is pure and u bastard ur religion started some 5000 years ago and saying that om is christain word. U swine om Vedas all are hindus thing. How can a person die 5000 years ago for the sin of the current population all bullshit
Really? So the solution is to remove the individual’s freedom of choosing his/her own faith by banning the freedom to convert? How does this contribute to the betterment of society?
If you think these missionaries are evil for their strategy of propagating Christianity, how is banning freedom of religion a holy act towards the people? It is suppression of freedom. That’s evil too!
If there is Truth in your belief system, you have nothing to worry about because Truth is holy and people will see the light eventually.
As a kid I didn’t understand the magnitude of the cancer…and used to curse the killers of Graham Staines…now i can understand the psyche of the people.
How much were you paid to utter this pathetic retarted lie, Arthur Jacob? Have some shame! For a few pieces of silver you have sold your heritage? They consider you garbage, and you prove them right, with this boot licking of their moneybags.
My?dear❤ Romi Abhimanyu ji, I’m one of the Bhagvan ji’s sons, why should I “get paid”? I have access to all Bhagvan ji’s resources as needed.
My “Bank/Source” is Bhagvan Himself! He has infinite resources and can NEVER be emptied! See >> https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+4%3A19&version=VOICE
Also, when U love some UnTruth/ADharma & hang on 2 it, Truth/Dharma may seem like “lies” 2 U. Bhagvan 2 U “They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.” ” उन्होंने झूठ के साथ परमेश्वर के सत्य का सौदा किया और वे सृष्टि के बनाने वाले को छोड़ कर उसकी बनायी सृष्टि की उपासना सेवा करने लगे। परमेश्वर धन्य है। आमीन।” >> https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A25&version=VOICE;NIV;ERV-HI
The suggestions for amending Constitution is only a day dream. Which party will bell the cat? What about the
Supreme Court and its “Basic Structure can’t be altered” judgement? The only way left to us is to use all Hindu forums — Temples, matts, cultural organizations, missions (like RK Mission, Chinmaya Mission etc),all mass gatherings during festivals like Kumbha Mela, Pushkar and all local festivals at city/town/village levels and use audio-visual and reading material to give wide publicity and counter the propoganda. The Govt should also use the FEMA and other law at their disposal to throttle the fund flow to missionaries; simultaneously Hindu organizations must focus on reaching out to those underprivileged and targeted communities and strengthen their ties with Hinduism and also attend to their socio-economic and educational needs.It will be silly to expect the Govt to come to the rescue of Hindus, all political parties, including BJP depend on votes to come to power and then they have to swear by the Constitution; they have to face the media, the so called secular brigade (SLOBs).At the same time start Hindu evangelization in West!! Hence the Hindu society has to wake up and act if they want to survive the’ non-voilent silent’ but most powerful attack on Hinduism and Hindu culture
Following Jesus is nothing about changing culture . It is NOT a religion…..
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The immorality and complete naked absence of morality of the moral-less section of Indian culture:
http://boingboing.net/2015/12/18/indias-deadly-exam-rigging-s.html
Let me be honest here, the only people who followed/converted to Christianity in Asia were the oppressed ones under a Feudalism society. They had their backs against a wall, then the foreign Priests came to their rescue, so to pay respect, they followed Christianity. Overtime, it became their value, just like the Hindus or Buddhists who had followed their religions for more than 4,000 years. So stop trying to convert people. Let people be people. If anything, have your leaders in your religion sit down and come up with an idea so that the we can all live in harmony. Now that’d be energy well spent.
Whatever you write here. True Christians know whom to follow, their whole heart is concentrated in knowing the Truth of being with God and obeying His Commands. The Truly converted Christians reflect Jesus Christ in their every day lives, being Holy, Truthful, Faithful and keep on doing good no matter what people say or do against them and bring people into the Light of Living a life of Obedience to God.
Sitting outside the Christian Community you people can write anything you wish or understand. But the complete truth about God is only found in Christianity with true meanings.
Changing the minds of the gullible is not our focus, we need people to find the life of God as we found, the life of freedom to live righteous and to be free from the power of Sin which leads to destruction and hell. We need people’s soul to go to their creator God who loves them so much.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_India_(book)
ROFLMAO
A couple more recently released books you’ll want to read: on clergy across all denominations leaving christianity
1. “Caught in the Pulpit: Leaving Belief Behind” (expanded and updated version released May 2015) by Daniel C. Dennett and Linda LaScola, where:
“Daniel C. Dennett and Linda LaScola comprehensively and sensitively expose an inconvenient truth that religious institutions face…the phenomenon of clergy who no longer believe what they publicly preach. In confidential interviews, clergy from across the ministerial spectrum—from liberal to literal—reveal how their lives of religious service and study have led them to a truth inimical to their professed beliefs and profession. Although their personal stories are as varied as the denominations they once represented, or continue to represent—whether Catholic, Baptist, Episcopalian, Methodist, Mormon, Pentecostal, or any of numerous others—they give voice not only to their own struggles but also to those who similarly suffer in tender and lonely silence.”
2. “From Apostle to Apostate: The Story of the Clergy Project” by Catherine Dunphy, released July 2015:
“‘From Apostle to Apostate’ offers a comprehensive introduction to the Clergy Project, established in 2011 to provide a safe space where clergy who have lost their faith can connect with others facing the exact same questions—often alone and in isolation.”
The ex-christian author started off as a “devout Catholic seminarian” with a “Jesuit education”, then became “founding member and former executive director of the Clergy Project”.
As one American ex-christian explains, only losers in the 3rd world (colonised minds, in other words) would still fall for christianity:
“all those poor Third Worlders were falling for it [jesus/christianity] because they have even less formal education than Bible Belt trailer trash!”
So don’t be an Indian christian=cretin: a 3rd world mentality considered more mentally regressive by the west than their own “bible belt trailer trash” and who gets mocked behind your back for being so simple-minded and gullible as to still fall for the jesus con. Do what your counterparts in the 1st world are doing: quit christianity too. Perhaps the very missionaries who converted you or your community have already quit it by now. And if they haven’t done so already, they will in time. So many do (example). Therefore, don’t be outdone by western preachers who’ve themselves turned ex-christians. Beat them to ex-christianity if you can, showing you can be less taken in by cons than they can.
Many Americans’ testimonials for leaving christianity are collected at ex-christian net.
Occasionally some Indian ex-christians leave their testimony of apostasy from christianity on that site too. You could be one of them! After all, JesusNeverExisted com, so you’ve clearly been conned by and into christianity. Therefore, join the mass exodus out of christianity! (“Christians are leaving the faith in droves and the trend isn’t slowing down”, Business Insider, Apr 2015)
Here’s a list of books on Leaving Christianity compiled by American ex-christians that will further help you on your journey out of christianity.
Also read ex-preacher Dan Barker’s books like “Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist” and “Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America’s Leading Atheists”. They will help you. As will “Why I Believed: Reflections of a Former Missionary” (2009) by Kenneth W. Daniels.
If you need help to quit evangelical/fundy christianity first, before you feel you’re up to kicking your jesus habit entirely, then start with a book like “Leaving The Fold: Testimonies Of Former Fundamentalists” by Edward T. Babinski.
It’s alright, you don’t need to thank me for saving you from the jesus cult (also known as christianity).
Just don’t forget to recommend all these links and books to your fellow sheeples too. They have a right to know as well, don’t you think?
TRUTH never fails, in the same way JESUS never fails.
JesusNeverExisted.com So “jesus christ” of the gospels, that is jesus of christianity, failed from the get-go.
It’s why everyone else (as seen in the books and direct quotes mentioned in my surrounding comments here) has been arguing that only the badly educated “trailer trash” and the “3rd world” minded losers — e.g. you — still fall for the jesus con. No one else.
So being a jesus junkie/christian, you’re by definition of the class of mentally regressive dimwits who can even fall for the jesus con, that more sensible or intelligent people simply don’t fall for.
Your claim that “jesus never fails” is clearly disproven in the very comments here where I refer to books of western ex-christians and the news of the mass exodus from christianity. When you responded to my very comment enumerating such instances of mass apostasy from christianity, why do you — in typical christian fashion — still lie so abominably by attempting to claim otherwise? Why are you christians such shameless compulsive liars? Enough already with your incessant lies, you christians.
By the way, why don’t you christians aka parasites stop parasiting on Hindu religious-culture including words and names.
Since it’s well known, I won’t bother quoting from the christian authorities. But you being a christian ought to know that, from the early “Church Father” John Chrysostom, to the Catholic and Orthodox churches, to Protestant churches (like the Calvinistic denominations) — and recently reiterated by the Catholic church once more — only christian names are allowed for christians. Why can’t you third world sheep properly follow the rules of the fraudulent religion you so recently bought into? Why do all you christian mental midgets even suck at this? Admittedly, the catholic church allows some Roman names because they were poached by christianity early on, but that’s it. No Hindu or other heathen words and names are allowed. The only christians who use them anyway do so expressly for crypto-christian purposes, i.e. as a deliberate act of war against the host nation that christianity is parasiting on. (Comparable to the way muslims often engage in love jihad by feigning to be Hindu men to their female Hindu victims. An equally blatant act of war.)
If you want to prove you’re not openly an enemy of the Hindu nation, stop poaching on native names. Keep biblical names, from the NT or OT alone — though only if Jews don’t object about the latter, since you christians started by parasiting on the Judaic religion and its words and names. (Did christianity ever create anything worthwhile? Or did it only ever parasite on other religions?)
At least we keep original names, but you keep only fake names, that means like you people started spoiling the Hindu Religious. Please go and search yourself all discoveries and inventions are through JESUS only. This one evidence is enough for the Christianity. Today Internet who discovered? You have no jobs always kidding others is your job. Christianity is Dominant worldwide. Whatever blender you do to me or to others, I pray to JESUS to forgive your frauds and he will make you to live as a humab beings. AMEN.
Your christian lie: 1. “Please go and search yourself all discoveries and inventions are through JESUS only”
That’s just more of your compulsive christian lying. The facts are the very opposite. It’s clear you know nothing about history.
Original christian thought was to banish mathematics and all pursuit of knowledge for being pagan and as the work of the “devil” (that other christian fiction): early christians therefore persecuted Greek mathematicians and philosophers to their deaths, on the christian grounds that “mathematics was satanism”. That’s what your evil jesus fiction invented: a hatred for knowledge and a love for ignorance. Yet now christians — like you — suddenly pretend the very opposite, just so you can steal non-christian fields and accomplishments, to peddle them as a supposed christian gift to the world.
Some famous quotes on christianity vis-a-vis mathematics/science and knowledge:
This is why your evil christian forebears brutally bludgeoned to death the beautiful pagan mathematician and philosopher Hypatia and it’s why christianity/jesusism caused christians to burn down all the libraries of antiquity except the last one (which your twin-brothers in monotheism, the muslims, burnt down). It’s why, when your christians invaded the Americas, they once again infamously burnt down all the Mayan libraries they found there too, for the same reason: because all libraries were pagan.
All knowledge, maths and other science is in spite of christianity (AKA the jesus fraud), never because of it.
And here is none other than the famous historian and ex-christian classicist, ex-Franciscan monk Joseph McCabe. He tells us more about the real christian record for destruction of all knowledge: christianity didn’t just burn down libraries, but it closed the pre-christian Roman system of universal schooling in order to turn bright populations into populations of mental regressives who will depend on blind faith/belief (that’s why christianity only succeeds in recruiting the likes of you). Christianity deliberately brought on the aptly named Dark Ages.
Even today, most scientists and mathematicians of repute are still non-christians. Next you’ll be claiming that people like e.g. Alan Turing — a very key player in the history of the computer and computing, who was an atheist and who was persecuted for homosexuality — was magically a christian and is suddenly proof of your jesus fiction (but jesusneverexisted.com).
Your christian lie: 2. “At least we keep original names”
No, the names you keep are stolen from the non-christian native religions. Not to mention how your own religion specifically bans you from keeping non-christian (non-biblical) names, as I already explained, e.g.
Not just in catholicism and greek orthodoxy, but protestantism too, e.g. Calvinism stipulates the same: “The naming of children was under strict church control. Only Biblical names were allowed.”
It is still enforced, e.g. a recent pope echoed it again in 2011:
which is why:
This further proves that you devious christian parasites infesting India only use non-christian native names for evil cryptochristian purposes such as for false flag operations. Very similar to how you christian parasites in India encroach on other deeply Hindu religious expressions such as Hindu clothing and markings, Hindu arts and knowledge, Hindu architectural designs, even Hindu religious practices and philosophical ideas and Hindu mantras & verses. The impersonation is very bad, and it’s even more laughable since christianity itself strictly bans such matters for all true christians, knowing all this to be expressly un-christian, heathen things, and privately still regarding them as “satanism”.
Christianity has stolen everything and invented nothing except genocide: the first concentration camps were invented by christianity, to genocide the Greek and Roman heathens (known as Gentiles, before christians stole that word) who refused to accept the jesus fiction.
In the year 359 CE
Your christian lie: 3. “but you keep only fake names”
Again with your typically christian compulsive lying.
Only christians who steal non-christian names — like you — keep fake names. And you cryptochristians all do so for purposes of deliberate deception (cryptochristianism) including parasitic impersonation/attempted identity theft (inculturation).
I have no fake names, you christian liar and thief. Like everyone else with common sense, I merely have usernames AKA user handles for online use. They’re not meant to be real names, and this is very obvious and hence non-deceptive: on the internet, it is the norm for people to not use their real names (unless they’re 3rd world christian dimwits like you, who steal and abuse non-christian names).
Your christian lie: 4. “Christianity is Dominant worldwide.”
Not for long, it’s already on the decline in the only place it matters: in countries with power that could have misused their power for pushing christianity. Christianity in countries impoverished by colonialism AKA christianism merely turns nations that once had potential into perennial third world hell-holes (see for example Philippines). Such countries will never have any power and so, in the worst case scenario of christian missionaries trading non-western countries to replace the loss of western ones, christianity will only be a religious epidemic in powerless poor countries in the future. The way islam is only an epidemic in either third world hell-holes or in barbaric medieval “rich” countries like Arabia, reliant on oil, or like UAE, reliant on others’ wealth and skills.
Christianity’s dominance was acquired only through its evil programme of genocide and replacement breeding. And even that bloody “victory” is coming to an end: as I already mentioned, even western news admits there’s a mass exodus out of christianity: “Christians are leaving the faith in droves and the trend isn’t slowing down”, Business Insider, Apr 2015. What part of that did you miss? The only instances that christianity is still making some temporary numerical gains is exclusively among illiterate or incorrigibly stupid people (like you), in nations deliberately made poor by christianity so that missionaries can still have somewhere to sell the jesus fraud, since the west is slowly growing immune to it. And there are already clear signs that when an impoverished nation slowly becomes more prosperous again, despite internal christian infestation trying to ride the prosperity wave, the christianised among the population quickly starts church-hopping and eventually turns atheist. (This can be seen in recently-converted east Asian people who have already started leaving christianity within decades of their families’ conversion.)
Your assertion is further pointless, as numbers don’t make christianity any less false. Invoking currently numerical majority as a sign of veracity/superiority is a common logical fallacy that christians and their twins the muslims both indulge in. An example of the uselessness of numbers: when dominated by christianity, all of Europe insistently believed the earth was flat. Likewise, even if the entire world became christian tomorrow, it won’t change that jesus never existed and is no more than an artifice for aggression/genocide, and won’t change that christianity is an evil fabrication based on this evil fiction.
Another example of your christian lying: 5. “You have no jobs always kidding others is your job.”
You’re the only one between us who’s without a job. Note that missionary activity, including lying for christ, is NOT a real let alone productive job, nor is trolling non-christian websites. Just like bible studies are not any form of actual education, being nothing more than self-delusion and brainwashing.
Finally: 6. I’ve shown you to be a mentally regressive basket case, which is the only kind that missionaries ever succeeded with, as attested by the learned ancient Greek and Roman philosophers, who noted that only ignorant and stupid people ever converted to christianity. Understandable, since only stupid people ever fall for the jesus con. And only the stupidest people ever would still continue to fall for a con that has been exposed as a fraud since its very inception in the first centuries CE: the ancient Graeco-Romans already exposed jesus as a fiction and christianity as an evil lie, e.g. see the surviving remnants of “Contra Galilaeos” by the learned Roman Emperor Julian.
Notice how like typical christians throughout time, all missionaries sill seek out ignorant and dimwitted people like you, who have not an iota of common sense or the ability to learn or to separate fact from fiction. That’s because you’re the only kind of people that missionaries could ever sell the jesus fraud to, since such obvious cons don’t work on normal people like me, i.e. people with a decent amount of common sense.
Since you’re a typical third world minded loser — the kind known to still fall for the jesus fraud — I suggest you don’t yap back to me on any topic, including the facts of christianity (and history), both of which I know far more about than you ever will. Just remain silent hereafter: You’re just embarrassing and exposing the fraud that is your ‘religion’ further with your pathetic attempts here.
The reason why you — like all christians — are a compulsive liar, is because christianity, as the ancient Graeco-Romans had long ago exposed, is based on a lie: jesus.
For example, here follows some famous extracts from Roman writings showing that christians never had proof for jesus being historical; not even in the 4th century. The extracts are from the Contra Galilaeos (“Against the Christians”), written by the learned 4th century Roman Emperor Julian, who was further an ex-christian, a bible-expert and christianity-expert:
Emperor Julian also famously challenged christians to finally come up with proof of jesus ever having existed (over 1.5 millennia onwards and there still isn’t any proof, obviously not counting forged “evidenced”):
Stop being a typical christian AKA terrorist: stop trolling on sites that don’t concern you, such as Indian nationalist sites like this one. Just like no one wants muslims AKA terrorists in America, Europe, Australia and the rest of the non-muslim world, no one wants christians AKA terrorists in the rest of the free (i.e. non-monotheist) world. Go back to the christian-islamic middle-east, where your evil vile religion came from. There should be a world-wide universal ban on dangerous ideologies like christianity’s offspring nazism and communism and especially the missionary monotheisms of christianity and islam themselves, not just a hypocritical selective American ban on islam (christianity’s twin).
So you’re a polytheist? You’re specifically teaching christians to call out (albeit with mangled pronunciation) the personal names of multiple Hindu Gods. Only the Hindu Gods will ever answer.
The bible does not know these names and they are certainly not the names of the Yahweh character of the bible. Not to mention the little fact that JesusNeverExisted.com
Also, wow do you christians suck at sanskrit. Not just the pronunciation, as is apparent from the typically christian mutilation of Sanskrit above, but also the meanings don’t follow, further demonstrating how you’re cretins (the word “cretin”, being derived from “christian”, in all ways means christian). So the horrible farce you’ve created above is like you’re mocking your own religion and mono-god. By turning christianity into such an obvious plagiarist sham (not to mention a laughably bad plagiarism) that even the sheep keep waking up, it’s no wonder that “Christians are leaving the faith in droves and the trend isn’t slowing down”, Business Insider, Apr 2015. Isn’t it time you joined them?
Just two points……
1.The cartoon character called Jesus never existed……..https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/12/18/did-historical-jesus-exist-the-traditional-evidence-doesnt-hold-up/
2. The Christian church is a criminal organization…………worse than the Italian mafia ……………..http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Bankers-History-Money-Vatican/dp/1416576576
My dear Subhangi Raykar bhaiji. The Kingdom of God is full of people who have taken up cudgels, sword and phirangi to mock God and His Son and then eventually fell back and fell into the Kingdom of God and bowed their heads and cast their crowns at the Feet of the Creator. Who can stand against God our Creator and yet hope to live?! Wouldn’t that be sheer absurdity. If you hit hard against the goads you will injure yourself. So my friend, I hope that your eyes would be opened wide. We are Indian Christians, children of the soil and born the second time into the Kingdom of God – the twice born remember. So my friend as the Lord has said, “Unless a man is born a second time, he shall not enter the Kingdom of God. Unless the man is born of water and Spirit, he shall not enter the Kingdom of God.”
I love your sincerity now you have displayed…..You have considered and accepted yourself as a sinner which is reality and You have to take decision where to move for freedom from this bondage…..Ganges dip or Guru Ashram or Vaishnuvidevi or good works…..none will force you and take you with fraud….you may go to Saviour ot Destroyer…….it is now your decision and you are the master of your choice
Dear Ajan…… Who is Shiva? god or evolutionist…..What is Gita? Evolution theory or what else such as mythology?……
What makes you think that only because of foreign funds these missionaries are surviving ? I personally have attended sessions by Pastor Sadhu Chellapa (some 10 yrs ago) and all were for welfare of misguided people. I am not from so called poor/low caste(my foot)/any village. I an engineer and now in US. I am not trying to say that I am so and so. What I am saying is that you are wrong that missionaries are after poor ppl. All they want to give a chance to people to know Jesus. I had all my studies in pure Hindu mission schools and I can surely say that I have some decent knowledge on teachings of Hinduism as well. Pongal is Tamil’s/Farmer’s festival and unites people across communities. What makes you think it should be held in a specific way only ?
Even Diwali is celebrated for many reasons for many communities, some for Ram’s return, some for Krishna’s demolition of demon, in W.Bengal something with Kalidevi and Sikhs in similar way. You cannot say that you have celebrate only for this reason in a particular manner.
I still believe all humans should have started with single natural religion … Have you heard of Pasupathi in Harrapan Culture ? That was atleast 7000 BC and Pasupathi is the root deity for all of India and I will not tag him just for Hindus. Pasupathi is primitive form of Shiva and possibly many
other religions too ?! All other Vishnu/Indra based stories were developed later. Even now Ayyangars turn to their back when they are in Shiva/Ganapathi/Murugan temples and worship only Vishnu’s form of deities. Does that mean Ayyangars follow different religion altogether ? No. Ultimately all religions are from same source and that’s what Pastor Sadhu Chellapa was trying convey thro old Vedas which were written in 2000-3000 BC.
Similarly in both Christianity and Islam Old testament (2500-5000 BC) is the same and talks about earlier God (Yehova) and his characteristics which I see closely resembles Shiva. The way of worshipping is also similar. What I am conveying here, for human race more or less all the religions must
have originated from same source and in due course of time all were getting diverged to many many ways and names (just like Hinduism). So don’t paint Christianity is altogether alien to India or Hinduism. You are willing to believe Buddhism/Sikhism originated from Hinduism showing some proof and why not same to be applied to Christianity?
Biggest joke you said was that DMK is supporting Christianity !! I feel pity for you … I am sure DMK (DK) parties were against Forward Castes
and you are one among FC/Brahmins and that’s why you are dead against DMK and spreading false news. Brahmins majority states are perennially rotten-ing – Check with Stats (UP, Uttrakhand , HP).
Will provide a handful of applause if you have posted the whole comment in the blog !!
Inculturation is a criminal THEFT of religious articles and practices for religious conversion. It should be labelled a RELIGIOUS THEFT when its sources are not acknowledged and permission was not obtained from the sampradaya holders of those religious objects. It is the same as stealing from temples. This theft should be prosecutable by law. Organizations that organize this theivary should be brought to court or their religiously criminal activities should be banned for violating religious freedom/safety and bank accounts frozen to discourage the above activities.
Inculturation should be rebranded as RELIGIOUS THEFT and prosecuted by hindu groups like rss and the government of india under the religious freedom provision. When accused they are likely to ask for proof of ownership and our shastras can be given as proof. Inculturation and criminal THEFT should be by-words for each other, for that is exactly what it is.
No. Christianity does not promise moksha, which is liberation from the cycle of death and rebirth. Christianity promises a material Heaven where the evil can enjoy eternal bliss if they only accept Jesus, while threatening the good with eternal damnation if they don’t. It disgusts me that you are actually lying about what Christianity teaches. I was a Christian for many years and I have a pretty good handle on Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Protestant theology, and none of these Christian sects teach moksha. They teach a materialistic Heaven with streets of gold and endless feasts and banquets for believers, and eternal torture in real fire for non-believers.
Loretto Taylor what were you in your last birth cycle? Do you know the pet and ant staying near and around who they are? What were they in their last cycle? Please do something to release them from the cycle.
Well, my pets are already enlightened. The ants are going to have to be responsible for realeasing themselves. Not really sure what I was last trip, except possibly Bengali or Tamil…
If you are not confirmed I do not want to tell you anything but I can tell you this just a blind faith….you do not know about your pets who are they…..you do not know who are the ants staying with you…..but you believe recycle……..the faith in cycle of death and rebirth is your way of living without any assurance or hope…..this recycle is never ending process…..take care of the pets and ants thinking they are the ancestors…..
First you are quite right that Moksha is not taught by the Holy Scriptures. Moksha is taught in Buddhism and Jainism which had been later incorporated into modern day Hinduism by the gurus and swamis who brought Hinduism to the West.
According to the Holy Scriptures, God created Man in His own image, unique and special. The Scriptures also tell us that even the very number of hair is counted and known to God, that means God knows each and every individual on the planet inside out. That implies that each individual is special to God, even priceless. So once born on the planet you have that unique identity, that no one else can take. God put the evidence of it even on our fingers. Our thumbprints are unique! Weyhey!
And by the way where in the Holy Scriptures is that written that Heaven is made of materials?
Messiah Yeshua said, “God is Spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth.” Spirit exists outside time and matter. So it is not true what you have stated regarding Heaven according to Christianity.
But what is offered in Christianity is NIRVANA. You attain ONENESS with GOD through His Son. “God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but shall have eternal life”. What is meant by Eternal Life? Eternal Life is a Life without Death ie your sould shall continue to live forever. Where does it live? Live in the Presence of God. What is the Presence of God? Presence of God is God’s Holy Spirit. That Life in the Presence of God is PERFECT BLISS that the Human Soul has been longing forever from within every human being irrespective of nation, ethnicity, tribe, tongue etc. That is Nirvana and that is offered by God Himself based not on the merit of your works: of how many japas you did, or how many coconuts you cracked, how many idol temples you visited etc.
And which “god” would a Christian be living in the presence of? The one who drowned every living being on earth, including infants, except for one family? The one who commanded genocides? The one who blesses people for dashing their infants’ enemies against the rocks? The one who demanded the slaughter of an innocent to atone for the sins of the guilty? You’re right, no good works required. You can lie, cheat, even be a serial killer and go to Heaven if you believe in Jesus. But you can spend your life feeding the hungry, caring for the sick and rescuing stray animals on weekends but if you’re not a Christian, it’s eternal torture for you. Christianity in no way promises oneness with God- you’re thinking of Hinduism. Even in Heaven, you’re a subordinate, seperate creature, and your sole puropse is to praise and feed the ego of the Asura that runs the place.
First, I have already shown you very clearly there is NO NEED FOR MOKSHA ACCORDING TO THE HOLY SCRIPTURES. Second I showed you how one attains Nirvana according to the Holy Scriptures. You then claim that the Holy Scriptures do
not promise Nirvana or ONE-NESS with God. Here we will show you very clearly that the Holy Scriptures teach ONE-NESS with God.
Of course Christianity promises ONE-NESS with God.
Christ Himself said, “If you abide in Me and I in you then you will become much
fruitful.” John 15. To abide is to remain. Here Christ is saying that if a twice-born born the second time by Spirit and water, that person if he or she continues to remain in Him, Christ would also remain in that person. With Christ in one’s life and spirit that person can achieve all that God has purposed for him or her and so become fruitful.
The Lord also said “I AM the vine you are the branches”. In other words He said that He is the tree and they that love Him become the branches of that tree. That is the promise of One-ness with God. The branch receives its sap, its life from the tree. The tree is the provider of life for the branches. IF the branch is cut off from the tree, it dries up and withers. God
is the Author of Life. If you abide in God you will receive life from Him.
On another occasion, the Lord said, “Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.” Revelation 3.
He is offering communion with Him eternally. He is already at the door calling and knocking on people’s hearts. But they
that hear His voice and recognise Him and open the door and invite Him in, they will receive that eternal One-ness with the Creator, because He will come in and dwell in the heart of that person. “Heart” is the centre of a person. God would
enter that heart and thereby giving eternal union for that person.
The Lord also showed in another place through His prayer the completeness, Nirvana achieved through One-ness with God in this verse, ” The glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have
loved them as You have loved Me.”
Here the Lord is addressing the Father and He is speaking about those that believe and trust in Him. Christ is in perfect union
with the Father. God is Spirit. The Spirit of Christ is in PERFECT UNION WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE FATHER. This Spirit is the Spirit of God. Now in the aforementioned verse, Christ is saying that believers would become one with Him in Spirit and achieve perfect unity just as the Father and the Son are in perfect unity.
There is yet another verse that is quite sublime in what Christ has said and promised, but that is for the more mature.
This is in response to your comment: “Christianity in no way promises oneness with God- you’re thinking of Hinduism”.
I don’t need you to explain Christian theology to me. I’ve been a Christian of both Catholic and Protestant varieties, I’ve read the Bible four times, I have a pretty good handle on what Christianity teaches. Which is why I am now a Hindu. The Holy Scriptures do, in fact, teach moksha, and show the way to attain it. The Bible, on the other hand, teaches that humans are dirty sinners deserving only of eternal damnation, and the only way out is to have your negative karma transferred to an innocent. How profoundly immoral. And no, Christianity DOES NOT promise oneness with God. It promises eternity in his presence. In a materialistic Heaven. Streets paved with gold, gates made of precious stones, fancy mansions for believers. For unbelievers, hell awaits. Being a good or bad person doesn’t matter. Being kind and charitable doesn’t matter. You can be a serial killer who rapes your victims’ dead bodies and as long as you say the Sinner’s Prayer before they strap you in the electric chair, it’s eternal bliss.Kind and charitable but don’t believe in Jesus, you get eternal torment. The Christian “God” is nothing more than an egotisitcal, bloodthirsty Asura who will be destroyed at the end of the Kali Yuga.
Moksha is taught by the Holy Scriptures. Just not by Christianity.
The Hinduism has Moksha. the Buddhists have Nirvana It is not later accepted by the Sanatan Dharmis-i.e.Hindus. Geeta tells you about it. Swarga is a temporary abode in Hinduism for those who seek it but they have to come back to earth again on this Earth. Hell is also not eternal. You pay for your sins and go back to the earth . The eternal cycle of birth and death is the one from which Moksh- liberation gives freedom and this is a self search and is to be attained by a spiritual path – in the country of mind.
Ahem. Ex-Christian, converted to Hinduism, weighing in. Arthur Jacom Vullamparthi, you are LYING about the single most basic doctrine of Christianity, which is Original Sin. Christianity teaches that we ARE born sinners, and that we inherited that sin from Adam and Eve. Augustine went so far as to teach that babies are born GUILTY of Original Sin (the Eastern Orthodox churches are more, erm, dharmic, saying that Original Sin simply introduced a flaw into human nature that inclines us toward actual sin). And frankly, the idea that Jesus paid for our sins so we don’t have to is morally repugnant. All you have to do is say a prayer or get some water poured on your head and all of your evil karma is transferred onto an innocent. And you become instantly holy.You don’t have to work at it, try to improve your charater by doing good karma. Just tell Jesus you’re sorry and all is forgiven.
maam that arthur is troll don’t argue with him he use to give same kind of word all over twitter/facebook/yotube.
Dear❤ Neel ji, We were not arguing but discussing! We were doing an online Satsang! Bhagvan & I love❤ U & He is still waiting 4 U to come back to Him.
Thank Loretto Taylor for your conversion to Hinduism…..when U do not consider yourself as sinner than there is no need of salvation or saviour……religion or religious works have no power to change U…..you are free to choose your own way….my request do not fall in the bondage of religion….go in peace
Mr Arthur fraud Jacob is like a tape recorder. he keeps on repeating the same nonsense again and again. He has proved that he has no sense of his own and cannot reply to questions. He almost sounds like a mental case. So many of his type are roaming free on the streets of India.
My ?Dear❤ Krishan bhai i ji, When U love❤ some UNTRUTH & hold on 2 it, TRUTH may seem like “nonsense” & Vice-Versa. Bhagavn ji 2U “They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served
created things rather than the Creator–who is forever praised. Amen.” > http://biblehub.com/romans/1-25.htm
Arthur fraud Jacob is doing planned provocation. he knows Temple is ours, but just want to give it a christian touch. so he is provocating us. Will he understand if we say that he is doing a wrong thing? No he will not, because he has lost the ability to be sensitive to other’s feelings. Then what will he understand? He will understand if we plant an OM on top of a church? he will understand if we use his tactics and re-convert people back to Hinduism? He and his masters will understand if we do to the church what he is doing to the temple. See who started this? It is people like arthur fraud who are responsible for trouble in India. Because If there is no conversion no Hindu will raise their voice against Christians. They are inviting trouble to the nation. Such trouble makers should be given the treatment they deserve.
This is poor thought……
These are well known secrets. First start fingering us (steal our culture). We punch them hard on their nose in reply (as in Graham Staines). They go back running to their momma’s house (US) and shout ‘Minorities attacked in India’. Filthy fraudsters.
Graham Staines was from Australia and lived in India for 34 years. That was a mistake. Christianity is not as homogenous as you think it is. The US Baptists have no connection whatsoever with the Roman Catholics or Anglicans.
Read about The Joshua Project to find about connections between them.
No connection.
living 34 years in a coutry is not a license to start trying to destroy it. Try doing that in Pakistan or Bangladesh. They will fry the guy in oil and serve him with green chutney!
Then you should go to Pakistan.
If I choose my religion to be Ferrarian, does it make me less Indian. You do not have to be Hindu to be Indian.
No body says you dont have to be hindu to be Indian. First hinduism is a word coined by foreigners. 2nd you are the so called accepted word “hindu” the moment you are born till you baptize or circumcise to convert. Well if god wanted you to do any of it he would have sent you that way. Hindu conversion is a politicized event. What you have to do to convert to hindu? nothing. You are one the moment you think you are, and god will mean no harm to you if you go to church or a mosque or a gurudwara or a jain or a buddhist temple or none at all. Thats the reason it has always been easier to convert a hindu. And to prevent you from converting back to hinduism church and mosque strictly bar you from doing so. Its again been happening historically. Inquisition of Goa, did they tell you about that, how brutal that was, they used strength then, now Churches explore the vulnerabilities and loop holes of a weak mind to convert, which we believe is cheap. They are christian because christian missionaries targetted them first, they could have been a muslim. Do they tell you about Sai Baba, whose picture is prayed by christians and muslims from Shirdi, or Ram bhakt Jalaram Bapa who is also called Jalla (Jalaram-Allah) by muslims in Virpur. One of these old Christian lady told me she heard about Jesus from people she dont know and yet believed it how can i not have my faith in Sai baba whose story i heard from my mother who seen him. Listen to Dr. Zakir Naik, what these so called christian sadhus say about the scriptures being christian he says the same thing about them being Islam, his got christian facts as well, if you listen to him you may probably convert to Islam. Its like a race between Christians and Muslims to convert as much as they can. Before asking why a hindu has a problem ask yourself why dont they have problems with a sikh or a jain or a buddhist or many other religions that exist for so long. People talk about how minorities are targetted and minorities are always christians and muslims, What about the other religions who are even minor then this. What about this so called minorities who are creating a havoc when they turn into a majority in a region? Northeastern states are classic example. How many churches have protested ethnic cleansing by Christian terrorists or forcible conversion and rapes of tribals who refuse to conversion. They shout the moment a hindu raise a finger at them. Why wouldnt a hindu shout when they raise a finger? There are many areas in India which get dominated by these so called minorities a hindu fears for himself. But majority of the areas in India these minorities can walk without fear. Every ritual practiced in a hindu temple has a reason behind it. Like why people offer their hair at Tirumala/tirupati a ritual which dates back to time unknown. Do the people at vellankini know why they are offering their hair at Vellankini? Its only a few hundred years. Yes some people do convert by their own belief and reasons which is totally acceptable. If jesus is the only one answering prayers, I have a question, most of the temples have a separate queue for people who want to make offerings on FULFILLING of their wish. The line at lal baugcha raja in Mumbai (Ganesh pandal-its not even a temple) is so long that it could take upto 14hrs for your turn. Mind you people standing in it are doing so after their wishes are fulfilled. If Jesus loves me so does Krishna and Mohammed. Its better to be a hindu and be tolerant about faiths of all religions than follow a religion that teaches to be self centered and intolerant to other religions. Now you you know why hindus believe that India would have been a better place if the muslims and christians missionaries never came. No intolerance you see. If they would have come made a mosque or a church no hindu would have complained and would have happily walked in offered his prayer and walked out like they have been doing in Gurudwara or any other religious temple for that matter. As a matter of fact an average everyday hindu would not feel his faith been affected like our minorities think if they enter a church or a mosque. On an average these minorities, their faith is so weak that they have to rely on disrespecting the hindu religion, holy book and gods to prove their faith to their religion and thats where the problem starts. An average hindu on the other hand may disrespect the person or the community but would no way disrespect their Gods or their holy books.
if you look at the strategy of Mr.Arthur Jacob Fraud Vullamparthi, he wants to borrow heavily from Hinduism, own it as his and then use it against Hindus. he thinks that all Hindus are fools. If he treats us as fools then how should we treat him?
Following Jesus is nothing about changing culture . It is NOT a religion……
mr. arthur jacob, I am not gay, if ur gay that is your problem. do not address me as dear, do not put love symbols, U can go and have gay sex at your church, and I have no problems with that. So are u going to answer my 3 questions? If not then ur fraud. My guess is u will not answer because you know that you are doing fraud. If you do not answer the 3 questions then my suggestion is that you u change ur name as Arthur Jacob Fraud Vullamparthi.
Krishna, my friend, why are you fulminating talking some lose language, why don’t you talk in a decent dignified manner befitting your humanity and stature if you have any? If you don’t have either please do tell us and we will ignore what you are saying so that time is well spent.
What is your question objectively?
I request Hindu friends here not to get provoked by Mr Jacob Arthur because he gets paid by his church masters for every comment he posts.the more he succedes in annoying Hindus the more perverted pleasure he gets.he would not dare that with Muslims because they will castrate him. He is confirming that converted Christians like him are hollow and also trouble makers. He is a slave of his masters in the west who train him to provoke fellow Indians. Such acts are against peace. Hope the government will take notice of such provocative trouble makers like Jacob Arthur.
You are so right about the pay per comment.More these dogs bark ,more people will know about their perfidy.I suggest make this article among the front-runners in Indiafacts.Also note this Dog Jacob has brought along three other dogs to bark in unison with him……….so entertaining.They see their world of deception burning down around them and can’t decide where to run so they are here ,all barking together.LOLLLLLLLLLL.
Mr.Arthur Jacob Vullamparthi, Do u know the meating of plagiarism? U want to copy from Hinduism to promote mr jc? So ur confirming that there is nothing original about jc? I have asked u 3 questions.
Yeshu did not have thousand names.He had only one name. That was Yeshu ibn bin Pantera -Pantera’s son Yeshu. Mary’s bastard son from a Roman soldier Pantera. I have nothing against all that . But do not talk about him as Prajapati and all that. Hindus do not recognise God this way and stop sending your devilish fraudulent or any other mails to me Arthur is not a Hindu name. Good you are given the name of King Arthur by the Church. Jacob also has a history. How much wealth have you amassed by calling Jesus Bhagvan you sinner? Do not ever write the same things you who have sold your soul to the Devil and are out to ruin the great Hindu tradition.I saw your copy of Shri Yantra That will not work for Christians because it has the ominous symbol of cross -a symbol of death and Jesus died as a criminal. Stupid and greedy people like you are disgusting to me The pseudo sinister smiles on your faces are fraudulent and repulsive.
STOP SENDINg MAILS TO ME
STOP THAT NONSENSE. You Andhrite pig. STOP IT. Trishul is Shiva’s weapon and is not a cross. Cross was not a weapon but a wooden frame to arrange in such a way as to hold Jesus’s body till he bled to death which de did not and walked out of the tomb and appeared as resurrected.Cross is a symbol of severe punishment. Distortion to the limit.
Now Subhangi Raykar, you are an Indian RACIST SHOWING RACISM TO FELLOW INDIAN CITIZEN. SHOWS HOW SICK YOUR MIND IS. No wonder you can’t see the Truth for what it is. You may be just beyond that line beyond which even the Creator cannot help you but leave you to your own means. What STATE of INDIA are you from and we will praise and bless that state and all its inhabitants in fact we are Indian and we love all Indians irrespective of what state it is.
He will NOT stop……..he has been PAID enough money by Rajasekhar Reddy and his American sponsors to do that.He is now under INTENSE PRESSURE to do something cuz all the elaborate plan is coming undone.He and his tribe will need a different kind of action before they stop.Meanwhile congrats on ur fearless stand before this anti-national PIG-SHIT. Keep it up.
Have you ever understood the concept of Moksha? It is not the Christian salvation and Jesus is not Prajapati.
You should be ashamed of the fact that the man who was crucified for sedition is paraded as a bali for your sins. The whole idea is warped. If you commit sin you should suffer for it. Why should God arrange for a proxy sufferer. That is strange and cruel. We are not interested in this concept of God.Keep it to yourself.You do not know Hindu ism well . That is why you are writing so much falsehood with the pink hearts Rotten Hindu who became a Rotten Christian
Instead of cross which is ashubh you should have om there. And blood letting does not go on in Hinduism which has evolve with time There is no Kurbani here, nor sacrifice – and his blood letting the halal way which was forced on him because he was seditious. And to say the Hindu festivals which have existed from time immemorial are Christian is the height of fraudulent claims. Christ rode donkeys, not a chariot.
This trick of hoodwinking illiterate Hindus by using Hindu concepts and words is a sin. You will surely burn in hell for this you pimp and panderer of your cult.
Keep your lies to yourself. Each word has a culture specific connotation. A purohit is not a priest.He does not spread any religion. Jesus, if he existed, asked his disciples to eat a little of his flesh and drink his blood to become one with him. These were modified to bread and red wine because his flesh and blood could not be given So you follow an exorcist and aghori practitioner. Do not ask Hindus to follow your path.
Yes but not through the Church but through the inclusive path of Sanatan dharm- Hinduism as it is popularly called.
I do not speak about dharma…..It has done nothing in my life….absolutely nothing….would you please be kind enough to tell me where it is written Hinduism is Sanatan Dharma…..
Yes dear Subhangi Raykar where is it written? But I will tell you that God our Creator, He is Righteous (He is the fulness and embodiment of Dharma), He is a Perfect Judge, because He is Perfectly Righteous and the time is coming when He will judge the whole world including you and me.
The inclusiveness comes from the Lord Yeshua, because by His precious blood He redeemed all of mankind. Whoever accepts Him and receives Him will be saved irrespective of their caste, nationality, tribe or tongue. Be it a Japanese or Korean or Chinese or Thai or Indian Punjabi or Indian Andhra or Indian Tamil or Indian Marathi, Pakistani, Iranian, European or African of American, all that are saved by the Lord Yeshua are ONE in Him built up as the Body of Christ and Members of His Body.
His sacrifice redeems not just mankind but the earth also. See everywhere in India we see thorny weeds and bushes, the sacrifice of the Lord will redeem and remove even those very thorny bushes off the land and instead plant flourishing greenery that bears fruit for the benifit of Man and animal.
Do not call Jesus Prajapati Bhagvan and all that. You do not have to teach me root of the words. I have studied Sanskrit and also English. You are not Raja or anything . You are a priest spreading Christianity through falsehoods. You are a dharmabhrast fellow. Either come back to Hinduism or burn in your Christian hell. You are misusing Hindu words and giving them different connotations. That is a deadly sin. This is how the Roman Catholics created a facade called Roman Catholicism after Jesus was punished for rajdroh.-sedition.If he could perform miracles he should have set himself free from the cross.He chose to die because he could not do anything else. He was put in the tomb before he was quite dead came to and walked out of the tomb. Next day the women who went found it empty. After three days when his wounds were better he walked to his followers who thought it was resurrection. Gullible , primitive people accepted all this and the entire facade of Christianity started from there. Do not tell lies. Jesus was only a self proclaimed son of God- the Christian God who pushed his son Adam and his playmate Eve down from heaven to the Earth and cursed him that he and his children will be born as sinners. Your stupid God does say that all human beings are born as sinners and his Son will come to redeem. Those are all stories in te old testament and non Christians do not believe them.Christianity has spread lies from its inception. The Abrahamic religions are limited and do not show the courage to seek the absolute TRUTH Soham.
If God of the Bible is stupid what you can say about our god and goddesses of scriptures to whom we offer prasad/bhog. Do you worship jyotir lingam? What is that?
Stop spreading lies by equating Krishna with Jesus. The entire philosophy of Krishna is totally different. Do not deceive the gullible by these lies. Do not equate anything in Sanatan dharma with Christianity which is a primitive religion of the Semites and spread because of its lies and the stories of miracles.Do not also call him as AVatar of Krishna. You are committing a deadly sin in that and will burn in your Christian hell.
Lies cannot be spread….if you think so than reconsider…..you cannot run away with truth…..Krishna is a philosophy or someone?
Calling Jesus Prajapati is a joke. The concept of Moksha is not trivial as to be equated with the so called sacrifice of Jesus. The miracles in Christianity are humbug. Psychological gimmicks. Jesus could not save himself and died on the cross like halal chicken, was removed when not quite dead and put in the tomb from where three days later he came to and walked. which was passed as resurrection. Do not spread false stories.
Do not talk nonsense. In Christianity the basic tenet is father’s sins visit on their children and man is born with the burden of sincommited by Adam and eve for which the first fall occured So a newly born baby also carries the sin and the parents confirm it at the time of baptism.Do not spoil our Sanatan Dharma by taking the symbals from it. For this you will be eternally damned.
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Whether he made a citizen of you or not… he did make a spammer of you. 🙂
Don’t care for your correct interpretation. 🙂 To the blind guy… the entire elephant is just the leg or a tail. Please feel free to enjoy your delusions. 🙂
Oh I have no doubt you believe that faith and human trust are WEAPONS……thanks for saying that aloud.Also thanks for the sensitivity…..I am onto something when I connect the Jesus delusion and Indian coastline……am I not? Here is some old fashioned Hindu polytheistic, heathen love to you too……..By the way ,speaking of God’s truth, when you get the time please read the following…….http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Bankers-History-Money-Vatican/dp/1416576576……..you will know how “lovable” and “truthful” the Jesus cult you sell is.
Hi! How are you doing? Have you never ever lied nor stolen money haven’t you? Are you so honest? Com’on. You are not that perfect are you?! If you are, you should stand up in the next election and we will vote you for PM of India.
I think you are so deluded you are unable to distinguish between Light and Darkness. I think you need to ask yourself what am I defending here and for what cause?
Go through your comment once your Christian spy-handler is out of the room.Even as a spammer you SUCKKKKKK.I think you need to ask urself if the blood in ur veins is worth the labor pain it cost ur mother to produce you.A spy such as you who sells out his motherland to foreigners for bribe should be HANGED,DRAWN and QUARTERED.How much are the ” Chuch fathers” [LOL-did each of them father you separately ……..oh wait it was Jesus the fictional CARTOON character that fathered all of you ……..right? so confusing.] paying you to write childish spam online? Try to COUNTER THE POINTS in the article if your Criminal mind is powerful enough to do so.
You can read this:
http://www.karma2grace.org/page.asp?pg=48
Since Jesus was avatar of Lord Krishna, so Jesus is part of Lord Krishna. So if you follow Lord Krishna you automatically follow Jesus.
Krishna is a philosophy how can someone follow?
My ?Dear❤ Ajan bhai ji, ‘Krish’ is attractiveness & ‘na’ means spiritual pleasure. So “Krishna” is an attribute/description of Jesus/Prajapathi/Bhagvan-the-Putr! 4 eg: ‘Krishnam Vande Jagatgurum’ means “I bow down to Lord Jesus{Prajapathi}, the teacher of the entire universe”
There R people who R named Jesus but that doesn’t make them Jesus/Prajapati{Bhagvan-the-Putr} Right? Same with the name ‘Krishna’.
I LOVE❤ lord Krishna but he is not Bhagvan ji. Jesus is King of Kings & Lord of Lords. Jesus/Prajapati is the Lord of lord Krishna 2!
Sorry but Jesus was not attractive and was not spiritual. He was a political insurrectionist if he existed. “Krishnam Vande Jagatgurum” means “Praise Krishna, the Guru of the Universe” Jesus was not guru of universe. Because only he could be Guu if his father God created, but since evolution is true so his father God does not exist. therefore Jesus has no divine power. How Jesus can be king of kings when he did not have divine powers? You should know earliest christian writer was Paul, who never mentioned about Jesus’ miracle powers, he did not even see Jesus.
Sorry, that article is reliable about Jesus’s historical existence.
Sorry bro, I dont have Free Will. Because if I dont use my Free will to accept your Jesus I will end up in hell. Hitler too gave Free will, either you accept him or be sent to concentration camp. Not much really difference. Jesus was(if he existed) was an avatar of Lord Krishna, so if you accept Lord Krishna you automatically follow Jesus. It is up to you. You dont need to be Christian additionally. May Lord Shiva save your soul from being reincarnated as poor living being in your next life.
Ajan bhai. How are you? Good to see that you are participating in the discussion. But don’t make some very fundamental mistakes my friend.
How can you compare a mythical Krishna with Messiah Yeshua?!
A simple difference between the Mythical Krishna and the Living and Eternal Lord of all the Earth, Messiah Yeshua, you want to know what that is? Open your ears wide and after hearing it ponder over it, DO NOT RUSH TO GIVE ME AN ANSWER and prolong this conversation.
The Difference between Mythical Krishna and the Lord and Master of all the Earth.
Remember the story, when it rained some where near river Yamuna? When it rained Mythical Krishna provided relief to the villagers. Yes he did. And the way he did it, he lifted up a hill on his finger, so that the people can get under the hill until the rain passed. Yes he lifted the hill like a, like a what? An umbrella.
Let’s see what happened when the Lord of the Earth and the Elements was on the planet. When a storm rose in the Sea of Galilee, the Lord simply said “Peace! Be still!” And the STORM CEASED and the RAIN STOPPED.
That is the difference between the Lord and Creator of the Heavens and the Earth and a mythical god in a myth a written by a mere storyteller. So know at least now, who or what you are talking about.
“NO human is born a SINNER ” you are committing blasphemy against Christianity. James 2:10, you must accept all of Bible and Eve did original sin. Therefore you are not following Bible. Adam and eve scientifically and historically did not exist. So therefore no original sin.
As world is older than 6000 year, therefore world was not created by your God, therefore you God does not exist. SO even if I committed sin, you God cant save me.
Are you consider yourself as a sinner? Do you commit mistake? Do you like to do sin? Why so? Where it comes from? Do you have inherent ability to sin? You choose sin or someone is influencing to sin? I think you are a sinner by your choice. You cannot run away from the truth. You may be great and intelligent being.
Hello Barbarian Duper AJAN,
Do not play with FACT, because Christianity is based on FACTS. It cannot be compared with local religions who named it as Hindu to survive their daily life. Look into the Super Power countries of today, then ask your self who gave super to these countries. You will get a real answer. Everybody knows that Almighty and Real God, JESUS gave superpower to many countries who are blessed with his power of forgiveness.
No my God is not violent, he only crushes demons. Not innocent people. He does not say if you dont follow him you will burn in hell.
It seems you are a Tamil. May Lord Shiva bless your soul. Aum Namah Shivaya. I will pray for your lost soul.
Shiva or Krishna to whom you say here?
Yes different, because your God does not exist. Evolution is a fact. There was no Adam and Eve. So no original sin. So no need of Jesus(he did not even exist). Your God is violent too. Matthew 10:34 and 35, Luke 14:26. Get the facts right.
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Everything in this article claiming Hindu festivals as their is the biggest joke of the millennium. The religion which has million yrs of proven history celebrated these festivals even b4 the so called Christianity is born then how cum they even come up with such absurd n idiotic idea. This is heights of their foolishness. This itself says how insecure they r regarding their religion. If their religion is so gr8 then why begging to convert by giving money and stealing all hindu rituals. This itself say how low these missionaries r thinking.
It is not foolish my friend it is wily.
the bankruptcy of Christianity should be clear frm the amount it borrows from Hinduism to enrich it!! What wud hapn if Hindus started dressing up as “fsthers” and ” brothers” and started speaking evil abt Christianity? All hell wud b let loose from Christians but more from “sickulars”!! inculturation is and must be declared illegal and legislation must be made to stop it!! How can the Pope support all this religious hanky panky!!?
I am wondering. Is this Christianizing Hindu rituals or Hinduizing a christian god??
Hinduism does not say pray to one god. We pray to various avatars. We do pradakshana, say ashtottaranama and sahasra naama for all our gods irrespective of genders or region in which he is prayed.
I think Hindu propagators should take this opportunity to say Jesus is a Hindu. And everyone following him is a Hindu by default.
😀 Dear <3 Jitu ji, I am a Hindu-Stani like U & all my beloved brothers & sisters in Hindustan. That identity cannot change as it has been established by Bhagvan ji Himself. But I'm also a TRUE #Sanathani
As of now U R a Hindu-Stani like me & U may falsely believe/think that U R a #Sanathani but U R not one yet.U & all our brothers & sisters in Hindustan can become #Sanathanis ONLY by accepting Jesus/Prajapati who Himself is Eternal-Truth & Righteousness/Sanathan-Dharma
How much do they pay you to sabotage India? Where are your kids settled? Where are your bank accounts? Also which language do you sell your Jesus cult in?
Ha ha ha… please cut the crap and find other souls to harvest. 🙂
If Jesus was sanathani… am sure you don’t mind being a Hindu. Why bother to convert to this sham religion?
The only problem is cross as a symbol which is a symbol of negativity, death and destruction
Do not commit that mistake. They are adopting everything Hindu and corrupting it. He has created a Yantra with Yishu sahasranaam. Everything Hindu is being misused. Christians are wily. Muslims are aggressive but literal followers of Islam
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Christians have always been stealing festivals of others. Christmas is nothing but a theft of pagan festival of celebration of winter solstice.
The biggest enemies of Hinduism are the ignorant, tolerant Hindus who believe in the equality of all religions. Ask a christian or a muslim and he/she will tell you that their religion is the only way. It’s time to expose the activities Christains have been indulging in for centuries not only in India but all over the world. They have no clue about the damage caused by these jesus freaks. Hardly anyone knows about Goan inquisition that lasted for 325+ years. My own dad wanted me to visit the church in Goa to pay respect to the dead body of devil err saint francis – the biggest bastard of them all. :-))
Talk to your family, friends, facebook friends. Refuse to take part in christian celebrations
in your workplace. Be ready with concrete facts to hammer home the points without getting emotional. We just need to build a critical mass of informed Hindus and then the sheep’s garb will be off to expose the christian wolves.
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You dont need to share your God with anyone. Just keep it to yourself. And please dont call Bhagawan. Our Bhagawan does not punish by sending eternally to hell.
Do not try to save India through religions…..we have failed miserably and continue to do if we do not understand the real issue…..let follow Modiji and Make in India…..one India….without following the path of religion
Just stop spreading lies..
The people you call tolerant idiot Hindus are not right wing loonies, like the Christian loonies in Southern US.
You know nothing of the Inquisition. It wasn’t against Hindus, it was against converted Catholics and my ancestors.
We know very well what was against what,,, just shut your shop..
Go eat a snake again.
Hello Duper Vikas,
FICTION can only be Fiction. FACT is a Fact. Christianity is based on FACTS, but whereas the Hinduism is based on FICTION. First you understand this, truth then start writing. Today all technologies whatever you use in daily life and in each moment these articles and devices are INVENTED by Christian Scientists. i.e means these are given to us by JESUS CHRIST. To make you more understand, give me reply to the following questions. Telephone, Radio, Electricity, Televisions, Computers, Flights, Trains and many more, first you answer who has invented these for the global public.
India is slowly turning from a continental power to a naval power…….with national justified aspirations over entire Indian Ocean Region……we have highly sensitive installations on our coastlines…….it is deeply worrisome to witness the mushrooming of Christian neo-convert localities along those same coastlines……Dharmantikaran is just the prelude to Rashtrantikaran……we need to exert double energy in sanitizing the coastlines of evangelist activity…….who knows what else will follow otherwise.
Do not forget that the FLAG of THE INDIAN NAVY HAS A RED CROSS WITH THE FLAG OF INDIA RESTRICTED TO ONLY ONE QUADRANT.
Do not also forget that ISRO started its life in a church building in Kerala and that the first sounding rockets were brought from USA when USA was still a predominantly Christian country.
You cannot climb to the top and then kick the ladder that helped you get up there. Is that your values? Are you still no amused about yourself?
Don’t forget there are many Christians who are working in ISRO, DRDO, Indian Navy, Army and Air Force upholding and persevering for the country.
Don’t also forget the Leader of the Navy the Admiral is a Christian and his name is Robin K Dhowan.
“Ignorance is bliss”.
I don’t have to travel far out to find evidence to the above saying. You are fooling yourself – yeah for example by naming the Russian T-90 tank as “Bhishma”. What a joke????
Your points have no merit…….
1.ISRO started at TIFR building,nowhere near a church…….EDUCATE urself.
2.The sounding rockets were supplied as USA wanted to hedge its risks against a Communist China .USA did ALL it could to sabotage advances in our aerospace sector,including the Cryogenic Engine……COOL ur Christian Jihadi Fire.NOBODY GAVE A LADDER ………India made its own ladder.Take ur righteous lecture to those poor souls you convert through BRIBERY. EDUCATE urself.
3.The number of Christians working in EACH of the above organizations is MINUSCULE………and anyways there is that patriotic section in every community,UNLIKE URSELF. The Indian NAVAL flag cross is a continuation of the British ensign and was taken as a tradition and NOT AS CHRISTIAN SYMBOL.Stop being delusional .EDUCATE urself.
4.As for naming a few top officers,equally there have been Muslims and Sikhs in high positions.Point is the current Indian Christian community is disproportionately infiltrated and compromised by extra-territorial powers.YOUR BARKING does NOT change that.
5.As for talking down to me………..know well that I am ONE HEATHEN THAT IS PROUD OF ITSELF [I know that you being a devout Christian ,I am sub-human to you till I convert…….I won’t and I think you and ur bloodthirsty Church SUCKS].
6. As for the Tank,yes that has MULTIPLE Indian modifications and adaptations and it will have HINDU names [even if ur ass burns…….but do u have one ass cuz ur are an entire asshole urself……..LOLLLLLL,just like ur CRIMINAL GENOCIDAL CHURCH and that FICTIONAL CARTOON character with a beard called Jesus] .Bring urself to light…………https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/12/18/did-historical-jesus-exist-the-traditional-evidence-doesnt-hold-up/. Once again EDUCATE URSELF.
7.Go lecture to ur flock and try to deceive them……..GHARWAPSI will pick up steam and ur BUSINESS will NOT be the same as before .Ur GODMOTHER is no longer in power.Chew on that.
8.In case you are still wondering……..I am VERY AMUSED by UR MONKEY DANCE .
Bring it on Christian Evangelist Jihadi…………..
You can keep having your fun. I think you are griping a lot but that’s your inner struggle with your self-dissatisfaction. No one except God can help you with this. Have fun nice to have talked to you but your half baked uncooked answers won’t get us any where.
Even Hindu Marriage Law is based on the Biblical Marriage Standard.
Bible itself is a derivative of at least a dozen Pagan traditions and middle eastern traditions.The whole idea of organized clergy and monasteries was LIFTED out of Buddhism and Hinduism.Christ is a plagiarized idea from Eastern traditions.Compared to the Jesus cult even Islam has more frankness and Judaism definitely has more depth.The Jesus cult is the worst of all the Abrahamics.In the Jesus cult,the Texas based Evangelist cabal is the most criminal one.As I speak,its network in the country [India] is being unearthed and dismantled.Expect more heathen fire in the days to come.
Oh Indiannot AMused, I’m amused by your knowledge. First TIFR was started by Homi Bhabha and Homi Bhabha made contributions to India achieving nuclear independence. Space program was started completely independently of the nuclear programme, the goals were different, the people and the departments were different.
I do not have to defend the Holy Bible and Christianity in this post again, I have already done thoroughly on other posts on this web page.
China a communist state is projected to become the largest Christian country surpassing USA in another 20 to 30 years. And many African and far east Asian countries are on that path. India is also steadily on that path. You and I nor the governments nor empires nor even the devil can stop this.
The hungry go to where the food is and the thirsty to where the water is.
Wallow in your delusions………end times for Jesus cult are drawing nearer as you spit your verbal diarrhea. That in turn is a consequence of your indoctrination by the Jesus cultists.
You wallow in your own ignorance. I’m amused by you, ignoramus. I have no delusions about life. I have worked hard and got to where I got to… so absolutely not deluded. I know the pain it takes to reach a height. And if you are a man of integrity and honesty then the pain is even graver.
You are standing on shaky ground, your foundation is unstable.
The Communist empire fell apart. The Capitalist empire of greed will also fall apart. All empires shall fall apart.
“The kingdoms of the earth shall become the kingdom of our God and His Messiah.”
Truth shall remain and Truth alone Triumphs. सत्यमेव जयते.
Men come and go and become the dust of the earth. But the ONE WHO IS ETERNAL, “THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER.”
“By Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities all things were created by Him and for Him.”
LOL………..”Worked hard”……………to get ” Religious scholarship” from Child Molesting Jesus Cultists.”Have suffered” ……….to get admiration as a ” House Nigger” from White Supremacist Cultists to look down upon genuine countrymen,kith and kin…………’Field Niggers” in their view. All that bullshit you spew as ” Christian thoughts” is a wannabe copy of far more advanced philosophies ranging from Hinduism to Confucianism.Like any copycat bullshit,it has the outside of a seemingly good quality but the inside is hollow and filled with corruption. You are entertaining in a ” frustrated dopey that turned the town clown” sort of way. Just shows the category of people that go into the Jesus cult.
You are a drain on the public expenditure. Your knowledge of things is so limited, I wonder what you do for a living?!
Confucianism is 6th century BC. There’s more than 2000 years of Chinese history before that and that is continuous unbroken and they were worshipping all that time. Worshipping Shang Di/Tian. With humility. Not like these empty braggarts.
Hinduism?! I do not know if you passed at least an Indian level 10.
Long before Hinduism, there was Buddhism. India was a Buddhist country from the north to the south under Asoka. Before Buddhism there were a different set of gods that the people worshipped. You do not have an inkling of the history of India. You didn’t even know the basic things about TIFR.
You are not worthy of my attention.
Long before Hinduism…………you are not only an ignoramus ,you are suffering from serious mental hallucinations…….seriously what do those Christian bastards feed you guys?EACH and EVERY Indian tradition is a derivative of Sanatan Dharma aka Hinduism.
As for your “sense of history” rest assured I do not study the same “sources” that you do……..pretty sre you think that a creature celled “St.Thomas” actually came to India……..did not your “history Jesus ” teach you that? LOLLLLLLL
As for judging me or ANYONE ELSE, a self declared Pundit like you are in no position. As for your attention ……..I have the attention f at least a dozen Jesus cult leaders that are finding our group an obstacle.So as you see, a small fry like you need not worry itself crazy over “attention”.Had a lot of fun showing you and your Jesus Jihad their place in the world.
Shang-Di is the Taoist God Jade Emperor, king of the hosts of Taoists Gods. They sacrificed a bull to him in the Temple to him and the other Gods, the Temple of Heaven.
Shang-Di is also a reference to all the Gods of Taoist heaven. Tian meaning heaven is another name of his but also a reference to all the hosts of the Taoist Gods in Taoist heaven.
Christianity being a compulsively inculturating religion has tried to encroach on the Taoist religious name Shang-Di and pretend this refers to the non-existent biblical mono-god. But Shang-Di and Tian inherently imply other Chinese Gods too. These sacred names can never be a reference to the ‘god’ of any monotheism. Besides, Shang-Di and Tian are exclusive to native Chinese religion, which is specifically polytheistic and idolatrous.
“Long before Hinduism, there was Buddhism.”
More of your evangelical christian nonsense that you pretend is history.
Millennia before Buddhism, there was Hinduism also known as the Vedic religion, the sole Sanatana Dharma (the sole Dharma in fact). And the Vedic Gods were the Gods that the country’s ancient natives, who are the Hindus, worshipped in ancient India and still worship today.
Words like Dharma, Karma and everything in between that the later Indic religions started using were entirely copied from Vedic religion, i.e. Hinduism.
Jainism’s historical teerthankara Mahavira similarly referred to homas which are exclusively Vedic religion, and Mahavira then merely regurgitated the pre-existing Upanishadic teachings about the esoteric nature of Vedic homas/yaj~nyas, thus once again underlining that Vedic Religion (Hinduism) pre-existed both Jainism and Buddhism, and that all these later Indic religions merely copied from Vedic religion.
Likewise, and contrary to your claims elsewhere, sankhyan views including moksha were copied from Vedic religion into Buddhism and Jainism.
Buddhism was actually never that commonly practised in greater India. Buddhism was mostly restricted to Buddhist monks and didn’t even try to gain laity until much later on.
Just like the massive and growing number of churches dotting India’s countryside today do not change the fact that India still has a Hindu majority and christians are still but a minority, where the large number of churches merely shows christians’ intent to convert the nation, the massive numbers of Buddhist centres all the way up to Afghanistan were built under patronage and do not reflect the actual numbers of Buddhists in India, and do not change the fact that greater India was majority Hindu then still. (Something Buddhist visitors from China long ago had specifically noted too, speaking of the paucity of actual Buddhists.) When Afghanistan came back under Hindu kingship, after some rulers’ brief dalliance with Buddhism, nothing much had to change on the ground, as the large majority of the laity had remained steadfastly Hindu throughout. As I said, this much is borne out by documentation.
But they don’t teach you actual history in your evangelical christian seminary: as I recall, you recently laughably claimed (again, contrary to documented history) that 1. christians had never demolished pagan Greek and Roman libraries and 2. that the last library of antiquity in Alexandria was suddenly a “christian” library instead.
Go away cretin.
HA HA HA HA…. Wallow in your ignorance…
Shang Di is Taoist!!! Shang Di was never worshipped as an idol and He was worshipped for 2000 years before Taoism was practiced in China. CHINA HAD A STEADY CIVILIZATION UNBROKEN FOR 4500 YEARS. SHANG DI WAS NEVER MADE AN IDOL – HE WAS CONSIDERED TOO DISTANT TO BE WORSHIPPED BY MORTALS. KING SOLOMON PRAYED: “O GOD WHO IS IN THE HEAVEN OF HEAVENS…” THAT’S FAR TOO DISTANT TO BE REACHED BY MORTAL HUMAN BEINGS.
The gods of the Vedas have long become defunct. Indra – Zeus – Thor, they are all the same, the god of the thunderbolt…lol… None of the Forces of Nature that were worshipped in Vedas ever continued after Buddhism, because at the very time when Buddhism became widespread throughout India, Christianity entered the sub continent and brought the ideas of a LIVING GOD.
Asoka sent his children as ambassadors of Buddhism and not of idolatry. Asoka’s edicts have been found in the south of AP and Karnataka. The massive statue of Gomateshwar – Jain thirthankara – in southern Karnataka is evidence of widespread Jainism.
“Hinduism” lol… even the name of this so-called hodge-podge pot pourri was given by the British. It is not even a religion.
The idolatry of Hinduism is simply the worship of animals and then add in a few stories of some odd kings and their cousins. And the gods that have been worshipped never remained the same, they kept on changing with time, place and people and rulers.
If you visit India; YOU SEE ELEPHANTS EVERYWHERE AND MONKEYS EVERYWHERE. Elephanst and Monkeys have been venerated and became gods as a result, just like the EGYPTIANS WORSHIPPED CROCODILES AND FALCONS.
The Ajanta CAVES are a living testimony in stone to the evolution of religion in India. The oldest caves and carvings were all Buddhist up until the 4th century AD and then came “Hindu” carvings.
A 1000 stupas have been excavated in AP. Archaeology reveals that later “idolatrous temples” were built on previous Buddhist structures.
YOU MAY GO AND TELL YOUR STORIES, TO THE UNSUSPECTING AND THE LOW IQ… BUT DON’TWASTE MY TIME HERE AS I’VE BEEN TELLING.
Like I told you on the other web page, you should work on improving and correcting the wrongs you have done in your life to achieve some satisfaction or other wise humble yourself and come to the feet of the LORD OF THE UNIVERSE, THE IMMORTAL INVISIBLE GOD WHO REVEALED HIMSELF IN THE FACE OF THE LORD YESHUA HA MASCHIACH. HE WILL TAKE YOUR BURDENS AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE UP HIS CROSS AND FOLLOW IN HIS FOOTSTEPS HUMBLY. This will give you peace for the rest of your life and you can see the grave without fear.
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You claimed:
1. “The Ajanta CAVES are a living testimony in stone to the evolution of religion in India. The oldest caves and carvings were all Buddhist up until the 4th century AD and then came “Hindu” carvings.”
Yet here’s what even National Geographic admitted:
“for hundreds of years, almost all Buddhist temples, including the ones at Ajanta, were built under the rule and patronage of Hindu kings.”
More proof that Hinduism pre-existed Buddhism and was the cause not just of all the earliest Hindu temples, but of the earliest Buddhist temples–for “hundreds of years” in fact.
Also, Buddhism didn’t allow depiction of Buddha originally, other than his feet or rather their imprint. In contrast, Hindu temple sculptures already existed. That’s why when Hindu sculptors were commissioned to fashion the early Buddha and other Buddhist imagery, they naturally based the ‘look’ of Buddhist figurines off the look of pre-existing Hindu sculpted divine images.
2. And yes, as I said: Shang-Di is actually a Taoist God. I would know: I have lots of Chinese friends, many of whom are of the Chinese ancestral religion (known to the west as “Taoism”). Chinese “folk religion”, as christianity has dubbed it, is Taoism. Taoism far pre-dates the Tao Te Ching: Taoists have always traced their religion back to the Yellow Emperor from around 5 millennia back (who was therefore dubbed “mythical” by christianity for predictable reasons).
Even wikipedia still admits this much:
“The Yellow Emperor or Huangdi … reigned from 2697 to 2597[6] or 2698 to 2598 BC.[1] … The Yellow Emperor was credited with an enormous number of cultural legacies and esoteric teachings. While Taoism is often regarded in the West as arising from Laozi, Chinese Taoists claim the Yellow Emperor formulated many of their precepts.[74]”
Maybe you should do what you evil cretins always do: run off to wikipedia and re-write the above?
Also, Shang-Di/Tian (the Jade Emperor of the Taoist Gods) did cyclically get sacrificed a bull at the Temple of Heaven. And Shang-Di, when referring to a particular Taoist God rather than all the host of Gods of Taoist Heaven, is both depicted and not depicted in images and characters, depending on the temple and the form this Taoist God was worshipped in (e.g. the manifest form of Jade Emperor vs unmanifest form).
However, even when Shang-Di is used to refer to a single Taoist God, i.e. the Jade emperor, he was and is always one among many Gods, that is, part of a pantheon (like a ‘Shahan-Shah’ of the Chinese Gods):
“He [Shangdi] was seen as one deity (ancestor) among many.[1] In this way, Shangdi bears more similarities to the dyeus figures in Indo-European religions (e.g., Zeus, Jupiter, Tiwaz) than to the God of Jews, Christians and Muslims.“
Which is understandable, since Shang-Di is and always will remain a heathen God, and always one among many (being the High Emperor of Chinese Gods), besides being a reference to all the Gods of Chinese Heaven, Tian.
3. You’re not going to once again make that claim that you did last time of how the Chinese script is related to biblical religion, are you? (A claim that only the most degenerate christians still make, to the embarrassment of other christians). You had delusionally claimed:
“Perhaps you could do some research on the Chinese language. It will show you how the truths of the Holy Bible have been preserved in the language of the ancient Chinese characters.”
Don’t you cretins know that Chinese and western authors have long refuted such desperate christian missionary nonsense? E.g. see Biblical Errancy: Genesis and Chinese Characters at Edward T Babinsky’s site. (Babinsky’s the author of “Leaving the Fold: Testimonies of Former Fundamentalists”, by the way.) See also this discussion at Chinese Forums.
Oh you poor christians, caught in a lie again.
3. “The gods of the Vedas have long become defunct. Indra … None of the Forces of Nature that were worshipped in Vedas ever continued after Buddhism”
So is that why, as per the “Silappadikaaram” Tamizh language text, it’s not just Hindu temples to Indra that were still around, when all Tamizhs and Malayalis worshipped Indra (as well as the other Vedic Gods like Durga, Vishnu, Shiva, etc), but there were back then even plagiarist Buddhist temples and Jains that had started worshipping Indra too?
And thus you are caught in further christian lies yet again: that Indra wasn’t worshipped after Buddhism, and that Buddhism was the majority religion in southern India after Ashoka. (Buddhism was never even the majority religion in the Afghan part of greater Bharatam.)
As for “forces of nature”, all the Hindu devas are Gods in the same sense that the Germanic, Taoist, Graeco-Roman, Korean, Japanese and other heathen deities are Gods. The Vedas describe the forms and appearances of numerous devas, and refers to the weapons they wield, for instance, but also discusses their supreme divine natures, manifest in various ways in their cosmos and presiding over all aspects of it, of which the forces of nature are a proper subset, just like the senses over which these Gods also preside.
The word “God” is a Germanic religious term for the Germanic/Norse Gods, therefore it can’t be applied to the non-existent, invisible mono-“god” of monotheisms, which are not even real as they’re only invented. Hence no monotheism even qualifies for the sacred Germanic term ‘God’. “Imaginary character” is all that factually describes the mono-entity central to any monotheism. The biblical mono-entity is specifically to be described as a “sociopathic imaginary character”: as per the bible itself the character is always angry, jealous and prone to genocide, and always threatening with infinite punishment (eternal hell fire) for finite “crimes” such as people “not believing” in invisible=non-existent mono-entities that no one–most notably christians themselves–has actually ever even seen.
Sorry cretin, I only glanced over your comment. There’s no point my reading the rest of your nonsense, taking it all apart point by point, because you’re always making up stuff anyway, and all of it contrary to documented facts. Maybe you christians=cretins should stop with your hobby of compulsive lying?
And get an education. What you learned at seminary clearly does not qualify as one.
TIFR was the common birthplace of ALL the strategic initiatives which were spun out later in the form of BARC and others.EDUCATE yourself.Don’t believe ur many “Christian fathers.” They violated your mother and soon they will violate you.
good article – important points
Every proud Hindu Must be reading this site : http://ajitvadakayil.blogspot.in/
Actually, I nowadays think that the Evangelists are more wily but the possibilities started with Hindu code bill and secularism imposed on Hindus or accepted by Hindus while minorities under the garb of their status and a lot of money pumped in by Evangelists under the pretext of the NGOs is destroying the very fabric of Hindu society.The Church run schools are busy creating a crowd of pseudo seculars who are eager to criticize the Hindus t the drop of hats.
Don’t forget some of the evangelists were ex-Brahmins. If the very Brahmins who were the founders and promulgators of the so-called religion of Hinduism are discovering the Truth and findind and acknowledging the Creator, what benefits you to patronize those idols of stone that have man-made ears but cannot hear, man-made eyes but cannot see, man-made legs but cannot walk, man-made hands but cannot move.
I know it is foolish to suggest but I hope I atleast make you think. Perhaps you could get a Honda Asimo robot and worship it, at least it can help in a few chores.
” If the very Brahmins who were the founders and promulgators of the so-called religion of Hinduism are discovering the Truth and findind and acknowledging the Creator”
Shouldn’t you rather be worried about the growing number of ex-christians (“Christians are leaving the faith in droves and the trend isn’t slowing down” as per Business Insider Apr 2015), including former missionaries and former priests?
Forgot to make another book suggestion for you earlier:
Why I Believed: Reflections of a Former Missionary (2009) by Kenneth W. Daniels.
Who told you that Brahmins are finding truth in any foreign religion. Your kind has just bought some selfish greedy people, thats it.
Now about worshiping idols:
Christians worship idol of ‘+’ symbol or jesus isn’t so?
Muslims worship sleeping idol(kabra) isn’t so?
What do you think, those stuffs can not be destroyed?
And if its about worshiping Almighty God then, Its clearly written in our Geeta that Krishna is the one almighty God, worship him.
And that almighty god is every where in you, in me in every particle, so no matter what you worship you are worshiping him only.
Reality:
Islam = 1400 years old
Christianity = 2000 years old.
Our Sanatan Dharma(British given name:Hinduism) = More than 6000 years old
That 6000 years is based on the evidence that have been found by historians, we actually believe that sanatan dharma is from the begining but you and your kind may not believe that.
Hello Navneet do not give fake history. Go back and see how India was before 6000 years. You are writing like a crook. First you should know the difference between FACT and FICTION. Hinduism is based on only FICTION. I request you go through the meaning for FICTION. You are a coward to compare CHRISTIANITY with other Religions. Also you should know only the FICTION was to tell something which actually not happened or even it cannot happen at any time. FACT means the real and actually happened in the society.
You are such a bigot to believe in this BS created by your own bigoted mind! Idols? If you do not know about the concept of Murthys in Hinduism that represent the omnipresent, omnipotent ONE God, then your shameless acts of digesting Hindu rituals and culture are lost on you! Jesus NEVER existed and he is a fictitious character. How can a virgin give birth? Are you dolt out of your mind to believe some desert cult sh1t? Grow a brain, you lowly convert!
So you are greater than God, are you?! How long is the length of your life? Do you know it?
We need to shut down and or commandeer those schools and hospitals.They are a serious threat to India.
How do you propose to do this?
The word Secular to be re-addressed. This has made our nation weak because it divides instead of uniting. Which other religion supports another? its never there. Faith is only related to religion. It is a mistake to assume that all religions are the same. It is never so. If it was, then one would not be attacking another and there would not have been these treacherous ways of hidden agendas of conversion. It is time we also beat our drum in the social media. It is age of electronics and not only mouth to mouth which was there years back. And it has little impact. Its time we disclose their intentions and the hijack of our ethos.
Christianity is the most quickly disappearing religion in the West.They are shivering because they fear the Muslims are going to outrun them in their own turf.And then it is Shariah……it is the Crusades once more.So they need more foot soldiers.The West is Done with them.That is why you find the American religious right on permament backfoot before the Liberals.This is what the Christ-delusion is about…………..http://www.religiousrightwatch.com/Meanwhile China and India alongside Korea are main targets.China and Korea are already woken up and taking the necessary steps.Time for India to wake up also.
Evangelical and Pentecostal Christianity is very different from Catholicism. You are confusing the two. Church is a common noun like temple and does not represent one single entity.
I do not understand what you say. I never talked of any sect. It is the American Evangelists that are busy proselytising. I am not happy about it as we are creating the ‘other’ oriented selves before our eyes. What I hate most is their inculturation and confusing people trough it. You also might be a convert though you have a beautiful Sanskrit name.
Whatever you say.. your activities are not welcome.. do you understand that??
Go eat a snake Garuda.
All this is very painful and has been made possible because of divisiveness in Hindus. Why do we not unite and stop this insult to Hinduism. or at least make an effort to call the bluff.Appropriation of Lord Krishna started in late 70’s.
Conversion is one way enemy can destroy your nation with out sending any army . Working well for islam and christians . formula Convert locals to destroy own nations and race and roots. All converts should be treated as antinational. .
That is why we should not only support “ghar wapasy” but activelly encourage re conversions. Many lambs will come back. Also the NGO’s should not be allowed to accept foreign funding.
B….like Chellappa and thingummy mami are no more brahmin than I am a christian. The church holds them up as brahmins for ‘show and tell’ pimping of their cult knowing full well we cannot prove they are not brahmin. And getting hold of some fair skin rascal men and women as brahmins is pathetic because i am brahmin and I am at best dark white.
This is The De Nobili agenda revisiting India.
The concluding para of this article should be the starting point for the Union government of India, ” To start with, the Centre must enact a blanket ban on inculturation with
stringent punishments for violators. If at all the generic Church wants
to sell Jesus in India, let them try to sell him with their own
testaments. Let them not steal Hindu scriptures, symbols and rituals
shamelessly.”
Not selling their religion, pimping their religion.
😀 Dear http://mostimportantdecision.blogspot.com/
Dearie you are the sinner. Your dead man’s cult has made all of you sinners. In my wonderful Hindu dharma we are all divine by nature and birth in creation is a blessing. So go sell your dead man cult to other isiots like you who have traded intelligence for greed.
Radha Rajan, don’t forget that Christ defeated death and rose again on the 3rd day. He said He was going to lay down His life and He did it. Whereas Krishna was shot by an unaimed arrow and he didn’t even know it was coming at him and he died in the jungle no one next to him. Krishna is a dead man. Christ is the Resurrection and the Life – the giver of Life, the very reason that you can breathe.
You have only confirmed what I have always maintained – that followers of the jesus cult are mentally deficient to accept fables as facts. You claim historicity for jesus and yet there are no historiucal eveidences to prove his birth. And resurrection is only funny haha for ghosts. Srikrishna was human and died a human death. Hindu religion does not rest on one individual. If jesus could not protect himself how can he protest you? And I breathe because I am a manifestation of the divine not a sinner like you. Its not too late. Take refuge in Hinduism and you will know what it means to be divine and celebrate your biorth inspead of being told you and your mother were born in sin.
Dear Radha Rajan, Just blankly saying that it is a fable devalues your own self. I don’t know what your education level is, you don’t have to look far to see the impact of Christ’s teachings on India let alone the world and all the nations, even Communism crumbled, the empires crumble because of what the Lord determines. If your mind is so deluded no one can help you. We are here only to point you to Christ. It is up to you to investigate and find the truth. Christ is God if You ever need Him in any difficulty He is available to help.
But you need not mock me nor any believing Christian and make a fool of yourself and pile up spiritual bad karma against yourself, because you are trying hard to escape from accepting the reality and if you didn’t and you were honest with yourself you wouldn’t be spending time on this website arguing with us.
Your cult fishes in misery, is predatory and preys upon the vulnerable and has genocided and exterminated entire civilizations, nations and religions. Just look back to see what the Jesus cult to Native Americans to Africa and to the Moros of Phillipines. Also the jesus cult is responsible for the Atlantic slave trade and for colonialism. You look back and see how your jesus cult expanded across contonents leaving behind entire nations in rivers of blood. So spare me the bullshit about your cult. Your Jesus cult is cult of death – from inception till date.
Dear Radha Rajan,
You are saying many things without any objective historical proofs and back-ups. I see three things here.
Point 1. You have a lot of bitterness of heart either from disappointment in life, or lack of satisfaction in your life, dissatisfaction from not having achieved your full potential. This bitterness could be the root cause why you are railing against Christians and Christianity.
The Lord Jesus Christ/Yeshu ha Mashiach came to earth to deliver people like you who have bitterness. People with bitterness try to find something that they can vent their anger against and find release. And you found us Christians a good and soft target to vent it. It may make you happy because you are able to release that pent up anger once in a while but this would not give you lasting satisfaction. This may already be causing you problems in other areas of your life, perhaps in your marriage, in your realationship with your wife, with your parents, brothers and sisters or may be even your children, or may be you are losing your temper on your workmates or some poor people on the road or even your neighbours. If you let this bitterness grow ultimately it will cause your internal organs to fail and may cause you heart attack or cause a liver problem or even diabetes.
Before it all gets worse there is a way out from all this. Come to the Lord and Saviour and Healer. Yeshua said: “Come to Me all that are weary and heavy laden and I will give you rest.” He is the Creator of our soul, He knows how to heal and restore us.
Just like when you have a problem with your car the best mechanic is the manufacturer’s own, it is with our human bodies and souls, we have problems we go to our Loving Heavenly Father and Lord, Who is our Maker.
Point 2.
Christianity is the fundamental factor in the birthing of Modern India. Take for example the great reformers of the 18th century, Raja Ram Mohan Roy, He believed in God and accepted the Lord Jesus and he started many reforms plaguing medieval Indian society. For example he was one of the first exponents that thought of delivering the women of India or Hindu women specifically from the wrteched practice of Sati – burning alive to death on the husband’s funeral pyre. The Bible teaches that “God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.” So the Bible teaches that Man and Woman are equally created in the IMAGE of GOD. This turned the whole of Indian culture upside down on its head as it were.
Most of the top schools in India were established by Christians in Mussoorie, in Ooty, in Bangalore, in Calcutta and across the country bringing education to one and all. As a direct result India is now able to compete with western countries.
Mother Teresa dedicated her life to serving the poor of Calcutta and India on hearing the call of God. Many of the great hospitals in India were established by Christians. The inspiration is the Lord Yeshua Himself because He set about healing the sick, the blind, the lame and the lepers and even raised the dead back to life.
Well you are talking about Africa, some of the most vibrant of churches in the world are in Africa. Whilst most Africans were living in the fear of the forest spirits and enslaved by superstition and black magic, they found deliverance from the spirits of darkness through the Light of Yeshua, Who is the Light of the World.
The number of Christians has grown exponentially in Africa from 9% in 1910 to 63% today, through indigenous evangelism and perseverance. This is because the immediate benefit of spiritual liberation and emancipation and nirvana that the Spirit of the Lord Yeshua offers to every man and woman that believes in Him. The number of Christians grew from a mere 80 laks to 63 crore in Africa between 1910 and 2010.
For that matter despite an “atheistic Communist” state in China, the number of Christians in China is estimated at 120 million at the most conservative estimate. According to some estimates China might become a Christian country by 2030.
In addition South Korea used to be a pariah country in the 1950s and is now an advanced nation what with making smartphones, to cars, to ships to nuclear reactors. This coincided with the growth of Christianity from a handful of individuals to 25% of the population including Prime Ministers and Presidents of South Korean republic.
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If you really want to search for Truth, you should not hide behind a religion that is man made and that is continually changing its garb from epoch to epoch instead, you should come from behind it and seek out Truth objectively and then you will find it.
In closing and summary:
I’m sure I have not provided all the evidence and defense of Christianity against your baseless accusations and allegations. If you are jealous of Christians and Christianity, it is not that something is wrong with Christianity but because there is something lacking in you. You should look within yourself and humble yourself.
Radhe Rajan, you are gravely mistaken. Christians were persecuted from the time of Christ around 30AD all the way to the 4th century AD for over 300 years through out the Roman empire and in many other places. There is evidence of this in stone in Rome and even in Northern and Southern India. Because Christians preached a God who is above all man-made gods and goddesses that the people made for themselves and worshipped everywhere.
I suggest make this article among the front-runners in Indiafacts.Also note this Dog Jacob has brought along three other dogs to bark in unison with him……….so entertaining.They see their world of deception burning down around them and can’t decide where to run so they are here ,all barking together.LOLLLLLLLLLL.
There are big questions about the historical existence of the ” Dead Man”………….in some ways the Jesus Cult is even more violent than the other Abrahamic cult .It just dresses up better.But funny thing is, this article has thrown a stone among the beehives.Look how the foreign spies are screaming. 🙂
Which scriptures, symbols and rituals are you referring Mr. Krishna? Who are stealing? What benefits are there in your scriptures, symbols and rituals? If somebody has stolen it is your responsibility to file a case against him without further delay.