Deconstructing D D Kosambi: Numbers Don’t Lie
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Numbers
Kosambi goes on to question the veracity of the Mahabharata’s claim on the numbers:
“If a Mahabharata war had actually been fought on the scale reported, nearly five million fighting men killed each other in an 18-day battle between Delhi and Thanesar…”
From the description in the Mahabharata, we know that the Kaurava and Pandava armies had 11 and 7 akshauhinis respectively; a total of 18. From the Amarakośa we know that one akshauhini has 21,870 chariots, 21,870 elephants, 65,610 horses and 109,350 foot soldiers. This adds up to about four million deaths. As we know, only a handful of warriors survived the war. There are three points to consider in this regard:
- Number is false. The number was boosted to show the impact, or the number was wrongly estimated.
- Number is true. After all, this was the foremost war of the ancient world. Also this was the end of the dvāpara yuga and there were many people living at that time. The population problem is solved if we consider time as cyclic rather than linear. We should not extrapolate 6.2 billion backwards to 3139 BCE and say that there were only few million people in the world.
- Problem of space. Assuming four million are dead, there comes a question of space. However this is not as unrealistic as one would imagine. According to the United Nations World Urbanization Prospects report (2009 revision), the fourth largest urban agglomerations in the world is Mumbai with a population of about 20 million in an area of about 1100 sq. km (which is smaller than the modern-day district of Kurukshetra). Another instance is the National Geographic report on how seven billion people standing shoulder-to-shoulder would be accommodated in the city of Los Angeles, which has an area of about 1200 sq. km.”
It is possible that a war of such magnitude was not fought, but that hardly proves that a war was never fought. Looking at the methods of collecting information in those days, one can imagine how people might have over-estimated the size of an army. Excavations carried out in and around Kurukshetra yielded weapons from that age. This might give some evidence for the war. However, whether or not the great battle between the cousins took place is immaterial for the study of the Gītā. Kosambi merely displays his immaturity in bringing up such a trivial issue in the discussion.
Gītā and Buddhism
Kosambi says that the Bhagavad-Gītā verses 2.55-72 would not have been possible without the influence of Buddhism. There are three reasons why this statement is absolutely false:
First, while the Gītā makes many references to the Vedas and its seers – 7.8 (I am om in all the Vedas…), 8.11 (Those well-versed in the Vedas call it the eternal state…), 9.17 (I am the Ṛg-, Yajur-, and Sāma Vedas…), 10.22 (I am Sāmaveda among Vedas…), 13.4 (Seers have revealed this knowledge in many distinct ways in the sacred poems of the Vedas…), 15.15 (I know all the Vedas. I am the author of the Upaniṣads…), etc. – it makes no mention of Buddha.
Second, if at all the Gītā had taken any ideas from Buddhist teachings, the Buddhist commentators and scholars would have made noise about it. In the entire gamut of traditional Buddhist works and commentaries, no such accusation is to be found.
Third, the Buddha himself has said in the Kūṭadantasutta (of the Suttapiṭaka) that he is saying nothing different from what the ancient seers have said; further, while elucidating his philosophy, Buddha uses several Vedic and Upanishadic terms. In fact, Buddhism would not have been possible without the influence of the Vedas.
The truth is that the Bhagavad-Gītā owes much of its wisdom to the Vedas, which are clearly older than the Buddha (at least by 2,500 years). Just to get a sense of how verses 2.55-72 are drawn from the Vedas, let us look a few of those verses. BG 2.55 talks about the purging of dualities and being satisfied within the true self. Ṛgveda Saṃhitā 1.164.20 speaks about two birds sitting on the same fig tree with one eating the fruit and the other merely observing. This is a classical example used in Indian philosophy for the purging of duality – the first bird symbolizes one who is involved with the duality of the world while the second bird symbolizes one who has transcended duality.
BG 2.56 speaks about freedom from passion, anger, and fear. BG 2.60 declares that the turbulent senses forcibly distract the mind even of a wise person who is sincerely striving to control them. And RVS 7.86.6 says, “O Varuṇa, it is not by choice that we sin it is because of the existing conditions; that force leads us to intoxication, anger, gambling, and ignorance.”
BG 2.57-59 speaks about a person of steady intellect – one who is detached from the pleasant and the unpleasant, one who withdraws his senses, and one who keeps away from the cravings. RVS 10.63.12 is a prayer to the deities asking for pretty much the same things: “O deities! Destroy disease. Keep us away from thoughts that oppose selfless service. Keep away from us the malicious ones and the enemies. Grant us happiness for our well-being.”
BG 2.67 says, “When the mind is led astray by wandering senses, it carries away one’s wisdom.” RVS 10.57.1 is a prayer to Viśvedevas – “Let us not stray from the path. Let us not abandon offering soma to the fire of yajña (basically, let us not forsake our duty). Let enemies not obstruct our path.”
BG 2.69 says that the wise one is awake to the wisdom while all others are asleep to it; the wise one is asleep to sensory pleasures while all others are awake to it. RVS 10.82.7 says, “The people of the world are mostly enveloped by ignorance; they are full of pride, preoccupied with sensual comforts, and driven by selfish motives.”
Similarly, BG 2.72 speaks about the state of brahman, the supreme being, which is again a concept from the Vedas (and even Buddha invokes this).
Gītā and Brahminism
Kosambi then goes on to accuse the Gītā of being a perverse tool used by brāhmaṇas to justify their actions:
“The main conclusion is surely the following: Practically anything can be read into the Gita by a determined person, without denying the validity of a class system. THE GITA FURNISHED THE ONE SCRIPTURAL SOURCE WHICH COULD BE USED WITHOUT VIOLENCE TO ACCEPTED BRAHMIN METHODOLOGY, TO DRAW INSPIRATION AND JUSTIFICATION FOR SOCIAL ACTIONS IN SOME WAY DISAGREEABLE TO A BRANCH OF THE RULING CLASS upon whose mercy the brahmins depended at the moment. That the action was not mere personal opportunism is obvious in each of the cases cited above. It remains to show how the document achieved this unique position.”
The message of the Gītā is clear and unambiguous if studied end to end and reflected upon. Quite simply, it advocates action without attachments, self-control, purity, and tolerance. As for the class system, we shall discuss about it a little later in the article.
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Contrary to what Kosambi claims, the Gītā is often opposed to the orthodox brahminical ideas of ‘study of scriptures as the highest goal’ and ‘strict adherence to rituals.’ The Gītā denounces mindless study of scriptures and rituals. It downplays people’s obsession with the karma kāṇḍa (ritualistic) aspects of the Vedas. Varṇa plays a cameo while guṇa and karma take centre-stage. Personal development is consistently the focus while society/social action is a mere footnote. The Gītā is a highly inclusive text that tries to find harmony in diversity.
Kosambi himself accedes to the fact that Vedic rituals were the power of the brāhmaṇas. Now, if the Gītā was sung for upper classes like Kosambi claims, why are the rituals condemned? Why does Kṛṣṇa rate a yogi higher than a mere ritualist? Here are a few striking examples from the Gītā –
Those who lack proper insight
delight in the letter (and not spirit) of the Vedas;
they proclaim in flowery words:
“There is nothing else other than this!” (BG 2.42)
They are full of desires and
reaching heaven is their supreme goal.
They perform many elaborate rituals
to attain pleasure and power.
Their actions eventually result in rebirth. (BG 2.43)
Those attached to pleasure and power
are led astray by that flowery language.
They never attain the firm intellect
of a contemplative mind. (BG 2.44)
Those who work craving for worldly success
offer ritualistic worship to the gods.
Indeed, in the world of humans,
one attains material success quickly. (BG 4.12)
By just being on this path of yoga
one transcends the rewards gained
by reading the scriptures and performing rituals (BG 6.44)
A yogi is superior to an ascetic,
he is also superior to the learned,
and is far superior to a ritualist. (BG 6.46)
Continued in the next part






For Hindu bashers and other secular riff raff, no evidence will be adequate for them to change their declared positions on various aspects of so called Hinduism.It is futile to counter them with arguments, evidence etc.But it has become very essential to communicate/explain these facts to new generations of Hindus living in India and abroad.Historicity of Ramayan and Mahabharata should be considered as final as of now.Period.
Many people visit Indiafacts and a lot of them are learned and well read individuals who are able to connect the dots.But there are those who find it difficult to understand the RAJNITI behind all of this.In my small way I will try and explain especially to those confused souls who are unable to connect the dots and suffer from SAMENESS SYNDROME.
(1)Neo-Hinduism hypothesis was proposed by Paul Hacker in 1950 where he said that Hinduism was an artificial construct created by Vivekananda basically inspired by Christian Missionaries as a strategy to fight the Britishers.Prior to Vivekananda there existed no Hinduism.
(2)Neo-Hinduism states that Bhagwad-Gita was not the central text until the Western Indologists made it relevant.
(3)Karma and Seva Yoga came into existence due to Western influence and were not practiced by earlier traditons.
(4)This was later on taken up by German Indologist Wilhem Halbfast, U-Turnist Agehananda Bharati ,missionary Ursula King,Good Cop Anantanand Rambachan and further adopted as the Gospel of Truth by the Secular and Social Science Humanities Brigade.
Reference Indra’s Net Defending Hinduism’s Philosophical Unity-Rajiv Malhotra
https://books.google.co.in/books?id=M7TlAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT51&lpg=PT51&dq=founders+of+the+myth+of+neo+hinduism&source=bl&ots=hh04d1XTgK&sig=1OP9em3Nw3aJkNU7beU_ECWP6yc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwilzcXc_fHJAhXLI44KHb8iAiQQ6AEIIzAC#v=onepage&q=founders%20of%20the%20myth%20of%20neo%20hinduism&f=false
Now in the above article the author mentions about DD Kosambi questioning the Historicity of Mahabharata and Bhagvad-Gita with special reference to numerical data being fake,this is something that a FANATIC by the name of ZAKIR NAIK has been yelling in his gatherings.
This not only explains the Nexus between the Western Indologists,acamedicians,scholars and their impact on the Breaking India forces working within India be it JNU,AMU,Marxist,Secularist,Casteist,Missionaries and Islamic Fundamentalist and their usage of these concocted Mythical Theories/Jargons further leading to turmoil within our Society.
Tomorrow when Sheldon Pollock’s hypothesis of Sanskrit as a Dead language and oppressive towards Dalits,Women and Minorities is accepted as the norm and widely read by the future generations we can say goodbye to whatever is left of our DHARMA.Hence I urge Hindus to please understand the stealth modes adopted by the BREAKING INDIA forces to destroy Hinduism.
I don’t think Bhagavat Gita is the central text to hinduism, even now. Vedas remain the central text and will remain as long as this dharma exists. We still call this religion as ‘vaidika matam’ ie, vedic religion. Breaking forces are like congress, they create questions in the minds of people and create confusion about the supremacy of scriptures. Since these forces are used to believe in one book, they naturally don’t understand how hindus could follow so many books. We just need to be aware of this and recognize our classification of literature into vedas, vedengas, smriti, puranas and itihasas. Each of them have their own place in guiding us, while vedas hold the ultimate pramana.
When I mentioned Central text it was in the context of relevance,as in the Neo-Hinduism thesis states that Bhagvad-Gita was not relevant prior to the coming of Western Indologists,also many Hindu Freedom Fighters and revolutionaries like Tilak,Rishi Aurobindo and Savarkar were inspired by Bhavad-Gita which according to the Neo-Hinduism Inventors became relevant only after coming in touch with the West and Christianity which we know is False.
Bhagwaan Shree Krishna message to Arjuna of arising and performing his Kshatriya Dharma on the battlefield of Kurukshetra is considered by many as a Shruti as it was narrated by Bhagwan himself.
Eventhough I agree that Vedas have been central to our Dharma but many Hindus neither read the Vedas nor would we understand it without a proper Guru who gives an objective view of the Vedas rather than someone who might have prejudices especially due our day to day Lokachar and Vyavaharika which are in accordance to todays Kaala,Khanda and not that of the Vaidik Era.Many Hindus understand Vaidik Dharma through Ramayan,Mahabharat and Bhagvad-Gita rather than the Upanishads or even some other Smritis.
My belief is that we dont know about the many interpolations in the Vedas or any other texts that might have occured over such long periods of time and as RM says unless one reaches the Rishi State they cant be the SEERS of the Vaidik Gyan.
Vedas(SHRUTIS) are supposed to be held superior to any other text when there is a conflict but you will agree even these things are not contradictory to the LOKACHAR and VYAVAHARIKA.We have the flexibility of an Open Architecture but simultaneously we are not receptive to CHARCOAL BURNERS.
I agree. smrtis, puranas and itihasas guide the current way of living, according to kaala, desa bedhas without conflicting with vedas.